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To: padfoot_lover
I first sent this to you as a FReepmail, and you took me to task for not posting it for all to see. So here:

Do you pray, "Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen."?

If so, and you don't consider Mary to be divine, then you are practicing necromancy, forbidden by God. So, is she divine or not? There is no middle ground, though some may try to slide around this by playing with words.

99 posted on 02/21/2004 6:00:15 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: savedbygrace; padfoot_lover
Do you pray, "Hail Mary, full of grace...."
If so, and you don't consider Mary to be divine...


sbg, are you opposed to understanding Catholicism?   The truth of the matter can be found with very little effort.  FReegards.
"And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed [art] thou among women, and blessed [is] the fruit of thy womb. And whence [is] this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy. And blessed [is] she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord. And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. For He hath regarded the low estate of His handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. For He that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy [is] His name." - Luke 1:41-49
Catholics properly venerate the Mother of God.
"All generations will call me blessed": "The Church's devotion to the Blessed Virgin is intrinsic to Christian worship."515  The Church rightly honors "the Blessed Virgin with special devotion. From the most ancient times the Blessed Virgin has been honored with the title of 'Mother of God,' to whose protection the faithful fly in all their dangers and needs. . . . This very special devotion . . . differs essentially from the adoration which is given to the incarnate Word and equally to the Father and the Holy Spirit, and greatly fosters this adoration."516  The liturgical feasts dedicated to the Mother of God and Marian prayer, such as the rosary, an "epitome of the whole Gospel," express this devotion to the Virgin Mary.517  Catholic Catechism
"There are not many people in the United States who hate the Catholic Church, but thousands of people who hate what they mistakenly believe the Catholic Church to be."
Bishop Fulton J. Sheen


121 posted on 02/21/2004 6:29:45 PM PST by GirlShortstop (..)
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To: savedbygrace
Do you pray, "Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen."?

I pray that prayer every day, in imitation of the Angel Gabriel and St. Elizabeth. I guess they were necromancers too. ;)

124 posted on 02/21/2004 6:31:12 PM PST by Clintons a commie
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To: savedbygrace
The saints are alive in Heaven with Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and one of those saints is His mother, Mary. She is not dead; anyone who is a Christian lives forever with Our Lord. Thanks for posting your message in public. :-)
146 posted on 02/21/2004 6:51:15 PM PST by padfoot_lover
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