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Will The Passion Movie Have Political As Well As Spiritual Consequences?
Vanity | 2-20-2004 | John Fields

Posted on 02/20/2004 9:30:22 AM PST by jonboy

Several months back we began hearing the drumbeat of disapproval from the media and Hollywood elites about Mel Gibson's soon to be released The Passion of the Christ. He had a TERRIBLE time finding a distributor, he had to self-finance the movie, his original title, simply, The Passion was denied him because Miramax declared that they had the rights to that title. He was told that the movie would be a flop and that religious movies don't make money. As support for this claim, they mentioned the terrible controversy surrounding another Jesus movie, The Last Temptation of Christ. More than twenty-five thousand people protested against it, death threats were supposedly received, and to top it off, it only took in a little more than eight million dollars. Of course, it couldn't have had anything to do with the fact that it was an anti-religious allegorical interpretation of a Christ who was weak, implied gay, and was shown on the cross fantasizing about having sex with Mary Magdalene. The Judas character also being depicted as a sympathetic character.

It was an absolutely blasphemous hateful hit piece. The Devil himself couldn't have written a worse script. Yet, the Hollywood elites had no problem with this movie, the Anti-defamation League had no problem with this movie, the leftist elites had no problem with this movie. This movie was them personified, holding to a form of Jesus (if at all) that humanized Him and made Him one of the sinners rather than showing a Jesus who would hold them accountable and culpable for sin.

The usual characters couldn't say enough good things about this piece of trash. It was gutsy, it was artsy, it was inspiring, yada, yada, yada. The actors also were the usual liberal elites, Harvey Keitel, William Dafoe, Barbara Hershey, and David Bowie among others. Despite the fact that the movie earned a miserable eight million dollars, Martin Scorcese was nominated for Best Director at the Oscars. Barbara Hershey was nominated for Best Supporting Actress and Peter Gabriel for Best Original Score at the Golden Globes. How many people are holding their breath about The Passion of the Christ winning critical acclaim from this group?

Obviously Hollywood and their ilk don't get it. I've never seen a phenomenon like is occurring with this movie. The forces of evil are arrayed against it in spectacular fashion, hoping to stop it from making its way to the screen. When the predictions of failure didn't work then came the efforts at intimidation. Hit pieces from the New York Times became a regular thing, claims from all sides about anti-Semitism abounded (many to most from people who had never seen the movie), Mel Gibson's father was suddenly of interest (why, he didn't make the movie), people who never batted an eye about Hollywood violence before were now suddenly "concerned" about the effects of this "violent movie" upon our children. The hypocrisy and double standards have been staggering and extremely transparent. All we need to remember is this. This is us against them. No I don't mean us against the Jews. We are obviously ALL culpable in His death. He died for the combined sins of every person. I put Him there, you Him there, we all did. Real Christians understand this. Many Jews understand this as well. The movie has gotten very favorable reviews from a number of prominent Jewish people. Notably, they are almost all of a conservative ilk.

This movie is being challenged because of its attempted faithfulness to the script and because it is now perceived that it will be widely seen. It has been very faithful to the Gospels. THAT IS THE PROBLEM! The detractors including many liberal, politically correct and noodle spined "theologians" claim that the movie didn't happen according to what Mel has said. Let me state the obvious, IF THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST IS ANTI-SEMITIC THE GOSPELS ARE AS WELL. This is an attack on a literal rather than liberal interpretation of the Bible, it is an attack on Christians who are walking the walk and talking the talk. It isn't Judeaism vs. Christianity nearly so much as it is Liberalism vs. Christianity. These things are risky to the ones doing the attacking.

Can you feel the tension in the air? It's a good tension, a polarizing tension. It will help more clearly define the left and the right, the evil and the good for what they are. Are the left aware? Some are. The Tsunami is quickly building and is approaching. I feel certain that the Christian community is more stoked to see this movie than any in my memory. People LONG for a spiritual experience, they long to see what the suffering Christ did for them, even as they are frightened of what they will see. People who have screened it have sat in mute, stunned silence after the movie or are sobbing out loud.

The screens, which were initially going to be on the short side of 2,000, are now going to be as many as 4,000 (which would be a record for ANY film let alone an independent one). This movie, I believe will set the all time record for box-office take. The current one day total for sales is just under $44 million, weekend is just under $115 million (both the Spiderman movie). The all time record is Titanic, with just under $601 million dollars total at the box office.

Poor Mel, his detractors said, he'll be out so much money, between $25-$50 million by the time you count distribution costs. I predict that once the dust settles Mel will be a billionaire from this venture. Not only will this movie be seen by Christians, but detractors and curiosity seekers will see it as well. Plus the HUGE Catholic audience worldwide will want to see it. Also consider how many people will be seeing this movie multiple times to send a message. We haven't even looked at DVDs and videos which will be purchased later for evangelism tools and for personal collections. I wouldn't think of not owning this movie. Also consider the other merchandising.

I expect, at least initially, for the left to try to explain away Mel and The Passion's success and to make excuses for why they've done so well. Eventually, I think dissent will start to melt in the same way that it was stifled after 911. People will not want to be seen to be against this movie, I expect the media to start asking people what they think about the movie. The movie will become the story for a long time. I believe it will define our times culturally. Hollywood, who has until now despised this movie, will be under HUGE pressure to critically recognize this movie, yet would be forced to be going against everything it holds dear in order to do so. Hollywood loves their liberal agenda, but they love our dollars even more.

And what will happen politically for the candidates for various offices? The candidates will be asked "Have you seen the movie?" and "What did you think about the movie?" I expect our side to do well with this. Our President will have seen and will have embraced the movie. At the same time I expect the Democratic candidates to stumble on this as they attempt to both embrace the movie and distance themselves from it at the same time. The left is anti to only marginally religious while the independents and conservatives are MUCH MORE SO. I see one side benefiting from this, our side. Whereas a massive patriotic fervor swept our country after 911, I expect this phenomenon will be an unparalleled religious fervor. Just as 911 changed the world for a significant period of time and silenced the left, I believe there will be a post Passion period that very well may last until the election in which the left is effectively silenced, offering only grudging praise, as though through a mouth squeezed tight from lemons. The problem is though, they can't afford to be silenced. At the same time, moderate to conservative voters will be energized for a candidate by something far deeper than just politics. Although I think this film is MUCH BIGGER than politics, I think it will very much define this election. And again, that can only help one side, ours.


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Just this Christians view of how this will play out. If any other things come to mind, please mention them
1 posted on 02/20/2004 9:30:22 AM PST by jonboy
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To: jonboy
Please bump this article if you will, I had intended only to preview and then post it more around quitting time. Oh well, I posted it by accident.
2 posted on 02/20/2004 9:34:15 AM PST by jonboy
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To: jonboy
Hollywood will come under severe financial pressure due to this movie. Families will want to watch this movie many times almost ritualistically. It will replace new movies and DVD rentals (for a significant market segment) because it will be watched so many times. Hollywood will be in turmoil while they try to imitate it and compete for our attention. Movie trailers and television commercials will come under its sway first, while movie studios and television series will struggle to adapt. Foreign films with subtitles will also flourish for a while.
3 posted on 02/20/2004 9:45:36 AM PST by reed_inthe_wind (Vienna said the middlemen come from Ger, Nether,Belg, S Af, Jap,Dub, Mal,USA,Rus,Chin,and Pak.)
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To: jonboy
It has already had a profound affect on my thinking
about torture.
4 posted on 02/20/2004 9:58:07 AM PST by latrans (free martha)
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To: jonboy
Great read except for this:

Also consider the other merchandising.

Somehow I don't see Burger King putting something from this movie into the "Kid' Meal" bag...

5 posted on 02/20/2004 9:58:41 AM PST by 2banana
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To: 2banana
Well, maybe I didn't clarify that enough. Posters, pictures, replicas of the nails used, scuptures of him on the cross, and other things of that sort are what I meant. I too can't see the Burger King toy "tortured Jesus on a cross".
6 posted on 02/20/2004 10:03:26 AM PST by jonboy
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To: reed_inthe_wind
I agree. Family movies will become much more prevalent (or at least Hollywood's somewhat twisted attempts at them).
7 posted on 02/20/2004 10:07:51 AM PST by jonboy
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To: jonboy
Posters, pictures, replicas of the nails used, scuptures of him on the cross

Somehow I think the copyrights on those things expired a long time ago. Anyone could merchandise it but will it have the "official" Passion emblem?

8 posted on 02/20/2004 10:08:20 AM PST by 2banana
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To: jonboy
I'm curious. Was there any kind of flap over the films "King of Kings" or "The Greatest Story Ever Told"?
9 posted on 02/20/2004 10:18:48 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty
I surely don't recall that being the case.
10 posted on 02/20/2004 10:21:23 AM PST by jonboy
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To: jonboy
I too can't see the Burger King toy "tortured Jesus on a cross".

You'll have to "supersize" first.

Sorry, but on a serious thread you got me cracking up with that comment.

My big concern, with all the left has failed to do to stop this movie and the hype surrounding it, is that they may resort to voilence in the end to keep people from seeing the movie.

We are discussing a polarizing event, but it's even more than Christianity vs Liberalism . It is very much Good vs Evil. The threat that the message of Christ's sacrifice poses to them has driven them into a panic. I really believe they are prepared to do anything to stop that message from spreading.

11 posted on 02/20/2004 10:33:30 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: jonboy
Too bad many of the people who NEED to see this movie will be too busy lined up around the courthouse in leather pants and comfortable shoes. . .
12 posted on 02/20/2004 10:37:06 AM PST by jtminton (2Timothy 4:2)
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To: Caipirabob
I hate to say that your point has crossed my mind. But since all of the libs have divested themselves of their millions to give it to the poor, and have willingly disarmed due to gun control, and are so against violence as evidenced by their anti-war stances, MAYBE we'll be better off in that exchange than we think. LOL.
13 posted on 02/20/2004 10:40:45 AM PST by jonboy
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To: jonboy
I was just a kid, but I din't remember any uproar then.
14 posted on 02/20/2004 11:00:40 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: 2banana
Somehow I don't see Burger King putting something from this movie into the "Kid' Meal" bag...
True... but the associated coffee table book is already going into a third reprint.
 
'The Passion' book sells out

15 posted on 02/20/2004 11:02:26 AM PST by AnnaZ ("And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God..." ~Romans 8:28a~)
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To: jonboy
I'll have to respectfully disagree with your opinion on Last Temptation. I didn't like it but I didn't find it anti-religious at all, we do know that Satan wanted Him desperately so the film could have been an interesting "what if" exploration.
16 posted on 02/20/2004 11:08:14 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Earth first! We can mine the other planets later.)
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To: jonboy; Caipirabob
The left may be disarmed, but to the rabid Islamist, a sold-out screening may present a tempting target.
17 posted on 02/20/2004 11:08:57 AM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Buy American, the Nation you save may be your own)
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To: jonboy
Excellent summation of events. The poltical stuff in the end of it is unimportant to me, but you laid out quite well many of my thoughts, rants and predictions.
 
I'm fascinated by the obvious spiritual dynamic at work here.
 
 
 
 

18 posted on 02/20/2004 11:11:36 AM PST by AnnaZ ("And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God..." ~Romans 8:28a~)
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To: jonboy
Family movies will become much more prevalent...

...for about three months.
19 posted on 02/20/2004 11:13:25 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: Squawk 8888
I never saw the movie, didn't have to. I didn't want the images from that garbage movie stuck in my brain. I read about a lot of the content. Jesus and either John or Judas (or both) shared a kiss on the mouth in this film (remember John the apostle that Jesus loved). This was another sick attempt to take the Lord out of context and make Him appear gay. They showed Him as weak and indecisive, He was anything but. They showed Him having sex with Mary Magdalene in His mind. They could just as easily have shown Him standing side by side with her. They intended to do just what they did, blaspheme His good and just name.
20 posted on 02/20/2004 11:25:51 AM PST by jonboy
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To: jonboy
This movie, I believe will set the all time record for box-office take.

No way. I hope it does well, but it's not going to top Titanic, or Lord of the Rings or even those American Pie movies, IMO.

While I agree there is a double standard in the reception of Gibson's film as opposed to Scorsese's, remember that it's been a rather long time now since The Last Temptation of Christ was released. Also, I don't think the basic temptation premise was all that objectionable in Scorsese's film (since Christ does reject the temptation and dies on the cross). It was the other stuff, like Jesus making and carrying crosses for the Romans, and saying stuff like "I'm the prince of blasphemy", etc that was annoying to me. However, the crucifixion was quite well done, particularly the Via Dolorosa (in the style of a Hyeronomous Bosch painting with spooky music in the background).

Two things bother me about the Gibson film. 1.) The language thing. I see no point in the gimmicky use of languages. 2.) The point of the story. Will the movie relate Christ's death to salvation, or will it merely be a document as to the brutality of crucifixion as a form of punishment?

I will be seeing it in ay case.

21 posted on 02/20/2004 11:33:05 AM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: AnnaZ
I have that book! There's a Catholic edition of the book printed by TAN Books. It's really good.
22 posted on 02/20/2004 11:36:18 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: AnnaZ
As I said in the article, the political considerations and impact of the movie are certainly secondary to the societal implications. I would respectfully suggest that the political implications become more important, although certainly not up there with the spiritual impact. Think of all of the spiritual causes that have been set back and maligned because of politics? Abortion, homosexuality, taking the Ten Commandments down, lack of prayer in school, the proposal to take In God We Trust off of our money and One Nation Under God out of our pledge, and other things like these have entered into the political realm from the spiritual. What will out of control politicians and bureaucrats take away next. While God should always come first, having political blinders on (which I'm not suggesting you do) can cause us to fall into a spiritual ditch.
23 posted on 02/20/2004 11:36:30 AM PST by jonboy
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To: Sans-Culotte
1.) The language thing. I see no point in the gimmicky use of languages.
Gimmicky? LOL... it was one of the riskiest aspects of Gibson's vision, and it's historical, and I commend him for it. I, for one, am definitely tired of "hearing" Jesus speak with an English accent.

24 posted on 02/20/2004 11:39:39 AM PST by AnnaZ ("And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God..." ~Romans 8:28a~)
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To: AnnaZ
Yes, but it is written in English, and translated to these languages, which are spoken by English-speaking actors not even fluent in them. Remember that Gibson did not even want to use subtitles originally. I believe Gibson is probably making some sort of "statement" about how he preferred the mass in latin. If he had left out the subtitles, I would avoid the film for that reason alone.
25 posted on 02/20/2004 11:44:15 AM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: AnnaZ
I'm also quite glad that He did that (except for having to read the sub-titles). I think it will bring a lot more realism into it.
26 posted on 02/20/2004 11:45:27 AM PST by jonboy
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To: Sans-Culotte
Given the number of screens this is going to be on it will definitely be a top 10 (which means beating American Pie) grossling film, probably top 5 (which means beating any single installment of LOTR), and could be #1. There's HUGE prospective audience for this movie, by some counts theres around 150 million Christians in this country if half of them see the movie once (no multi-viewings, no non-Christians in attendance) it'll tie Titanic. If only a third go (same conditions) it's wedge inbetween ET and Star Wars for the number 3 spot.

I don't think the language thing is gimicky at all. The movie is in the same languages the Bible was originally written in, I wouldn't have a problem with somebody doing the Iliad in Latin (actually I think it would be cool), any fan of opera knows you've got a lot more things telling a story than the words and there's nothing wrong with telling the story in a language the audience doesn't know. I'd rather it wasn't subtitled actually, subtitles draw the eye and brain away from the images rhythm and inflection which are really the part that tells a story.

From what I've seen the message of the movie very much is "this is what Christ went through for your salvation".
27 posted on 02/20/2004 11:47:31 AM PST by discostu (but this one has 11)
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To: discostu
The thing that is the real "story" here is the fact that a movie about Christ's crucifixion is "controversial" at all. The Last Temptation, Corpus Christi, et al deserve controversy because they took a controversial approach from the get-go. Someone mentioned on another thread that King of Kings and The Greatest Story Ever Told did not cause such a ruckus back in the 60's. Sadly, they would today.
28 posted on 02/20/2004 11:56:55 AM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: Sans-Culotte
I see nothing wrong with it being controversial, religion IS a controversial subject that's why you're not supposed to discuss it among friends. But what those against it are objecting to is absolutely hilarious. The fact that so many people are so aghast that anyone would make a pro-religion movie is funny (at least from where I sit), the other side has crossed the line from controversial to horrified in a way that should embarass them.
29 posted on 02/20/2004 12:02:13 PM PST by discostu (but this one has 11)
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To: AnnaZ
"I'm fascinated by the obvious spiritual dynamic at work here."

I am too Anna, and I'm anxious to see what will happen in the next few weeks.

30 posted on 02/20/2004 12:39:07 PM PST by SpookBrat
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To: discostu
The audience for this movie will be made up, in large part, by the ultra-conservative denominations, some of which consider movies a form of sin. It would only barely surprise me to find horse-drawn buggies parked in front of the theater.
31 posted on 02/20/2004 1:43:37 PM PST by oldfart ("All governments and all civilizations fall... eventually. Our government is not immune.)
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To: discostu
Iliad in Latin

I'd rather see the Illiad (and the Odyssey) in Greek, than in Latin. Maybe that's just me...

;'}

32 posted on 02/20/2004 1:53:03 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Chief Engineer, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemens' Club)
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To: jonboy
What Hollywood elites have been voicing a drumbeat of disapproval over this film? I haven't seen anyone from Hollywood even mention it except Mel Gibson.
33 posted on 02/20/2004 1:58:10 PM PST by CalKat
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To: oldfart
Wow how incredibly insulting of the devout Christians of the world.
34 posted on 02/20/2004 2:13:32 PM PST by discostu (but this one has 11)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Damn, I knew I was getting that one wrong but I just couldn't navigate it to right. Oh well, there's always someone on FR that knows better.
35 posted on 02/20/2004 2:15:06 PM PST by discostu (but this one has 11)
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My predictions:

The movie will have a 40 million dollar opening weekend , than go on to make about 150 million in domestic release. Sorry, I would like more, but unless a movie gets REPEAT business from the 16-25 crowd it will not do huge box office. This is a very violent movie, people will not want to go through it a second time.

There will be incidents, graffiti and destruction at synagogues, etc NOT done by the people who saw the movie but by those secretive losers who need to get a thrill being part of the news. Muslim extremists will try to use to the film to harm Jews and smear Christians.

There will be a major change FOR THE BETTER in the relationship of Jews and Christians throughout the world now that this has all out in the open. I really believe this.

Poor Mel Gibson, now a serious respected profitable director he will have to make more serious respectable profitable films to satisfy his fans. Lethal Weapon 5 is no longer an option for him.

Abe Foxman will try to prevent it, but The ADL will go the way of the NAACP and ACLU, periphery players in the political landscape, not taken too seriously anymore.
36 posted on 02/20/2004 2:17:56 PM PST by catonsville
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To: jonboy
it, death threats were supposedly received, and to top it off, it only took in a little more than eight million dollars. Of course, it couldn't have had anything to do with the fact that it was an anti-religious allegorical interpretation of a Christ who was weak, implied gay

I'm not defending LAST TEMPTATION, which is loaded with theological and historical inaccuracies(but they were "ok" because it was Marty's vision/sarcasm off), but Jesus is definitely not gay in the film, implied or otherwise.

37 posted on 02/20/2004 2:56:55 PM PST by Clintons a commie
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To: jonboy
Nice piece, jonboy!

I had the honor of seeing a pre-release screening of "The Passion" back in January. Wow! Very well done with great use of flashbacks of Jesus' ministry and readily apparent spiritual warfare throughout. Christians won't notice the subtitles because they already know the story, but it maybe a bit tiresome for those that don't. The end left me wanting unless, of course, Mel is planning a sequel (let's say "Resurrection of The Christ"). There were a couple Jewish Christians in the audience who found some fault, but as someone else said in the post-movie discussion, "The truth is the truth."
38 posted on 02/20/2004 3:10:58 PM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: jonboy
It's just a movie.

Remember Last Temptation of Christ? I thought it was a pretty good flick the first time I saw it, but when I watched it with my kids 12 years later I was appalled at how boring it was. I was shocked at how dull the process of watching that turd of a movie was. Remember when it first came out? You would think that the world was ending and Jesus Christ himself had returned to judge the good and the wicked. 12 years later the whole thing is forgotten and any jackass like me can stroll into a Blockbuster and rent it off a shelf.

Passion of Christ? Probably it's interesting because of the blood. That's all I keep hearing about, and that's the only thing Gibson has ever been able to make. If it's about the blood, then it's going to be dull.

Tell the story about Jesus. Tell how he suffered. But don't pretend that Gibson is able to deliver to us real-life violence. Don't let some movie maker tell us that this is "really what happened". These guys have higher opinions of themselves than Jesus Christ had of himself. After he went back to heaven that is.

I'm going to be right there with the rest of the moviegoing public, munching on my popcorn while Jesus is up there on the cross. Don't for a second let any of these ridiculous reviews imply that any movie can deliver into our homes the violence or the "passion" of such an event. This movie will be just like any other. It will live with me for about 5 weeks and when I'm watching it with my grandkids 12 years from now I'll lie on the floor and beg to be run over because it is so boring, stupid and dull.

And don't get me started on Gibson's old man. Mel should do the whole world a favor and run that guy over with his car.

OK I've said enough. Please don't let this thing get blown out of proportion.
39 posted on 02/20/2004 3:27:14 PM PST by Borderline44
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To: Clintons a commie
Then what, BI? Unless they edited the part out of the script which said so I KNOW that the offending section of the movie had Jesus kissing EITHER John or Judas on the mouth. I acknowledge that it could have been edited out due to HEAVY criticism from mainstream Christians (probably in the DVD though). But it was there at one point.
40 posted on 02/20/2004 3:52:58 PM PST by jonboy
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To: oldfart
The audience will be MUCH more diverse than those in horse drawn carriages. LOL!
41 posted on 02/20/2004 3:55:25 PM PST by jonboy
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To: jonboy
One impact I think might be big is that this movie was distributed independently, and will be probably be a blockbuster. In our small town, over 2 weeks of showings have already been sold out to area churches. That's the money in the hands of theater owners 3 weeks before the movie even arrives. You can't say no to that kind of cash flow. Mel Gibson has demonstrated the way for other independent film makers and distributers to get around the existing Hollywood stranglehold, and proved that the money, and lots of it, is out there. This trickle will become a flood, bypassing the Hollywood elite. Their days are numbered.
42 posted on 02/20/2004 4:04:03 PM PST by Red Boots
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To: Borderline44
ZOT!
43 posted on 02/20/2004 4:08:18 PM PST by Oystir
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To: CalKat
In all honesty, I couldn't tell you aside from all of the people that Gibson approached and was told thanks but no thanks. I've read countless stories about this movie and don't recall much more in some cases than impressions. But do you think he'll be winning any Oscars unless he gets a few modern day miracles going for him? The left HATES this movie and there's no lefter bunch of people than in Hollywood.
44 posted on 02/20/2004 4:13:07 PM PST by jonboy
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To: Oystir
yeah, i'm a troll... sheesh...
45 posted on 02/20/2004 4:14:27 PM PST by Borderline44
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To: jonboy
Then what, BI? Unless they edited the part out of the script which said so I KNOW that the offending section of the movie had Jesus kissing EITHER John or Judas on the mouth

There is a scene where John the Baptist kisses Jesus on the lips, but it certainly isn't to imply that either Jesus or John are gay or bi. The sequence is right before Jesus goes into the wilderness for forty days, and John emotionally hugs and kisses him before warning him that the devil will try to deceive Him in the desert.

We need to be accurate when we protest things that are an attack on our faith. Saying that Jesus was portrayed as gay in LAST TEMPTATION is not accurate. There are plenty of things wrong in that film, but that isn't one of them.

46 posted on 02/20/2004 6:15:25 PM PST by Clintons a commie
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To: reed_inthe_wind
Sorry, but I think you are way way off base.

The film will do very very well - 2800 theaters and plenty of tickets sold. It will draw a slightly older crowd to the movies, but it won't have much traction with 13-25 year olds who are the biggest moviegoers. That being said, it will still probably set a record for an opening day and weekend for February.

Hollywood won't undergo severe financial pressure because of the film, though they probably should. The diet will still be for largely meritless junky films for the forseeable future. The Passion cost only 25 million to make and will probably make 8-10x that in theaters alone, and it will do very well on home video. The lesson for Hollywood is to make cheaper films, not to make more moral films. The suits will miss both of those lessons, though, for sure.

Families watching the movie ritualistically? No - it's too violent for that, sorry. It will have no or only marginal impact on the rental market, which is huge. Few filmmakers will imitate this film - done entirely in an ancient language with subtitles, it won't be imitated much.

Indeed, you will see several weeks of denial over the film's success. 'Experts' saying that the film is doing well only because religious fanatics are going in droves (of course, movies where degenerates go in droves are seen as sheik and dandy!).

When all the money is counted, I expect this film to make around $ 200-250 million or so internationally, good but it won't be good enough to be the #1 film of the year (the early best bet for that will be Spider-Man 2, opening July 4th weekend - remember that Spider-Man 1 was the movie to reach 100 million the fastest [3 days], to reach $ 200 million the fastest [9 days], and to reach $ 300 million the fastest [22 days] - all domestic figures, not international figures. I expect SM2 to beat all those records, somehow.)

The Passion won't do nearly as well, though will present a much better return on investment to the producers. It will probably get some folks thinking more seriously about their religion, which is a good thing.
47 posted on 02/20/2004 6:36:35 PM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: jonboy
PLease don't use the terms Christian and Catholic in contradistinction. The terms are Protestant and Catholic. Thanks. We are ALL Christians.
48 posted on 02/20/2004 7:19:50 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: Clintons a commie
I knew it was Judas or John (although I had the wrong John). If you think that a Hollywood production of the sort that Last Temptation of Christ was had an innocent kiss on the mouth that wasn't intimating something else I've got a sea-side resort in Arizona to sell you. LOL.
49 posted on 02/20/2004 7:38:35 PM PST by jonboy
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To: The Cuban
I'm sorry if I offended you it wasn't intended, I'm just a Christian. I don't live my faith to protest anyone. I mentioned Catholics being especially interested in this film because the Director and main actor are as well, plus it being based, at least in part, on a book by a Catholic nun. Those aspects will certainly have a greater tendency to attract Catholics than non-Catholics. As to us all being Christians, I believe that all Christians are believers but not all believers are Christians. To me the Christian is the one who follows God's lead as best they can once they have been washed in the blood of our Lord. Those who haven't come into contact with that blood can call themselves anything they want, but it won't mean that they are saved.
50 posted on 02/20/2004 7:48:12 PM PST by jonboy
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