Posted on 06/10/2004 10:17:30 AM PDT by NYer
In my diocese, there are three churches I know of that have reverent masses so they would be okay. However, these masses do not qualify because of the immodest dress of many women who attend there, so they get dropped because of that reason. That leaves me with the Traditional Latin Mass as the only acceptable choice.
I thought your point on that matter has always been perfectly clear: the abuses of the NO Mass have got to stop, and such abuses are not going on at Latin Masses.
Too bad that so many prefer the irreverent abuses. Unfortunately, there will always be those folks.
But did you see how the article says that both the Latin and NO masses are celebrated with clean traditional reverence there? How lucky for the people of that parish.
I like that it's available, but it should be available in more parishes.
"St. John Cantius"
Wow. Wow. WOW! That Statue of Christ receiving the Penitent Sinner brought tears to my eyes.
Where did these guys come from, and how have they avoided wreckovation by the sodomites?
Check out this thread before you attend their liturgy. There is a link where you can step through the entire Byzantine service - beautifully presented.
I'm not a very good person to ask about what's "allowed". I will say that often what's allowed and what's right can be at odds with each other. Although I feel your pain, I no longer attend NO-masses so I no longer have this problem.
I do know that some of what I saw going on that is allowed (or seems to be allowed) scandalized me. Everything from soccer moms passing out species in a glass that looks like it was bought at Wal Mart to gay monks using the homily time for fund raising.
I went to the church yesterday to find out mass times. It was closed, but I peeked in the window. Beautiful classic looking stained glass and mosaics. As you know they use icons as opposed to relics.
I have a few problems out of the box however; No kneelers and little or no veneration of Mary to name a few. Also I'm not Mid Eastern or Eastern European. Being that I'm part Italian, Roman Catholicism in my family most likely traces back to it's original foundation.
It is Catholic though, and I will check it out.
In regard to irreverent masses, here is where I would draw the line: if you KNOW based on your Catholic training/spiritual formation, that the masses in a particular church are irreverent or invalid, you certainly hav no business attending them, as would be willingly participating in blasphemy, which is a mortal sin. since we can all read and write, no one can really be excused on account of "ignorance of the law". But, I will go ya one further: let's say your parish has such irreverent masses. Should you support the parish financially? MO! If you do, you are at best a fool, and at worst, complicitous in the blashphemy being purportrated. To dontribute (or still worse to raise funds) for such a parish, makes you as guilty as the apostate priest who is conducting the irreverence. And I will guarantee that the priest is not just and unwitting fool - such irreverence is connived at, and quite well planned!
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