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HORRIFYING ACCOUNT BARES ACCUSER'S 'RAPE ORDEAL'
New York Post ^ | 10/10/03 | DAN MANGAN and BARRY BORTNICK

Posted on 10/10/2003 12:31:09 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:17:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

October 10, 2003 -- EAGLE, Colo. - The woman who accused NBA superstar Kobe Bryant of rape said he attacked her from behind - grabbing her around the neck with both hands, leaning her over a chair, pulling down her panties and raping her, a detective testified yesterday.


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1 posted on 10/10/2003 12:31:09 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
She said Kobe is a dog. Now let's hear what he said.
2 posted on 10/10/2003 12:34:31 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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3 posted on 10/10/2003 12:36:01 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: kattracks
"Nine young employees of Protect Condoms, based in a Denver suburb, gave out packets containing two condoms and a "presexual agreement" drafted by a lawyer that couples can sign to prove they are having consensual sex. "

Sign a legal document to have sex? Bizarre!
4 posted on 10/10/2003 12:49:09 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Israel!)
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To: kattracks
stick a fork in him - he's done
5 posted on 10/10/2003 12:52:47 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: kattracks
Nine young employees of Protect Condoms, based in a Denver suburb, gave out packets containing two condoms and a "presexual agreement" drafted by a lawyer that couples can sign to prove they are having consensual sex.

It's a sad day when you have to sign a legal contract before having sex just to prove it is consensual.
6 posted on 10/10/2003 1:06:22 AM PDT by honeygrl
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To: honeygrl
It's a sad day when you have to sign a legal contract before having sex just to prove it is consensual.

The sex helps to offset the sadness. :^)

7 posted on 10/10/2003 1:11:02 AM PDT by #3Fan
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To: kattracks
Almost in her next breath, Mackey infuriated both the judge and the prosecution by suggesting the woman's injuries were "consistent with a person who has had sex with three different men in three days."

What an incredibly stupid thing for a defense attorney to have said.
She might as well be working for the prosecution.

8 posted on 10/10/2003 1:41:41 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Revelation 911
Sorry, in America both sides get to put on a case.
9 posted on 10/10/2003 1:43:23 AM PDT by Az Joe
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To: Revelation 911
"stick a fork in him - he's done"

I dunno, I think this is gonna come down to a case of he said/she said. If I wasn't in a hurry to get to ready for work, I could probably make an analogy between this girl with Kobe and Roy with the tiger.
10 posted on 10/10/2003 1:59:52 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Prodigal Son
What an incredibly stupid thing for a defense attorney to have said.

Desperation tactic. Defense's only hope is to take shots at the victim, damage her in the minds of future jurors, try to upset her emotionally so that she appears unstable when cross examined during the trial. Looks bad for Kobe. Just a probable cause hearing and his lawyers already going scorched earth.

11 posted on 10/10/2003 2:40:18 AM PDT by jaykay ("Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide" -- James Burnham)
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To: PLMerite
He said, she said? Prosecuters rarely go on her word against his. They want witnesses and/or physical evidence. They would never go after a high profile name without enough of a case to bring him down.
12 posted on 10/10/2003 2:44:25 AM PDT by jaykay ("Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide" -- James Burnham)
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To: kattracks
To you and others: I am curious about the blood on his shirt and the swiftness with which law enforcement retrieved and tested it. Does anyone on FR have additional information about this?

Wouldn't the blood evidence be enough to offset the "he said, she said" kind of case the defense is making it to be?

Best to you,
Penny

13 posted on 10/10/2003 2:57:48 AM PDT by Penny
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To: Penny
Kobe's attorney is Pam McKay and the judge told her to basically, shut her foul little mouth.

Was having a female attorney suppose to tell people "look, I'm a woman just like the supposed victim and she's a rag in my eyes" so it must be so. Stupid women tactics but I'm sure she's being paid quite well.

14 posted on 10/10/2003 3:12:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: PLMerite
I dunno, I think this is gonna come down to a case of he said/she said.

Not with the damning physical evidence.

15 posted on 10/10/2003 3:37:33 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
Have to go back to the beginning where Kobe lied through his teeth. Oops, DNA showed up. Kobe confesses on national TV with "beloved"(?) wife by his side. Then comes the $4 mill ring. Amuse me some more!
16 posted on 10/10/2003 3:47:02 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
Was having a female attorney suppose to tell people "look, I'm a woman just like the supposed victim and she's a rag in my eyes" so it must be so.

Jury consultants say that women jurors are far less likely to react negatively if the attorney beating up on a female victim is also female.

17 posted on 10/10/2003 3:47:59 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Prodigal Son
She's not stupid. This kind of excrement has worked for her before. That's why Bryant hired her. He's getting exactly what he paid for.
18 posted on 10/10/2003 3:49:36 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: kattracks
Well, if sleaze is gonna be slung around...I wonder if there are two Pamela Mackeys who are lawyers. Click here to see why I ask.
19 posted on 10/10/2003 3:54:57 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla; All
Almost in her next breath, Mackey infuriated both the judge and the prosecution by suggesting the woman's injuries were "consistent with a person who has had sex with three different men in three days."

What the &#$*? Projection is the attribution of one's own attitudes, feelings, or suppositions to others, which leads me to wonder if Mackey has had sex with three different men in three three days and that sex resulted in injuries to her virgina.

And does this even make sense? Is a woman injured by having sex for three days in a row? I don't think so! Does Mackey think that the good folks in CO don't have sex very often? Maybe she thinks tht if they do it three days in a row they'll go blind.

20 posted on 10/10/2003 4:06:19 AM PDT by FLAUSA
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To: Revelation 911; Az Joe; PLMerite
stick a fork in him - he's done

I think Kobe Bryant is a rapist perv misfit and it looks like the evidence will prove it. I'm repulsed with his latest stunt of Bible thumping and public display of his freak show tattoos. He's desperate and it shows.
21 posted on 10/10/2003 4:07:34 AM PDT by demkicker
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To: FLAUSA
Under CO's rape shield law, it doesn't matter what she was doing. But Mackey was being clever, bringing this up to discus the alleged victim's injuries, not her sex life. That's the excuse, anyway. I've always said you can judge a client by his lawyer. When Bryant hired this chick, my opinion of him took a further nosedive.
22 posted on 10/10/2003 4:09:18 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
From your link: The 48-year-old conservative Democrat has been accused of making $36,000 a year in 1993 and 1994 from Anderson-Columbia and failing to report the income to the Internal Revenue Service. He and his wife, Pamela, are accused of conspiring to hide the income, using a business called Mackey and Associates.

Geeze mewzilla, if this is the same Pamela Mackey, this is HUGE news and deserves its own post! Wonder how we can find out?
23 posted on 10/10/2003 4:11:19 AM PDT by demkicker
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To: demkicker
Maybe the press will call her office and ask. I really hope they do.
24 posted on 10/10/2003 4:13:24 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: demkicker
And if anyone knows of a Bryant ping list, feel free to ping it. If it's the same woman, I wouldn't mind seeing Ms. Mackey get a taste of her own medicine.
25 posted on 10/10/2003 4:14:55 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
Me too. I need to get going, but why don't you send the link to Hannity and Rush, or even Drudge? I think you're onto something!
26 posted on 10/10/2003 4:16:26 AM PDT by demkicker
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To: kattracks
leaning her over a chair, pulling down her panties and raping her,

Was she wearing a dress or were her pants already off?

27 posted on 10/10/2003 4:16:37 AM PDT by fso301
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To: jaykay; All
Desperation tactic. Defense's only hope is to take shots at the victim, damage her in the minds of future jurors, try to upset her emotionally so that she appears unstable

After sleeping on this, I am now wondering this morning where the three days thing came from. Why not three guys in two days of four guys in one day?

I am guessing that either this is somehow related to her previous hospitalization for suicide, or some kind of rumor they got some of the backstabbers in town to spread.

There is an older Jane's Addiction song, "Three days, three lovers in three ways..."

I'm just free associating trying to guess where the three guys in three days thing came from. It's not relevant, in my opinion, even if it was true and the three days were the three days before she met Bryant. But I'm wondering where it's coming from.

28 posted on 10/10/2003 4:29:49 AM PDT by Yeti
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To: demkicker
Elsewhere at that same link it refers to her as his "now estranged wife."

There should be some bio on her somewhere on the web.

29 posted on 10/10/2003 4:33:03 AM PDT by Yeti
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Come on, guys...it's all about sex....it's just sex.. </sarcasm>
30 posted on 10/10/2003 4:34:20 AM PDT by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! Heather Nauert is all that is woman!)
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To: Az Joe
Sorry, in America both sides get to put on a case.

sure do - Im not discounting that - thats just my opinion - and Kobe's gonna have a real hard time 'splainin away vaginal lacerations and the choke hold -

I havent seen her on talk shows or trotted out trying to play this up - shes behaved like a victim and has held the same story from the minute it happened.

....and from that tiny picture weve seen, she's credible

31 posted on 10/10/2003 4:44:19 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Yeti
I'm just free associating trying to guess where the three guys in three days thing came from. It's not relevant, in my opinion, even if it was true and the three days were the three days before she met Bryant. But I'm wondering where it's coming from.

This question is for the legal experts on this board...Can the victim sue Kobe's attorneys for slander if they cannot prove she had sex with three guys in three consecutive days?

32 posted on 10/10/2003 4:45:01 AM PDT by John123 (The Governator is gonna do some butt kicking in Sacramento. Coming soon to a theater nearby you.)
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To: kattracks
Bryant is going to prison. This evidence is just too damning.
33 posted on 10/10/2003 4:50:33 AM PDT by NittanyLion (Character Counts)
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To: Yeti
I thought the "three men in three days" statement was very sleazy. She clearly did that to make the victim look like a "slut" even though she framed it as an alternative explanation for the injuries. Why not ask if recent intercourse could have led to the injuries as opposed to three men/three days? Consensual sex doesn't normally lead to that number of lacerations, nor does it typically cause bleeding. Her blood was on her shirt....I would say that's very damning.
34 posted on 10/10/2003 4:57:36 AM PDT by drjulie
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To: kattracks
.........Mackey infuriated both the judge and the prosecution by suggesting the woman's injuries were "consistent with a person who has had sex with three different men in three days."

I'm wandering if Ms Mackey is basing this observation on personal experience?

35 posted on 10/10/2003 5:07:50 AM PDT by varon
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To: Prodigal Son
What an incredibly stupid thing for a defense attorney to have said. She might as well be working for the prosecution.

Agreed. When I read that, my reflex was revulsion and the strong desire to slap her silly. The stupid twerp.

36 posted on 10/10/2003 5:14:32 AM PDT by najida (He who is without baggage can cast the first Samsonite.)
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To: dennisw
She said Kobe is a dog. Now let's hear what he said.

Woof, woof?

37 posted on 10/10/2003 5:16:04 AM PDT by varon
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To: kattracks
"He began kissing her, kissing her mouth, which she agreed," Winters said. "She stated she was fine with that."

The girl probably thought Kobi was interested in a long term relationship...not a one night stand. She just wanted to make out a little...NOT go all the way. Happens all the time.

sw

38 posted on 10/10/2003 5:20:35 AM PDT by spectre (SW)
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To: spectre
The girl probably thought Kobi was interested in a long term relationship...not a one night stand. She just wanted to make out a little...NOT go all the way. Happens all the time.

Yep, Girls think differently than guys.
While the guy is thinking "sex, Sex, SEX!"
The girl is planning cuddles by the fire and picking out china patterns.

39 posted on 10/10/2003 5:24:24 AM PDT by najida (He who is without baggage can cast the first Samsonite.)
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To: PLMerite
I dunno, I think this is gonna come down to a case of he said/she said.

Medical forensic evidence notwithstanding.

40 posted on 10/10/2003 5:28:19 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ()
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To: najida
Yes!! Bump!

sw

41 posted on 10/10/2003 5:28:23 AM PDT by spectre (SW)
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To: dennisw
Reminds me of the lyrics in Atomic Dog :

Why must I be like that ..... why must I chase the cat ... nuthin' but the dog in me .....
42 posted on 10/10/2003 5:29:03 AM PDT by Rainmist
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To: fso301
Was she wearing a dress or were her pants already off?

She was wearing a dress.

43 posted on 10/10/2003 5:32:08 AM PDT by EllaMinnow (Life is too important to be taken seriously.)
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To: demkicker
NBC News certainly didn't help Kobe with a report that he's pretty much been socially unstable for most of his adult life.
44 posted on 10/10/2003 5:33:32 AM PDT by rintense
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To: Prodigal Son
What an incredibly stupid thing for a defense attorney to have said. She might as well be working for the prosecution.

That was my reaction, to this statement and the blatant multiple uses of the victim's name.

45 posted on 10/10/2003 5:33:39 AM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: Rainmist
Was also referring to Kobe doing it doggy style. Snoop doggy dog.
46 posted on 10/10/2003 5:38:45 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: FLAUSA
I believe that the girl was part of the whole deal...She went along and then got scared...In my book both of them are bums, and this whole thing should be thrown out... However Kobe is gonna' pay big time he isn't in LALA land now he's in Colorado....His goose is cooked!!!!
47 posted on 10/10/2003 5:39:22 AM PDT by Old Phone Man
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To: claudiustg
While in the beauty shop yesterday, I read Esquire article on Bob Greene and the story about how he got fired from his newspaper position. After about 9 years, this woman came forward to blackmail Greene about their affair, it was apalling. That pales in comparison with this story. It is really amazing that Clinton continued to have positive ratings after what he having oral sex in the WH, while conducting plans in Bosnia and being investigated for sexual harassment. Go figure
48 posted on 10/10/2003 5:45:29 AM PDT by mel
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To: honeygrl
The minister was there when my wife and I signed ours. He didn't give us any condoms though. (smile)
49 posted on 10/10/2003 5:47:01 AM PDT by TomHarkinIsNotFromIowa (Foe Hammer!)
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To: PLMerite
"I dunno, I think this is gonna come down to a case of he said/she said."

I don't think so. This is a small rural communitee. Only the full timers are going to be on the jury, not the tourist elite.
50 posted on 10/10/2003 5:51:42 AM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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