EXORCIST CONFIRMED PERIOD DURING WHICH POPE LEO XIII FORESAW A DEMONIC INVASION

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[narses]

Ping.

[ninenot]

Kinda wish that the "seer" at Medjugorje had not been brought up--credibility, you know.

Otherwise interesting and plausible. Does being father to 5 teenaged girls earn 'victim' status?

[narses]

It can. Wait until they are teens, then ask again. If you need to.

[narses]

Ah, they ARE teens. And you need to ask? :)

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

You know who I thought of when I read about victim souls surrounded by demons? Terri Schiavo.

[Salvation]

**Terri Schiavo.**

Definitely a victim soul as well as a captive soul.

[Aquinasfan]

Otherwise interesting and plausible. Does being father to 5 teenaged girls earn 'victim' status?

I have two girls, 8 and 5. I guess I'll enjoy them while I can 8-)

[Revelation 911]

"According to the constant confessions of the demons, it is the Blessed Virgin who leads the suffering souls against the demons and forces them to battle with the victim souls until they are overpowered," said the exorcist,

.....and as for you unwashed prots........dont bother invoking the name of Christ Jesus in faith (sarcasm)

Mark 6:7 Then Jesus went around teaching from village to village. Calling the Twelve to him, he sent them out two by two and gave them authority over evil spirits. 8 These were his instructions: "Take nothing for the journey except a staff--no bread, no bag, no money in your belts. 9 Wear sandals but not an extra tunic. 10 Whenever you enter a house, stay there until you leave that town. 11 And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them." 12 They went out and preached that people should repent. 13 They drove out many demons and anointed many sick people with oil and healed them.

Luke 4:40When the sun was setting, the people brought to Jesus all who had various kinds of sickness, and laying his hands on each one, he healed them. 41Moreover, demons came out of many people, shouting, "You are the Son of God!" But he rebuked them and would not allow them to speak, because they knew he was the Christ.[1] 42At daybreak Jesus went out to a solitary place. The people were looking for him and when they came to where he was, they tried to keep him from leaving them.

I missed the part that imparts Mary with intercessory powers

[xzins]

I didn't see it there either.

There is some powerful scripture, however, about the exercise of power "in Jesus' name."

[dsc]

"I have two girls, 8 and 5. I guess I'll enjoy them while I can 8-)"

Don't let a single second go wasted.

[dsc]

"I missed the part that imparts Mary with intercessory powers"

Try reading "And Friend of God's is a Friend of Mine," by Patrick Madrid.

[dsc]

"I didn't see it there either."

Could you show me the part where it says, "Words of Jesus imparted to the Apostles and passed down by word of mouth are not really words of Jesus"?

[xzins]

I don't understand what you're asking me.

Can you expand on it just a bit. (Sincere question.)

[xzins]

I don't understand what you're asking me.

Can you expand on it just a bit. (Sincere question.)

[dsc]

It is clear that not every word Jesus spoke is recorded in the Gospels. He spent lots of time with the Apostles, did lots of teaching.

Where is it written that "Everything of substance that Jesus said while he was among us is recorded in the scripture?"

[xzins]

As a matter of fact, the gospel of John credits Jesus with having done much more than recorded. John 21:25 Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.

It is a reasonable assumption that Jesus said things while engaged in the "many other things" as mentioned above.

However, since any purported sayings are not included in the "inspired scripture," they are subject to dispute. And....they would never be considered inspired scripture.

[dsc]

"However, since any purported sayings are not included in the "inspired scripture,"

So, the Holy Spirit can protect the Scripture through all its translations, but can't ensure the correct transmission of Tradition?

"they are subject to dispute. And....they would never be considered inspired scripture."

I think all Christians agree that the Scriptures are definitive where they speak, and that whatever contradicts them must be rejected.

But when there's Something that Jesus told Peter, and Peter taught it to others, and they taught it to others, I don't find it reasonable to reject it out of hand simply because it isn't recorded in the scripture.

In addition, I believe in the mystical. I don't believe that God stopped speaking to us when the last word of the New Testament was penned.

And finally, I have personal experience of Our Lady's intercession. Perhaps a small miracle, and not dramatic, but a miracle nonetheless even as a small diamond is still a diamond.

Would Jesus not love his mother? And would Mary not love God's children? If she asked Him to have mercy on us, would He turn a deaf ear?

[xzins]

D, it is certainly true that Jesus would love his mother. And that He still does. That is the crux of the mariology doctrine, in terms of evidence that supports the Roman Catholic position. The only other possible biblical "allusions" to Mary are the Revelation passage about the woman giving birth to the man child and John's statement about the "chosen lady" in his epistles.

But, I've always gotten that far and had to confess that anything beyond that would be conjecture/assumption/theory.

Therefore, anything that is passed from mouth to mouth by those who came to Christ under the ministry of John, Peter, etc., should be weighed carefully.

As you say, it must not contradict inspired scripture.

But, also, it must not "go unreasonably beyond" inspired scripture.

[Kit]

Great response, dsc.

How the Sola Scriptura crowd can reject every well-founded Marian tradition but the Virgin Birth, and then rationalize their rejection of transubstantiation baffles me.

How can you have it both ways? (For Frank Sheed's explanation of the doctrine of transubstatiation: http://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/eucha4.htm)