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A Freeper Review of The Passion of Christ
Vanity | 2/21/04 | John Fields

Posted on 02/21/2004 3:50:43 PM PST by jonboy

I'm not sure where to start. I'm a fellow Freeper who also happens to be minister. I was invited today to see a screening of the Passion of the Christ at our local theater. I have been fascinated, and you might even be able to say obsessed with this movie ever since I heard about it a few months ago and first saw the trailer (I cried every time I saw it).

Given that I have watched and listened to several interviews and read several news stories about this movie I was as prepared as I thought I could be to watch it. I HAVE NEVER BEEN THROUGH ANYTHING LIKE THIS MOVIE! I sobbed, I throbbed, my Kleenex became a fairly useless mess that occupied the hand not tightly gripping the seat. IT WAS HARD TO WATCH. The cruelty was overwhelming, but approximated what we have a glimpse from in scripture. The violence and horror of what was done to Him nearly overwhelming, but not gratuitous as some have claimed.

As to the charges of anti-semitism, I can understand how a Jew who does not believe that Jesus is their Messiah would be frightened by this film. However, it was NOT anti-semitic. I could just as easily be moved to be against Italians for what the Romans did as I could be against the Jews. If one were inspired to hate the perpetrators if this event, they would be anti-Christian, anti-Semitic, anti-Arab, anti-Japanese, and anti-__________ (fill in your own blanks). I was filled with the grim overwhelming knowledge of my own guilt as much as anything else. As I watched Him writhing in pain, the ribs virtually exposed from the beating that He had taken, as I watched His shoulder ripped out of socket as they stretched his hand to make it to the pre-drilled nail hole, as I watched the blood flowing and the breath ripped from His body from the pain, one thing entered into my mind above all else. I PUT HIM THERE! He could have come down, He could have called in excess of ten-thousand angels. He could have stopped that horrible mockery and evil in its tracks by coming down off of that cross, healing His own wounds, and then saying go to it boys as He releases the angels to take care of business. BUT HE DIDN'T. I am in awe.

I admit that I has moments when I felt like ripping the Jewish and Roman perpetrators apart. How dare they laugh in the face of such agony! How dare they spit on Him! How dare they stand in pompous, arrogant, self-righteous judgment of the King of Kings and Lord of Lords (how dare MYSELF go on sinning after what He did for me)! But as the High Priest is walking away from making fun and mocking. He hears Jesus softly say, taking up precious breath, "Father forgive them, they don't know what they are doing." The High Priest pauses in uncomfortable silence, then walks on. Later, after Jesus has died and the earthquake has damaged the temple and they are very aware that they have done something terribly wrong the High Priest is seen crying out and holding his face in grief and horror.

This movie was about love and forgiveness and about our sin and what God and His Son did together about that sin. It is about the horrible things that men do to their fellow men which can still be forgiven if they will but repent. Some of the Jews were depraved and some were compassionate. Some of the Romans were depraved, and some of them were inclined towards compassion. Anti-Jewish? NO WAY! Besides, the early church was exlusively Jewish. The movie is not about Mel Gibson having some kind of point to prove to anyone, let alone the Jews. It was Mel's passion, a labor of love. Will it profit Him? Unbelievably! Did he do it for the money, not a chance.

Were there any liberties taken with the scripture? Maybe a few. Poetic/artistic license was taken to a degree. There were some scenes with Judas that were extra Biblical, but imaginable. Surprisingly, he was shown as a somewhat sympathetic character, which is something I've felt to a degree for him. I doubt that he was a completely depraved man, he just wanted to speed things along so that Jesus would have to rise to the throne and have to take His true place. When he realized he had been horribly mis-lead he admitted guilt but then went out and killed himself. There was a scene in which the unrepentant thief had his eyes pecked out by a crow. I thought that didn't gel well with the theme of forgiveness and should have been left out. It seemed to represent Divine retribution since the thief had just been blaspheming Jesus. But the cross wasn't about retribution, that will come later at Judgment, it was about mercy.

As to this movie being appropriate for children? That's a hard call. I think it would be best if conscientous parents screened it for themselves first. It is hard enough for mature adults to stomach. However, there is something to be said for exposing young tender hearts to the truth of what He did. Maybe knowing what He did at a younger age would lead to more mature Christians later. Again, it's an individual call.

Is this movie Catholic? Yes and no. Those who see the relationship between Jesus and Mary who are Catholic will likely see Mary as divine. Those of us who believe that Mary was a mere woman who was blessed enough to have been chosen to be the mother of the Christ will see the relationship between a mother and her Son. THIS MOVIE IS FOR ALL!!! I can wholeheartedly recommend this movie to others for personal devotion or to touch the hearts of those who are lost. I believe very much that it will be a culturally defining movie and that it will break most IF NOT ALL of the box office records both nationally and world-wide. The Lord will not be silenced. I truly feel He has spoken through this movie. Maybe its His way of saying WAKE UP before He comes again. If it is, this Christian is awake (wiping away tears).


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To: Ohioan from Florida
I have heard that analogy and it is a good one.
101 posted on 02/21/2004 6:01:41 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: TheGeezer
Do you ever ask anyone for prayer? It's the same thing. God bless.

Yeah, but Mary is physically dead. How can one ask a dead person to pray for them?

102 posted on 02/21/2004 6:03:30 PM PST by madison10
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To: jonboy
bump
103 posted on 02/21/2004 6:04:15 PM PST by N8VTXNinWV
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Now try to explain the triune God. ; *)

OK if I bring my wife in off the bench as a pinch hitter? :-}

104 posted on 02/21/2004 6:04:55 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jonboy; Northern Yankee; barbcsr; Uncle Jaque; DallasMike; karenbarinka; dakine; lonevoice; ...
Ping! An awesome early review by fellow FReeper and minister, jonboy, who has just seen The Passion of the Christ.

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105 posted on 02/21/2004 6:06:34 PM PST by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: jwalsh07
LOL !!!
106 posted on 02/21/2004 6:06:47 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: madison10
Physically dead, yes. But her immortal soul lives on. Besides, Mary's body was taken into heaven at her death. As the Orthodox Church teaches, she fell asleep and Jesus called her away into eternal joy. Both the Catholic and Orthodox Church refer to this as the Dormition of Mary or the Assumption of Mary into heaven. The mother of God is very much alive in heaven.

Regards.
107 posted on 02/21/2004 6:07:34 PM PST by TheGeezer (If only I had skin as thick as Ann Coulter, and but half her intelligence...)
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To: madison10
Catholics do not believe that Mary died. She was taken up to heaven body and soul. Her bones were never found. The apostles were very close to her, after Jesus died and rose and ascended to Heaven. When it was at the end of Mary's days on earth, her body disappeared. There have never been any remains of Mary found to be buried. And I guarantee that the apostles would have buried her according to Jewish law.
108 posted on 02/21/2004 6:08:25 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: formerDem; Dr. Scarpetta
Ping for a FReeper review of The Passion of the Christ
109 posted on 02/21/2004 6:11:26 PM PST by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
So are you saying that Mary was taken up into Heaven like Enoch or Elijah? I still don't get why she is an intercessor when Jesus would do just fine.
110 posted on 02/21/2004 6:13:24 PM PST by madison10
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To: VOA
Tomorrow on PAX at 8:00 pm central, will be a special on the making of this movie.

Reposted and "bolded" for publicity!     Excellent idea VOA!
111 posted on 02/21/2004 6:13:28 PM PST by GirlShortstop (..)
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To: jonboy
Thank you for your review of the movie! I have been looking forward to it for close to a year. I expect that I will be mortified by watching it, but I imagine ever more humbled by His sacrifice for me.
112 posted on 02/21/2004 6:14:57 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: captain_dave
"What I'm looking forward to is hearing what Aramaic sounds like."

Me too, actually. I wonder if the authentic pronounciation can be known for certain, today? Anyway, I feel a duty to support this film by going to see it, but I am nervous about watching the sustained violence.

113 posted on 02/21/2004 6:15:38 PM PST by Irene Adler
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To: LisaMalia
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PAX = Channel 30, owned by NBC

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114 posted on 02/21/2004 6:17:33 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: jonboy; Ohioan from Florida
The review is excellent. Not sure if I can handle "being there."

Ohioan, I'm not trying to be mean, I'm truly curious.
115 posted on 02/21/2004 6:19:31 PM PST by madison10
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To: madison10
Yes, similar to Enoch and Elijah. Jesus is a fine intercessor. Nothing wrong with Him. But we are also taught that Mary is the Mother of the Church , and as a mother she holds a special place in Christ's heart. She is another intercessor that we are allowed to ask for help. She is not a direct line, to be sure, but she has more weight with Jesus than if I ask my friends to pray for me, because of her special and unique relationship to her Son.
116 posted on 02/21/2004 6:20:15 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: madison10
I still don't get why she is an intercessor when Jesus would do just fine.

Well, she is an intercessor but there is only one Mediator and that is the Lord Jesus. Only Jesus had both divine and human nature.

Have you ever asked anybody to pray for you or somebody you loved?

117 posted on 02/21/2004 6:22:21 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: madison10
I myself have asked the same questions you're asking. I understand you mean no harm. I also have questions about the faith of the Jewish people, since they are our elders in the faith. Questions can be very good! And FWIW, I know I'm not some final authority on this. I'm sure there are others who can answer as well or better than I.
118 posted on 02/21/2004 6:24:28 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: jwalsh07
Sure, I've asked people at church to pray, but they have skin on. ;)

I guess I'm wondering this: if you can ask Mary to be an intercessor, why not King David who held a special place in God's heart? Where does it say Mary can help pray for us? I can see why it would be comforting to believe she would.
119 posted on 02/21/2004 6:27:06 PM PST by madison10
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To: jwalsh07
Well, she is an intercessor but there is only one Mediator and that is the Lord Jesus. Only Jesus had both divine and human nature.

Mediator. That's the word! TY!

120 posted on 02/21/2004 6:27:21 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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