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Northern Calif. mourns Schwarzenegger win
AP | 10/12/03 | RACHEL KONRAD

Posted on 10/12/2003 10:27:06 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 10/12/2003 10:59:20 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) ? Arnold Schwarzenegger is taking office with a clear mandate from millions of people in Southern California's suburbs and the state's vast interior, where 70 percent of voters favored recalling Gov. Gray Davis.

But liberals are mourning along the state's northern coast, particularly San Francisco, where 80 percent voted against the recall. In the city that nurtured beatniks in the '50s and hippies in the '60s, Schwarzenegger came in a distant second to Democratic Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante among the replacement candidates.

Some residents joke darkly about forming a separate state, with San Francisco as the capital. Others are surrendering to reality, moving from denial to acceptance of the Republican actor's impending move to Sacramento.

Oscar Grande is still "in shock" over the results of Tuesday's recall election, but the environmental activist takes comfort knowing his friends and neighbors feel equally disturbed by the Republican actor's lopsided victory.

"This is still San Francisco, and we're like our own little island from the rest of California," said the 30-year-old organizer at an environmental justice organization in the city's Mission district. "The folks in the suburbs and the Central Valley were so pumped about him ? it really blew me away."

Southern Californians voted overwhelmingly to oust the despised Davis and replace him with Schwarzenegger. Nearly three out of four voters in Orange County supported the recall, and Schwarzenegger received 64 percent of the replacement vote, soundly thumping Bustamante's 17 percent.

In San Diego County, home of Republican Rep. Darrell SSA, who spent nearly $2 million to launch the recall, 66 percent of voters favored getting rid of Davis.

"I feel upbeat for once," said Oceanside resident Rex Wait, 45, one of the 59 percent of county voters who picked Schwarzenegger.

Schwarzenegger won decisively not only in the Southern California suburbs that gave Richard Nixon his start in politics, but across most of inland California, where the actor spent much of his two-month campaign.

The recall had the largest support, 77 percent, in Stutter and Lasses counties northeast of Sacramento, where Schwarzenegger struck a chord with people who wanted to oust the governor.

"He just seems like he's genuine, honest and wants to clean it up," said P.J. Wick, a 62-year-old housewife from Yuma City in Stutter County, where she said farmers have struggled with taxes, water problems and higher energy costs.

California's interior has been growing more conservative for at least a decade. But Schwarzenegger's support in sparsely populated farming communities provided a stunning example of the long-term geopolitical shift, said John J. Pitney Jr., a professor of government at Claremont McKenna College.

Instead of the traditional north-south divide that characterized the Golden State throughout the 20th century, lines are increasingly drawn between older communities along the coast, with expensive housing and environmental activism, and inland communities with vast subdivisions and socially conservative agricultural regions.

"The pattern emerging is that the closer you are to salt water, the more likely you are to vote Democratic," Pitney said. "Maybe it has something to do with the ideological values of communities that have popped up along the coast, as well as concern for the environment."

The trend may bode well for Republicans in future elections as development comes to California's remaining rural spaces.

Placer County, which goes from east of Sacramento to the Nevada line, added more jobs than any county in the nation in 2001, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and it had the fastest-growing county population in California in 2002, according to the U.S. Census. Nearly 72 percent of Placer voters favored the recall, and 63 percent chose Schwarzenegger.

The trend troubles David Orleans, a 32-year-old insurance underwriter who moved to San Francisco five years ago in part because of the liberalism championed by Democratic Mayor Willie Brown and U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein.

"The answer to the current political clash in California is simple," Orleans joked. "Coastal California from L.A. northward should secede from the rest of the state."

Nearly seven out of 10 voters opposed the recall in Marin County, across the Golden Gate Bridge from San Francisco. Bustamante received 48 percent of the vote, compared to 32 percent for Schwarzenegger.

Marin County author Anne Lamott, whose novels often depict loss, says she cried herself to sleep after Tuesday night's election. But she woke on Wednesday and renewed her liberal values.

"I will keep registering voters and taking care of the poor and sending money to the ACLU, and marching for peace, in the hope and belief that we can get our country back from the rich oil men who have sold our country out," Lamott said.

Mark Malone, a computer marketer from Santa Cruz County, where 65 percent of voters opposed the recall, accepted the election and is trying to be optimistic.

"Part of me says the old guard isn't having the best go at it, so maybe we should try and get a new perspective on things," Malone said. "I'm totally conflicted on the whole thing."

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Associated Press Writers Brian Melley in Sacramento, Kim Curtis in San Francisco, Elliot Spagat in San Diego, and Martha Mendoza in Santa Cruz contributed to this report. /blockquote>



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: angrydems; schwarzenegger; trends
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To: kattracks
Hve you ever noticed how all the "environmentalists" live in the middle of cities?

Not only is a city the biggest environmental disaster in existence, but these people have no first hand experience about the real environment, no clue about conservation, and think that wildlife is the animals on a farm.

On the other hand, they firmly believe they should be in charge of making all decisions about how everyone who lives in the "country" should conduct their lives.

21 posted on 10/12/2003 11:04:22 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: AgThorn
***The rest of California would love it if the wacko extremist welfare-centric San Francisco area WOULD form a separate state***

Don't stop there. The Bay Area ought to form its own independent nation.
22 posted on 10/12/2003 11:06:06 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Author Anne Lamott is seen at home in Fairfax, Calif., with her cat Jeanie on Tuesday, Sept. 23, 2003. Lamott says she cried herself to sleep, puppy at her side, after Arnold Schwarzenegger's stunning election victory.

"sob, sob, sob, if only they all thought like ME, sob, sob, sob! And willya look at the saintly expression on my liberal face?"

23 posted on 10/12/2003 11:09:18 AM PDT by NYpeanut (gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, "Why did you lie to me?")
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To: Psycho_Bunny
The book's already been written and it was pretty funny - and pathetically stupid: Ecotopia.

I remember that one -- they use good looking women as contacts to use sex to convert outsiders, like the hero of the story! I agree -- funny but not like the author intended.

24 posted on 10/12/2003 11:09:25 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: A CA Guy
The recent midterm elections were a surprise to many pundits. The fact that the GOP regained the Senate in an off year was remarkable event and violated common politcal wisdom. Conservatism is the logical direction to go, given the abject failures of leftist policies througout the globe. This fact is puntuated by the onslaught of islamic terrorism, an improving economy, the increasing stability of Iraq, and a leftist defeat in CA.

The conservative citizen will stiffen the spine of even the most invertabrate GOP rep.

regards.
25 posted on 10/12/2003 11:09:35 AM PDT by glaux
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To: NYpeanut
Good grief! I love my cat too, but NO WAY would allow him on the table........
With regard to the win in California, I am in Butte County, we overwemingly voted to oust Davis, I wonder if too much is being made out of the fact that Arnold won. He is hardly conservative, now if McClintock had won that would be the story.
People were just tired of Davis and his pandering, my reasons for ousting him was not only the budget mess, but more than that, his anti-business bills, anti-family bills, the tripling of the car tax, the raisig of so called sin tax, just tax, nevermind cutting........Horrors!
26 posted on 10/12/2003 11:20:51 AM PDT by Burlem
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To: kattracks
The San Francisco Bay area, and the east bay area in particular has become nothing more than a sprawling service industry dependent anomaly of US industry as a whole. Black Angus, next to Barnes & Noble, next to Waterbed Warehose, next to Discount Tires next to the Law Offices of So and So.... and it just goes on and on. Once you get over the Sierra Nevada things start to change and you will glimpse the real American. A hard working individual who actually grows something, mines something, or kills something for the good of the community.
27 posted on 10/12/2003 11:21:16 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: kstewskis; EggsAckley
That was uncalled for. San Diego is quite conservative, yes. Calling Eggs a dolt was wrong.
28 posted on 10/12/2003 11:25:51 AM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: kstewskis
My apologies. I miss read your post. :(
29 posted on 10/12/2003 11:26:52 AM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: kattracks; Admin Moderator
Ummm... I hesitate to point fingers here, however I feel obligated to point out that there are two counties listed that are incorrectly named. It should read "Sutter" county and "Lassen" county, NOT 'Stutter' and 'Lasses'. Feh!

That being said, I have always believed that there can be made a valid argument for dividing California into three separate States, consisting of Northern, Central, and Southern partitions. Of course, now I might have to restrict the 'Central' section to only the Bay Area, and divide the Sacramento Valley into the other two divisions.

Oh, and San Francisco and the Bay Area are NOT bloody 'Northern California'! Ye gods! Was this article outsourced to India?

30 posted on 10/12/2003 11:29:18 AM PDT by Utilizer
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To: annyokie; EggsAckley
thanks for rereading my post, and your apology.
31 posted on 10/12/2003 11:38:54 AM PDT by kstewskis
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To: kstewskis
You're very welcome. Sorry, again.
32 posted on 10/12/2003 11:45:18 AM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: AgThorn
Oh Lord, where do I sign!!! The rest of California would love it if the wacko extremist welfare-centric San Francisco area WOULD form a separate state ... that would cease a tremendous drain, a loud "sucking sound" that leaches from the rest of the state year round!!

Even better...they form a separate country. And they can take the illegal aliens with them too and let them get drivers licenses and free educations and nobody will complain.

33 posted on 10/12/2003 11:46:27 AM PDT by Allegra (If conservatives are "to the right," then liberals are "to the wrong.")
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34 posted on 10/12/2003 12:02:29 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: kattracks
"He just seems like he's genuine, honest and wants to clean it up," said P.J. Wick, a 62-year-old housewife from Yuma City in Stutter County

I can't believe this made it by the editors...is this a slam against Sutter County?

35 posted on 10/12/2003 12:37:00 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: kstewskis
Democrats near seawater. what bunk. I live half a mile from the pacific here in Ventura, CA, a county that thumped Davis on the arse and went heavily for Tom & Arnold....

it's not a sea water thing....it's a bay area post-LSD insane asylum.
36 posted on 10/12/2003 12:50:46 PM PDT by LieFreeGov
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To: NYpeanut
Author Anne Lamott is seen at home in Fairfax, Calif., with her cat Jeanie on Tuesday, Sept. 23, 2003.

A clinically liberal middle-aged woman living alone with her cat in Fairfax. Damn if that doesn't reinforce every stereotype about these idiots. Hell, it should be the basis of a DSM-IV diagnostic entry.

37 posted on 10/12/2003 12:51:28 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: kattracks
"This is still San Francisco, and we're like our own little island from the rest of California,"

Lets just hope it stays that way! Sadly enough the rest of the "coherent" people of the great state have to support your fanatical ideologue though financial support through state taxes.

38 posted on 10/12/2003 1:02:42 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: kattracks
Some residents joke darkly about forming a separate state, with San Francisco as the capital.

Please, oh please, oh please!!

39 posted on 10/12/2003 1:19:35 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: kattracks
"The pattern emerging is that the closer you are to salt water, the more likely you are to vote Democratic,"

They're devolving back into amphibians.

40 posted on 10/12/2003 1:21:57 PM PDT by nosofar
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