That's how I see it, Jo, but I am sure FK will say it's not so, just as he keeps reminding us that (1) If God ordains something He is not the source of it or responsible for it; yet, Calvinists will tell you that each and every one of us is exactly as God ordained! (2) He will tell you that giving us freedom of will somehow "diminishes" Him, but fails to consider that perhaps our free will is exactly what God ordained in order for us to be able to love Him, freely, because love that is not free is no love. ...
You are correct, it is not so. :) God does not judge anyone for salvation based on what he can or cannot do. We do not believe in a works-based salvation.... God chose His elect before "the beginning". Those chosen will be saved and the others will not. He had no duty to choose any of us so all of your human applications of doctrines of "fairness" do not apply. God's ways are not our ways.
(1) If God ordains something SINFUL, such as the betrayal by Judas, then He is not the author or responsible because He allows it rather than causes it. I have already made my case for this. If God ordains something GOOD, then He is the author. ... Yes, each of us is exactly as God ordained us to be. Some will be saved, some will not.
(2) Generally, God did give us the freedom to sin, the precise reason for which I cannot be certain. Perhaps it was to show us our need for Him and that we must be completely dependent on Him. Perhaps it was simply His will in how to order the universe and nothing more need be said. In any event, the appearance of sin could not have been an accident, as you seem to imply. ... When you say that the only true love is free will love, you continue to mix man's and God's points of view. In our human experience, we do experience "free will" to love, and we experience that it is real. For us, it is true. However, from God's POV, it is res judicata, the thing has already been decided. His chosen elect will love Him and He will love them.
[Jo Kus to Kosta:] "You can give a bible to an atheist and will he necessarily turn to God? Not if his heart and mind is closed to the possibility."
A false comparison to Protestantism. None of us believe that. The Bible isn't faith itself, that only comes from God. The Bible is the tangible authority of the faith, on earth.
He allows it rather than causes it. I have already made my case for this
Well, when you figure out why He allows it, let me know. You seem to know How He thinks for everything else, contrary to what you said a paragraph earlier. But, as for your "case" it seems you have convinced yourself more than those you are trying to convince. Maybe you should start with your more recent Calvinist member, Albion Girl (post #4432); she seems to believe that God made everything, the good -- and the bad.
Perhaps it was to show us our need for Him and that we must be completely dependent on Him
Maybe you can explain to me first why would the "rejects" depend on, and need Him if they have been "condemned" to hell from all eternity?
...you continue to mix man's and God's points of view
And you continue to write as if you know what God thinks? Everyone else seems to be doing that. This is why I am skeptical about the Bible. Everyone reads into it what he or she wants.
FK, you will find this comment by Fr. John Romanides, an eminent and recently deceased Orthodox theologian, informative on the subject we have been discussing.
http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/frjr_sin.aspx