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Sister Lucia, last remaining witness of Fatima apparitions, dies at 97
AFP ^ | Feb. 13, 2005

Posted on 02/13/2005 2:27:18 PM PST by Unam Sanctam

LISBON (AFP) - Sister Lucia, the last survivor of the three shepherd children to whom the Virgin Mary is said to have made a series of apparitions in 1917, has died of old age, state television RTP reported. She was 97.

She had lived in virtual isolation since 1948 in an old convent in the central Portuguese city of Coimbra that houses the order of the Carmelita Sisters where she dedicated her life to prayer and meditation.

Named Lucia de Jesus dos Santos when she was born on March 22, 1907, in recent years she suffered from blindness and deafness.

She died at the convent, the station said citing a spokeswoman for the order.

Sister Lucia was just ten when she and her two cousins, Francisco Marto and his sister Jacinta, said they saw the Virgin for the first time in a field near the town of Fatima on May 13, 1917.

Lucia, the only one of the three children who was able to hear what the Virgin said, wrote two memoirs about the series of apparitions which occured throughout 1917.

The apparitions made Fatima one of Catholicism's most revered sites and thousands of faithful flock to a shrine which has been built on the site where the apparitions are said to have taken place each year.

Pope John Paul (news - web sites) II attributes to Our Lady of Fatima his survival of an assassination attempt in 1981 and has since then visited the shrine several times.

Sister Lucia last spoke in public in May 2000 when the pope travelled to Fatima to beatify Francisco and Jacinta.


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1 posted on 02/13/2005 2:27:20 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam

Was the third revelation ever made public?


2 posted on 02/13/2005 2:29:07 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: RightWhale

Yes:

http://www.ewtn.com/library/CURIA/CDFATIMA.HTM


3 posted on 02/13/2005 2:33:09 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: RightWhale; Unam Sanctam

Discussed here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1342429/posts


4 posted on 02/13/2005 2:33:33 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (How do you spell dynasty? P-A-T-R-I-O-T-S!)
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To: NYer

Would you mind pinging, please?


5 posted on 02/13/2005 2:33:46 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam

She is finally home. May she rest in peace in God's loving arms.


6 posted on 02/13/2005 2:33:55 PM PST by BlueAngel
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To: BlueAngel
Amen. I was blessed to be able to visit Fatima and Lourdes. I feel like the last chapter has ended.......

Rest nestled in the Lords loving arms Lucia

7 posted on 02/13/2005 3:28:10 PM PST by arbee4bush (Then, in a clattering crescendo of keystrokes, the issue exploded in cyberspace.)
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To: BlueAngel
Prayers for Sister Lucia, and comfort to all who were given so much hope by the brave little children of Fatima.

The world should have heeded her warnings, and now, more than any other time since the Apparition, her message to mankind from the Blessed Mother must be the guiding principle.
8 posted on 02/13/2005 3:42:25 PM PST by ishabibble
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To: sinkspur; GirlShortstop; Salvation; Maeve; Siobhan; tiki; SuziQ; Mr. Thorne; Tribune7; Jaded; ...

May Lucia, faithful child of our Lord, rest in peace.

Thank you, Sister Lucia, for your witness, your bravery in adversity, and your openness to God.

And thank you, Blessed Mother, for being the loving mother you are, always trying to bring us home to be with your Son.

Amen.


9 posted on 02/13/2005 4:21:56 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I heard the decade prayer watching the Rosary on EWTN back in the 80s and said, I want to belong to a church that can pray something like that...and wasn't long afterwards that I had decided to convert.

Thank you, children of Fatima. Thank you, Blessed Mother.

Prayers from the Fatima apparitions:

Decade Prayer (After each decade of the Rosary)
O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of your mercy.

Pardon Prayer
My God, I believe, I adore, I hope, and I love You. I implore Your pardon for those who do not believe, do not adore, do not hope, and do not love You. Amen.

Angel's Prayer
Most Holy Trinity - Father, Son, Holy Spirit - I adore You profoundly and offer You the most precious Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ, present in all the tabernacles of the earth, in reparation for the outrages, sacrileges, and indifference by which He Himself is offended. And by the infinite merits of His Most Sacred Heart and those of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, I beg of You the conversion of poor sinners. Amen.

Eucharistic Prayer
Most Holy Trinity, I adore you! My God, my God, I love you in the Most Blessed Sacrament.

Sacrifice Prayer
O my Jesus, it is for love of you and in reparation for the offenses committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary and for the conversion of poor sinners.

Penance Prayer
O My Jesus, I offer this for love of Thee, for the conversion of sinners, and in reparation for the sins committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary.


10 posted on 02/13/2005 4:25:17 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: RightWhale; Canticle_of_Deborah; Unam Sanctam
Was the third revelation ever made public?

No.

A previous poster gave you a link for EWTN which said the opposite.

The founder and head of the EWTN network, Mother Maria Angelica said on her TV program that she did not believe that they released the whole secret.

I heard that with my own ears so the little bootlickers around here don't even bother trying to deny it.

It seems that when the secret was trasnferred from the the Ordinary in Portugal, the head bishop of the diocese, to the Vatican, two items were sent. One was the secret which the auxiliary assistant bishop held up to the light and noted was a short letter no more than 24 short lines in length. It seems Sister Lucia's notebook was also sent and the much lenghtier vision vision that was released a few years ago was excerpted from the notebook.

What was released was a vision, no words at all from Our Lady. Yet the first and second part of the secret made public in the 1940's consist only of Her words as also does the Epilogue which was released at the same time:

"In the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph..."

Our Lady also mentions in the epilogue that Portugal will remain preserved in the Faith - which implies that She mentioned in the third par of the secret that it will be extinquished elsewhere.

The best assumption for the the WORDS of Our Lady in the unreleased third secret are the APOSTASY FROM THE FAITH AND FROM THE CHURCH OF THOSE AT THE TOP.

11 posted on 02/13/2005 4:51:30 PM PST by Viva Christo Rey
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To: thor76

Of course......we are merely theorizing here. We do not have all of the facts at our disposal


14 posted on 02/13/2005 5:12:12 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
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To: OptimusPrime5

Perhaps so.......but they also know that the current pope is understood to be under the special protection of Our Lady, and cannot be readily eliminated, until such time as God has finished using him - as he uses all men - for his Holy Will.


16 posted on 02/13/2005 5:25:56 PM PST by thor76 (Vade retro, Draco! Crux sacra sit mihi lux !)
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To: Unam Sanctam

I remember seeing the film "The Miracle of Our Lady of Fatima" as a child and being extremely moved.


17 posted on 02/13/2005 6:12:59 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
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To: Viva Christo Rey

So Cardinal Ratzinger is lying and making it all up out of whole cloth?


18 posted on 02/13/2005 6:21:59 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Viva Christo Rey

Thanks, I think that is the case.


19 posted on 02/13/2005 6:23:55 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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FATIMA SEER STOOD AS MOST FAMOUS NUN IN WORLD, HER PASSING SEEN AS PROPHETIC

She was arguably (with St. Bernadette of Lourdes) the most famous Marian seer in history, a 97-year-old who had first seen the Blessed Mother in 1917 at the age of 10, with cousins Francisco, 9, and Jacinta, 7 -- whose deaths preceded her own by more than eighty years.

In all that time she had been cloistered in convents, most recently in Coimbra, Portugal, a Carmelite who had lived out her vocation in stunningly successful fashion -- never desiring publicity, never making claims beyond what the Blessed Mother told her, never appearing on TV -- not only the most famous seer of the twentieth century but with Mother Teresa of Calcutta the most famous nun in the world.

Her name was Lucia de Jesus dos Santos -- that was her given name once she became a religious (known too as Sister Lucy of the Immaculate Heart) -- and she was also recipient of the famous Third Secret of Fatima, her death Sunday, after several weeks of infirmity, no doubt impressing many who have closely followed such matters as of potential prophetic significance.

Although unusually healthy and agile -- physically and mentally -- during the past several years, Sister Lucia (born Lucia Abobora), and just weeks away from her 98th birthday, was known to suffer prolonged bouts with cold-like ailments in a cell that had to be warmed with a space heater, occasionally missing Mass. "She had been weak for several weeks and had not left her cell," Coimbra Bishop Albino Cleto told the Church's Radio Renascenca Sunday.

It was actually in 1915, in the midst of the chaos of World War I, that Sister Lucia and her cousins had their first supernatural experience.

"We were just about to start praying the Rosary when I saw, poised in the air above the trees that stretched down to the valley which lay at our feet, what appeared to be a cloud in human form," Lucia later wrote -- in prose becoming of a first-rate writer.

It looked like a statue made of snow or a person wrapped in a sheet, and turned out to be an angel who had come to announce the Blessed Mother.

So forceful was the presence of God, Lucia later recalled, that it "almost annihilated us." The angel came twice more before the famous 1917 apparitions of the Blessed Mother on land Lucia's father owned.

The angel had explained that God was deeply offended by the evil in the world and gave Lucia the words to a new prayer of reparation -- at one point handing them a chalice from which they drank the Blood of Jesus.

On May 13, 1917, the Virgin Mary herself appeared. "It was a lady dressed all in white," recalled Lucia, "more brilliant than the sun, shedding rays of light clearer and stronger than a crystal glass filled with the most sparkling water and pierced by the burning rays of the sun."

The Blessed Mother was to appear almost every month until a final apparition on October 13, 1917 -- during which tens of thousands witnessed the "miracle of the sun."

Spinning and throwing off stupendous rays of crimson, causing reflections of green, red, orange, blue, and violet as it gyrated at least three times, the solar orb shuddered and began to plunge toward earth in zig-zag fashion -- convincing even observers who were secular reporters or atheists. At one point it rotated with a disc or Host at its center.

In her prophetic secrets, the Virgin told the Fatima seers -- most particularly Lucia, who conveyed the messages -- that World War I was about to end, but that if mankind did not repent, there would be a worse war to follow, one that would be announced by a "great sign." According to Sister Lucia, this occurred in 1938 when there was an extraordinary display of the aurora borealis from across Europe, from London to Africa, and across  North America, a display that struck terror into the hearts of many and was followed by entry into World War Two.

The Blessed Mother asked for consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart and Communion of reparation on the first Saturday of every month, and the seers were also given a prayer that would become part of the Rosary for many devout ("Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, lead all souls to Heaven, especially those most in need of Thy Mercy").

The connection between evil in the world and world events was a watershed in Mariology. In her last 15 years, receiving visitors at Coimbra, Sister Lucia made clear that the requested consecration was fulfilled when in 1984 John Paul II -- who credited Our Lady of Fatima with saving his life when he was shot on her feast day of May 13, 1981 -- consecrated the world and implicitly Russia to her Immaculate Heart. When asked how she knew it had been accepted, Sister Lucia pointed to the phenomenal collapse of Communism right after the consecration and hinted that she still experienced communication from the Blessed Mother, who had affirmed it.

It was Russia that served as the main issue in the secrets, and on May 13, 2000, the Vatican began release of the Third Secret, which envisioned the shooting of a "bishop in white" (John Paul is the Bishop of Rome) and an angel ready to torch the world but halted from doing so by the Virgin.

The secret also symbolized the incredible suffering of those martyred under Communism; it was just weeks after the last Fatima apparition that Lenin assumed power in Russia, which the Blessed Mother had specifically named as ready to turn against God.

John Paul II has privately speculated that the fulfillment of Fatima is now at Medjugorje in Bosnia-Hercegovina, where seers have claimed to have received secrets since just after the 1981 shooting. Whether those secrets may soon begin to materialize, and whether Sister Lucia's death is a sign of the times -- an indication, along with major natural events, that the world is entering an exciting but precarious time -- are likely to preoccupy many of those who have followed the incredible story of Sister Lucia and her two cousins, who died in 1919 and 1920. Many are those who have believed that her death would foretell of major events that may now be on the horizon, her death on the 13th -- the anniversary day of those months when Mary did appear -- one more sign from Heaven.

[resources:  Sister Lucia's book, Calls From the Message of Fatima, The Final Hour,  Marian Apparitions of the Twentieth Century]

Fatima seer was 97

Lucia de Jesus dos Santos, the last of three children who claimed to see the Virgin at Fatima and who revealed a vision the Catholic Church said foretold the attempt to kill Pope John Paul, died on Sunday, the Church said.

Dos Santos, 97, who later became a nun, was the eldest of the shepherd children who in 1917 told of seeing apparitions of the Virgin Mary six times. She died at her Carmelite convent at Coimbra in central Portugal.

"She had been weak for several weeks and had not left her cell," Coimbra Bishop Albino Cleto told the Church's Radio Renascenca.

The Vatican interpreted one part of the visions as foretelling the attempt to kill the Pope and Communism's persecution of Christianity. The apparitions took place the same year as the Russian Revolution.

The Pope believes the Madonna of Fatima saved his life on May 13, 1981, when Turkish gunman Mehmet Ali Agca nearly killed him in St Peter's Square. The shooting took place on one of the anniversaries of the 1917 apparitions.

In a sign of gratitude a year after the assassination attempt, the Pope had one of the 9mm bullets which Agca fired at him placed in the crown of the statue at Fatima.

"One hand fired the bullet and another guided it," the Pope once said of Agca's attempt to kill him.

Dos Santos was said by believers to be the main recipient of prophecies from the Virgin about key 20th century events.

The first two parts of the prophecies were known for decades. The first saw a vision of hell, the second predicted the outbreak of World War II.

But it was the third part, the so-called third secret of Fatima, which kept the world intrigued for more than 80 years.The Vatican revealed its interpretation of the vision during the Pope's visit to Fatima in May 2000 on the anniversary of the assassination attempt. One of her last public appearances was with the Pope at Fatima.

Dos Santos's recollection of the third part of the visions, which she wrote down in 1944, saw "a bishop dressed in white (and) we had the impression that it was the Holy Father."

As the vision continued, the children say the Pope reaching the top of a mountain where "he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him."

Before the Vatican unveiled the vision, papal envoys visited Dos Santos in her cloistered convent to seek her opinion of the Vatican's interpretation and her permission to reveal it.

"She repeated her conviction that the vision of Fatima concerns above all the struggle of atheistic communism against the Church and against Christians, and describes the terrible sufferings of the victims of the faith in 20th century," a Vatican document said in 2000.

The document went on to say: "When asked: 'Is the principal figure in the vision the Pope?' Sister Lucia replied at once that it was.

Dos Santos was born the youngest of seven children in a peasant family in Aljustrel, a village in central Portugal.

The events at Fatima unfolded against a backdrop of religious persecution under anti-clerical factions that ruled Portugal after the overthrow of the monarchy in 1910.

In 1916 she experienced her first vision, when an angel appeared to the children, she wrote in her memoirs.

On May 13, 1917, the Virgin Mary appeared to her and her cousins Jacinta and Francisco Marta on an oak tree. On her last appearance before an estimated 50,000 onlookers, witnesses claim to have experienced a 15-minute spectacle of bright lights and rainbow colors.

In her memoirs, dos Santos said the Virgin Mary appeared to the children six times in 1917. Jacinta and Francisco died in the influenza pandemic in 1919 and 1920.

The two were beatified, the last step to sainthood, by Pope John Paul during his Fatima visit in 2000.

One of her last visitors was actor Mel Gibson, director of the 2004 movie "The Passion of The Christ." He met her at the convent in July 2004 and gave her a DVD of his movie.

20 posted on 02/13/2005 6:26:59 PM PST by Coleus (http://www.reversingroe.com/)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


21 posted on 02/13/2005 6:29:43 PM PST by Coleus (http://www.reversingroe.com/)
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Virgin Mary Child Dies (Lucia of Fatima)
The Scotsman ^ | Feb 13, 2005 | unknown
Posted on 02/13/2005 6:46:33 PM EST by Cincinnatus

22 posted on 02/13/2005 6:35:20 PM PST by Coleus (Brooke Shields aborted how many children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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To: Unam Sanctam
So Cardinal Ratzinger is lying and making it all up out of whole cloth?

If you mean the author of "the Church 'subsists in' the Mystical Body of Christ" versus the correct equality, the Church IS the Mystical Body of Christ...

The answer is yes.

23 posted on 02/13/2005 6:39:34 PM PST by Viva Christo Rey
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To: Coleus
First of all, may Sister Lucia rest in peace with the Lord, and second, thanks for the ping.

I have a hard time accepting apparitions as fact. Although, I watched a special on PAX concerning Fatima, and the thing that struck me the most is that, according to those supposedly in the know, the kids refused to recant their story under penalty of serious physical pain, torture, really, as I think they were threatened with being boiled in oil.

Don't know if that's fact, just reporting what was reported on that special.

24 posted on 02/13/2005 6:40:08 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: Coleus
John Paul II has privately speculated that the fulfillment of Fatima is now at Medjugorje in Bosnia-Hercegovina, where seers have claimed to have received secrets since just after the 1981 shooting.

It is likely that John Paul II never speculated any such thing, given that Medjugorje has not received approval from the Church, even after three investigative commissions.

Here's what Bishop Peric of Medjugorje said just last summer:

Fifthly, the "seers" who see visions on a daily basis and the endless apparitions themselves (33,333 to date, nor it there any risk of my being mistaken, for there is no end to the numbers or the "visions") are more in the nature of a religious show and a spectacle for the world than a true and faithful witness to the peace and unity of the Faith and love for the Church. Who can fail to see that these endlessly multiplying numbers should not be taken seriously? Shall we change our Catholic orthodoxy for fantastical superstition?

Source.

25 posted on 02/13/2005 6:40:47 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: Unam Sanctam

Most interesting link in Post 3. A good read.


26 posted on 02/13/2005 6:42:14 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
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To: AlbionGirl

I remember reading that the threat actually happened.


27 posted on 02/13/2005 7:20:21 PM PST by rudyudy
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To: rudyudy

If it wasn't for FR, I wouldn't know this news, that Sister Lucia has died.


28 posted on 02/13/2005 7:29:26 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
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To: Unam Sanctam; nickcarraway; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; Lady In Blue; attagirl; goldenstategirl; ...
Catholic Discussion Ping!

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Catholic Discussion Ping List.

29 posted on 02/13/2005 7:32:53 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Ciexyz; Unam Sanctam
Thanks for the recommendation.

HAMLET: "And therefore as a stranger give it welcome.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy".
~Hamlet- Act I, Scene V

30 posted on 02/13/2005 7:47:09 PM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Salvation; All

Good Morning My G-D My G-D time is time I do feel not good Thank you


31 posted on 02/13/2005 8:09:30 PM PST by anonymoussierra (Quo Vadis Domine? Quo Vadis? Thank you)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Rest in the peace of Our Lord, Sr. Lucia.

sneakers


32 posted on 02/13/2005 8:33:12 PM PST by sneakers
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To: sinkspur; Salvation; All

"John Paul II has privately speculated that the fulfillment of Fatima is now at Medjugorje in Bosnia-Hercegovina, where seers have claimed to have received secrets since just after the 1981 shooting.
It is likely that John Paul II never speculated any such thing, given that Medjugorje has not received approval from the Church, even after three investigative commissions.

Here's what Bishop Peric of Medjugorje said just last summer:

Fifthly, the "seers" who see visions on a daily basis and the endless apparitions themselves (33,333 to date, nor it there any risk of my being mistaken, for there is no end to the numbers or the "visions") are more in the nature of a religious show and a spectacle for the world than a true and faithful witness to the peace and unity of the Faith and love for the Church. Who can fail to see that these endlessly multiplying numbers should not be taken seriously? Shall we change our Catholic orthodoxy for fantastical superstition?"Good Morning I will write G-D is G-D"Who is like GOD!"I do not know why many persons atack Jana Pawla II please do know this he is very very important person what do you want my/mego Jana Pawla II "dead" please "think" G-D will help him Thank you


33 posted on 02/13/2005 8:50:48 PM PST by anonymoussierra (Quo Vadis Domine? Quo Vadis? Thank you)
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To: Unam Sanctam

May she rest in everlasting happiness and peace. This is sad news.


34 posted on 02/13/2005 9:10:59 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Unam Sanctam

God rest her soul and may she be in the presence of God.


35 posted on 02/13/2005 10:17:20 PM PST by tiki (Won one against the Flipper)
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To: AlbionGirl

Yes - they were threatened with boiling oil.
Also...thousands witnessed the miracle of the sun.

The vatican's site regarding Fatima...

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000626_message-fatima_en.html


36 posted on 02/13/2005 10:26:09 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Salvation; Ciexyz


GOD BLESS
May Sister Lucia Forever Rest In Heaven

37 posted on 02/13/2005 10:53:16 PM PST by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY to 2008 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Thanks for that link.


38 posted on 02/13/2005 11:29:29 PM PST by Gazoo
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To: Scotswife

It's interesting that they keep reducing the number of witnesses. I remember many years ago reading it was around 100 thousand. The New York times I believe did a story not too long ago and said it was around 70 thousand. I just read tonight that Reuters reported it around 50 thousand. I think I will go with the original story reported in the Portuguese newspaper back in 1917. They had it around 100 thousand. I am sure the Washington Post will report someday that it was 5 or ten whackos drunk on wine.


39 posted on 02/13/2005 11:39:55 PM PST by rudyudy
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To: Viva Christo Rey
I heard that with my own ears so the little bootlickers around here don't even bother trying to deny it.

Why the nasty comment and the use of the diminutive?

40 posted on 02/14/2005 3:34:55 AM PST by Diva
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To: tiki; Salvation; All

"God rest her soul and may she be in the presence of God."Thank you She is happy now


41 posted on 02/14/2005 5:24:01 AM PST by anonymoussierra (Quo Vadis Domine? Quo Vadis? Thank you)
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To: ishabibble

"Prayers for Sister Lucia, and comfort to all who were given so much hope by the brave little children of Fatima.

The world should have heeded her warnings, and now, more than any other time since the Apparition, her message to mankind from the Blessed Mother must be the guiding principle."Amen!!!!!Thank you


42 posted on 02/14/2005 5:25:35 AM PST by anonymoussierra (Quo Vadis Domine? Quo Vadis? Thank you)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

"And thank you, Blessed Mother, for being the loving mother you are, always trying to bring us home to be with your Son.

Amen."Amen!!!!!!Very good Thank you


43 posted on 02/14/2005 5:27:10 AM PST by anonymoussierra (Quo Vadis Domine? Quo Vadis? Thank you)
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To: rudyudy
hee hee! You've reminded me to check the MSM's "take" on the numbers as they "report the truth" today. Come to think of it - this wasn't on a lot of mainstream internet sites today. I have a book on Fatima and I think the number given was around 70,000. The thing is - some people in the general area (of the countryside) saw it too - but didn't know what it was they were looking at (ex...schooldchildren reported seeing it, ran out to watch - but at the time didn't realize it was connected with events at Fatima)
44 posted on 02/14/2005 7:14:30 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: anonymoussierra


Hi anonsi! How are you?

I have always loved the children of Fatima, but I am happy that Sister Lucia is now in heaven with her beloved family.

How goes the war? If your English was better, you would see the joke!!! Please feel free to smile anyway! Prayers for you and your brave fellows. I am always happy to see your splendid photos. Good luck and God bless!


45 posted on 02/14/2005 9:36:25 AM PST by ishabibble
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To: Unam Sanctam

Requiem aeternam dona ei Domine. Et lux perpetua luceat ei. Requiescat in pace. Amen.
Anima eius et animae omnium fidelium defunctorum per misericordiam Dei reqiescant in pace. Amen.

46 posted on 02/14/2005 2:29:00 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: RightWhale; Viva Christo Rey; OptimusPrime5
Was the third revelation ever made public?

Handwriting Analysis of the Alleged "Third Secret": http://www.tldm.org/news/lucys_writing.htm


(It's from a Leukenite website, but in this instance, I think they're correct.)

47 posted on 02/14/2005 2:36:26 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Unam Sanctam
Tribulation chronology: Quatrain X.72, deception and fulfillment
48 posted on 02/14/2005 4:29:38 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Unam Sanctam
Sister Lucia, last remaining witness of Fatima apparitions, dies at 97

SISTER LUCIA RIP

LAST OF CHILDREN WHO CLAIMED TO SEE VIRGIN MARY DIES AT 97

Last child who claimed to see "Virgin Mary" dies

49 posted on 02/14/2005 4:54:17 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Viva Christo Rey

**The founder and head of the EWTN network, Mother Maria Angelica said on her TV program that she did not believe that they released the whole secret.**

I have always believed this. I think we were told some of it, but information from other apparitions indicates that not all was told here.


50 posted on 02/14/2005 4:57:43 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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