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Bible Question
September 16, 2004 | Gypsy286

Posted on 09/16/2005 5:25:50 PM PDT by GYPSY286

I'll be the first to admit that I have not read the Bible from start to finish but I do remember reading a scripture that - I'm paraphrasing here - that whoever takes away from what is written here will be turned away from God and whoever adds to what is written will be turned away from God. Can someone more knowledgeable tell me where I can find it? Any help would be deeply appreciated!


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1 posted on 09/16/2005 5:25:51 PM PDT by GYPSY286
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To: GYPSY286

I thnk you want Revelation 22:19


2 posted on 09/16/2005 5:27:11 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: GYPSY286

End of Revelations for starters. In bibles with words of Jesus in Red it will be in red at the end. The only time he is quoted after the gospels/resurrection.


3 posted on 09/16/2005 5:27:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (Rock beats scissors. Don't run with rocks. NRA)
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To: GYPSY286

The very end of it, IIRC. I believe that it is an admonishment to not adulterate its content.


4 posted on 09/16/2005 5:27:56 PM PDT by Riley (STOP CASTING POROSITY!!)
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To: GYPSY286

I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God shall add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book. (Rev 22:18,19)


5 posted on 09/16/2005 5:28:18 PM PDT by ktupper
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw

You're forgetting Acts, when Jesus converts Paul.


6 posted on 09/16/2005 5:29:07 PM PDT by ROTB
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To: GYPSY286

Revelation...as you've been told.

Dare ya to read the whole Bible! :)

It's a decision you'll NEVER regret.


7 posted on 09/16/2005 5:29:07 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw
The only time he is quoted after the gospels/resurrection.

Not true. Jesus was quoted when He spoke to Saul, AKA Paul, on the Road to Damascus.

Otherwise, on the money. What would you consider to be adding to-subtracting from the Bible?

8 posted on 09/16/2005 5:29:49 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw

"The only time he is quoted after the gospels/resurrection."

Uh, wrong. As I recall Paul quotes Jesus as he describes the proper way to celebrate the Eucharist in I Corinthians 11.


9 posted on 09/16/2005 5:30:21 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: GYPSY286


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rev%2022&version=31

Revelation 22:18


18I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.


10 posted on 09/16/2005 5:30:28 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: GYPSY286

It is found both in Dueteronomy (Deut 4:2) and in Revelations (Rev 22:17-18) and was meant in both cases for those specific books as when written, the BIble had not been compiled into a complete work as yet.


11 posted on 09/16/2005 5:30:36 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: GYPSY286

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.
REVELATION 22:18-19

My red letter edition has verses 18 and 19 in black.

Why read the bible when you can listen to it read by a Shakespearean actor?

http://www.audio-bible.com/bible/bible.html


12 posted on 09/16/2005 5:30:39 PM PDT by ROTB
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To: GYPSY286
Revelation 22:18-19

18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.
19 And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

13 posted on 09/16/2005 5:30:45 PM PDT by Knute (W- Yep, He's STILL the President!)
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To: GYPSY286
Hah, look in the very back of the book.

Revelation 22:18-19.

"I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book:If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book."

14 posted on 09/16/2005 5:30:48 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: ktupper

Thank you so much. Would the Book of Mormon be considered as "adding" to the Words of the Bible?


15 posted on 09/16/2005 5:31:03 PM PDT by GYPSY286
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To: GYPSY286

Actually, that second is Rev 22:18-19.


16 posted on 09/16/2005 5:31:12 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: GYPSY286
...that whoever takes away from what is written here will be turned away from God and whoever adds to what is written will be turned away from God.

Revelation 22:18, 19.

18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


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17 posted on 09/16/2005 5:33:59 PM PDT by rdb3 (I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. --Philippians 4:13)
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw
The only time he is quoted after the gospels/resurrection.

Look at the Revelation again. Christ is speaking directly to the Apostle John as he gave him the Revelation.


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18 posted on 09/16/2005 5:35:49 PM PDT by rdb3 (I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. --Philippians 4:13)
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To: GYPSY286

Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Deu 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.


19 posted on 09/16/2005 5:39:28 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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To: GYPSY286
If you take that scriptuire literally, then turn back to Duet 4:2 and throw out everything after that. The books were written seperately and compiled into the entore Bible much later.

In addition, the Book of John is not chronologically last in the Bible, it was wrtten before several other books.

Nevertheless, the Holy Bible is God's word and is scrripture.

I will admit to you up front that I am LDS...I joined the church after being raised a Southern Baptist, for which upobringing I will be eternally grateful.

Jesus Christ remains my personal Savior and it is to Him alone that I look for salvation. My church, the LDS faith, teaches that. We do have differences in theology, but realtively speaking, next to the saving atonement of Jesus Christ ad Him crucified, they are minor.

I do not mean to start a flame war or a contentious arguement...I will not participate in any thing like that...just letting you know my understanding and my witness.

20 posted on 09/16/2005 5:40:28 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: GYPSY286

Interesting question....I always thought what was meant there was that we are to not change the words around to make them say what we want them to say. Leave them alone. But in different versions of the Bible, to stay exact in the meaning of the verses. IMO


21 posted on 09/16/2005 5:41:27 PM PDT by queenkathy (Dear God, I have a problem; it's me.)
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To: GYPSY286
Would the Book of Mormon be considered as "adding" to the Words of the Bible?

If Mormons consider the Book of Mormon to be a direct word from God's mouth to Mr. Smith's ear...then, "yes." The Book of Mormon is NOT Scripture.

22 posted on 09/16/2005 5:42:50 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10
The LDS considers the Book of Mormon to be the words of Gods prophets (parts of the twelve tribes who had been seperated) who lived long ago on the American continent in the new wolrd. They testified of Christ and His coming in Palestine, just as the Bible is God's word in the Old Word to His prophets there and is His witness for Christ.

As such, the Book of Mormon is considered to go hand in hand with the BIble in testifying of Christ. That is its purpose. "In the mouths of two or more witnesses."

That is how the LDS faith views the Book of Mormon, believing that both are scripture.

Not looking for contention, just explaining the faith.

23 posted on 09/16/2005 5:49:54 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

Okay, thanks.


24 posted on 09/16/2005 5:52:49 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

You are welcome...and than you.


25 posted on 09/16/2005 5:58:39 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: GYPSY286
Everyone seems to be looking at the curses upon those who add to or take away from the prophecies in Revelation. I'd suggest it is just as important to look at the promises of blessings to those who read and keep the things that are written in that book:

(Rev 1:3) Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

The promise is there. Read it, hear it, keep it. You will be blessed.

26 posted on 09/16/2005 6:09:50 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe

Amen...seek the blessing!


27 posted on 09/16/2005 7:26:34 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head
We do have differences in theology, but realtively speaking, next to the saving atonement of Jesus Christ ad Him crucified, they are minor.

Really? Altering God's nature is "minor"? It's blasphemy.
28 posted on 09/16/2005 7:29:39 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: ShadowAce
Wouldn't it be both verses 18 and 19?
18 I warn everyone who hears the prophetic words in this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book,
 
19 and if anyone takes away from the words in this prophetic book, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city described in this book.

29 posted on 09/16/2005 7:39:58 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Conservative til I die
Like I said, I will not get into contention.

I worship God the Father as my eternal Father, Jesus Christ, His Son (whome He said He was) as my personal Savior, and the Holy Ghost, who witnesses of Jesus Christ even as he did when Christ was baptised.

The essential element and issue is that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, atoned for our sins and through Him, and Him alone, can mankind be saved.

God's best to you and yours.

30 posted on 09/16/2005 7:43:18 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Brad's Gramma

I think someone should make a movie about Daniel. And I mean a fancy high-dollar Hollywood version, like The Passion.


31 posted on 09/16/2005 8:11:53 PM PDT by SerpentDove (Sen. Landrieu on the flooded buses: "This administration doesn't believe in mass transit.")
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To: GYPSY286; sanewbie

Let us all remember that the "book" being referenced is not a book at all but a scroll. The Greek word for scroll, biblion, is sometimes translated as, book. Additionally, the curse and blessing are applied only to the "scroll" of Revelation. The New Testament, as such did not exist, although many of its parts did. The Old Testament had not been codified definitively, either. Certainly, the Bible, a single codified book with a fixed table of contents did not exist either for Christians or Jews. Therefore, to apply the curse or the blessing to the Bible as we know it today would be a stretch.


32 posted on 09/16/2005 11:01:16 PM PDT by sanormal
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To: GYPSY286

Galatians 1:8


33 posted on 09/17/2005 12:35:40 AM PDT by kublia khan (absolute war brings total victory)
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To: ROTB

Thanks for the link!


34 posted on 09/17/2005 12:39:18 AM PDT by endthematrix (JOHN ROBERTS vs JOE BIDEN ................... ROBERTS wins TKO in second round!)
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To: kublia khan

Galatians 1:8 (New International Version)

8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
35 posted on 09/17/2005 8:20:44 AM PDT by gscc
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To: GYPSY286
Thank you so much. Would the Book of Mormon be considered as "adding" to the Words of the Bible?

The problem is, Mormons can point out it only applies to Revelation. And since it does, there's no real rebuttle.

You're better off using the resources like the ones here.

36 posted on 09/17/2005 10:02:50 AM PDT by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: GYPSY286; A.J.Armitage
You're better off using the resources like the ones here.

If you want to know what "Mormons" really believe (and not just what anti-Mormons say about us), you are better off using the resources here.

37 posted on 09/17/2005 5:55:43 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: Logophile

That's a misdirection to get people to avoid looking at (usually accurate) information about what Mormons don't want you to hear until you're in it deep enough you'll just swallow it, like God the Father being a former mere man who just got promoted for being a good little Mormon on his own home planet. At least you don't sue people over it.

But it doesn't even fit the link I provided, because unless you've dropped the Book of Mormon like you did polygamy and that curse of Cain thing, demonstrations of Smith's authorship are a perfectly appropriate answer to what you "really believe". You really believe it was written in ancient America, and you're really wrong. And the whole religion is exposed as a fraud, one of at least half a dozen ways anyone who's not already sold can easily see.


38 posted on 09/18/2005 3:08:28 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: A.J.Armitage
That's a misdirection to get people to avoid looking at (usually accurate) information about what Mormons don't want you to hear

"Usually accurate" information? That means information that is sometimes inaccurate. And if we are judge by your caricature of LDS doctrine, sometimes should be often.

You are free to disbelieve Mormonism. However, it is not right for you to misrepresent our beliefs in an attempt to ridicule or defame the LDS Church. If anyone wants to know what the LDS Church teaches, it is best to go to the source. For as you have demonstrated, the Church's opponents cannot be expected to give a fair or accurate accounting.

We have been over this ground many times before. God has given me sufficient reasons to believe in the truthfulness of Mormonism; you have given no reason not to. I have no interest in arguing any more with you. I suggest we agree to disagree, and leave it at that.

39 posted on 09/19/2005 11:25:08 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: Logophile
Inaccurate is not synonymous with unsympathetic.

Other readers will be free to draw the conclusion you wish to avoid a debate because you're afraid you'll lose.

40 posted on 09/19/2005 1:29:04 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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