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Cardinal Ratzinger Discovers America
The Remnant Newspaper ^ | December 15 | John Rao

Posted on 12/12/2004 8:54:32 AM PST by Land of the Irish

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To: Land of the Irish

Dear LotI,

The pope only excommunicates Catholics.

Thus, Henry VIII was a Catholic monarch, at least for most of his reign.

Tell me, please, how he promoted the Social Reign of Christ the King.


sitetest


121 posted on 12/12/2004 8:06:02 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
Thus, Henry VIII was a Catholic monarch, at least for most of his reign.

And Judas was an apostle of Christ for most of Christ's public life; and Lucifer was one of God's angels. What's your point?

122 posted on 12/12/2004 8:16:05 PM PST by Land of the Irish (Tradidi quod et accepi)
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To: Clemenza
"Monarchists belong in this country as much as Islamists do..."

Think ahead carefully so as to avoid painting yourself into a corner. You would run the risk of violating your own principles if you were to indicate, in any way whatsoever, that a monarchist has no place in your society.

It would be a simple matter to isolate the hypocracy and to dispatch it.

124 posted on 12/12/2004 8:39:12 PM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: pascendi

Please explain.


125 posted on 12/12/2004 8:41:34 PM PST by Clemenza (Gabba Gabba Hey!)
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To: kjvail
"The central dogma of the Incarnation likewise governed the social perceptions of medieval people. They were preconditioned by the dogma of the Incarnation, and the philosophy of "realism" which underlies it, to find the ideal within the material, the beautiful within the ugly, the moral and peaceful in the midst of violence and disorder."

Beautiful.

126 posted on 12/12/2004 8:42:02 PM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: Clemenza
"Please explain."

I'll let you do it for me.

Tell me why a monarchist has no place in American society.

127 posted on 12/12/2004 8:43:04 PM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: pascendi

A person has a right to believe in Prester John, the Easter Bunny or an absolute monarchy. Its when they think it is an ideal form of government to replace our constitutional Republic that I think they go too far.


128 posted on 12/12/2004 8:45:18 PM PST by Clemenza (Gabba Gabba Hey!)
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To: Clemenza
"Its when they think it is an ideal form of government to replace our constitutional Republic that I think they go too far."

But what about freedom of religion, thought and expression, of speech?

130 posted on 12/12/2004 8:49:46 PM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: Great Prophet Zarquon
"But give them political authority or take them the slightest bit seriously? Fuhgeddaboudit!"

You would deny them political posts? Wouldn't this be an act of discrimination, and would it not therefore violate your own Americanist principles?

131 posted on 12/12/2004 8:51:51 PM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: Land of the Irish

"And Judas was an apostle of Christ for most of Christ's public life; and Lucifer was one of God's angels. What's your point?"

C'mon, LotI, pay attention to the conversation.

;-)


134 posted on 12/12/2004 9:02:28 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: royalcello
And now we see a prominent Cardinal claiming that the American system is preferable to the old European ideal of a Catholic state, a position which Leo XIII condemned.

Not only that, but Ratzinger is the Prefect of Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (Congregation formerly known as the Holy Office). Not a good sign.

135 posted on 12/12/2004 9:30:07 PM PST by ELS
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To: royalcello
"Interesting discussion here if you're still around."

. . . and one I've had before, it seems, in a galaxy far, far away.

It is useless to argue with the supporters of democracy as it currently exists in the U.S. because they are intentionally blind. They are also basically ignorant of history.

Your time would be better spent talking to a brick wall; you know what they say about trying to teach a pig to dance.

136 posted on 12/12/2004 10:18:24 PM PST by Goetz_von_Berlichingen (Vivat Rex!)
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To: Great Prophet Zarquon
"You are perfectly free to think that Rocky J. Squirrel died for your sins. You are NOT free to become Secretary of the Interior after making such an absurd opinion public."

Says who?

137 posted on 12/12/2004 10:22:26 PM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: Great Prophet Zarquon
You seem to have a bit of trouble making up your mind which way to go with this.

I'm going to grab a cup of coffee while you sort this out. brb.

140 posted on 12/12/2004 10:31:12 PM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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