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To: Land of the Irish
" . . . the fanatical Foxman, who considers it vaguely anti-Semitic even to mention other atrocities in the same sentence as the Holocaust . . ."

The real reason Foxman is outraged is not because the Ukrainian famine is some sort of "natural" disaster, but because of a "subtext" that Foxman knows, that Gibson knows, and that Conquest most likely knows but avoids mentioning.

It is that those in charge of implementing Lenin's policies in the Ukraine were disproportionately Jewish -- the commissars of the Soviet political police, later known as the NKVD and supsequently the KGB.

"He doesn’t begin to understand the difference between dying in a famine and people being cremated solely for what they are," Foxman said.

No, what Gibson doesn't understand is that Jewish involvement in implementing Lenin's and Stalin's brutal policies is the 600-pound gorilla in the living room -- the one that no one is allowed to mention propter metum Judeaorum. Gibson needs to be taught obedience to the agenda, and Foxman is just the one to do it. There was a time when smear campaigns would be conducted in secret. But people like Foxman are so sure of their iron grip on the culture of this country that they now parade their double standard in public and expect unquestioning compliance.

6 posted on 02/25/2004 6:30:44 AM PST by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen
It is that those in charge of implementing Lenin's policies in the Ukraine were disproportionately Jewish -- the commissars of the Soviet political police, later known as the NKVD and supsequently the KGB.

The one thing that I'd disagree with is that Stalin should be given the credit. Stalin, who should hell's favorite Pop-Tart by now.

8 posted on 02/25/2004 3:03:28 PM PST by xJones
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen
Thank you Goetz!!! You are so right, & clearly old enough & intelligent enough to have done your research...The unfortunate Judaeist love affair with Bolshevist/Communist movements such as that in Russia and later in "Republican" Spain, coupled with their disproportional dominance in the "liberal" film & media industries has for some 50 years or more harped ceaselessly on the "Holocaust"..Any rational examination of the truth in that matter is tarred with the brush of "Anti-semitism", today's most condemnatory epithet, which is tantamount to being made a pariah for life!..No rational individual suggests that the Nazis were other than barbaric & murderous to the "Jews" of Europe, but no totalitarian regime is nice to its opponents, whether Rome, Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin or Saddam Hussein!
The suggestion now made that Mel Gibson should "distance himself from his father" because of that man's questioning of the absolute truth of the Holocaust is the most vicious suggestion I have heard of yet!
No doubt some reader of this will accuse me of recist-anti-semitism, relying on the emotionalism of such a charge to silence my right to comment on such matters, but that will not alter anything..Voices being raised will not always be silenced, & questions raised will sooner or later demand answers.
Congratulations to you, sir, for having the courage to expose the Truth!!!
10 posted on 02/28/2004 4:05:10 PM PST by Luetzow
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