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How Tradition Gave Us the Bible
Assoc of Students at Catholic Colleges ^ | Mark Shea

Posted on 02/06/2006 1:02:10 PM PST by NYer

It's still a jolt for some people to realize this, but the Bible did not fall down out of the sky, leather-bound and gold-monogrammed with the words of Christ in red, in 95 AD.  Rather the canon of Christian Scripture slowly developed over a period of about 1500 years.  That does not mean, of course, that Scripture was being written for 1500 years after the life of Christ.  Rather, it means that it took the Church some fifteen centuries to formally and definitively state which books out of the great mass of early Christian and pseudo-Christian books constituted the Bible.

The process of defining the canon of Scripture is an example of what the Church calls "development of doctrine".  This is a different thing than "innovation of doctrine".  Doctrine develops as a baby develops into a man, not as a baby grows extra noses, eyes, and hands.  An innovation of doctrine would be if the Church declared something flatly contrary to all previous teaching ("Pope John Paul Ringo I Declares the Doctrine of the Trinity to No Longer Be the Teaching of the Church:  Bishop Celebrate by Playing Tiddly Winks with So-Called 'Blessed Sacrament'").  It is against such flat reversals of Christian teaching that the promise of the Spirit to guard the apostolic Tradition stands.  And, in fact, there has never ever been a time when the Church has reversed its dogmatic teaching.  (Prudential and disciplinary changes are another matter.  The Church is not eternally wedded to, for instance, unmarried priests, as the wife of St. Peter can tell you.)

But though innovations in doctrine are not possible, developments of doctrine occur all the time and these tend to apply old teaching to new situations or to more completely articulate ancient teaching that has not been fully fleshed out.  So, for example, in our own day the Church teaches against the evils of embryonic stem cell research even though the New Testament has nothing to say on the matter.  Yet nobody in his five wits claims that the present Church "invented" opposition to embryonic stem cell research from thin air.  We all understand that the Church, by the very nature of its Tradition, has said "You shall not kill" for 2,000 years.  It merely took the folly of modern embryonic stem cell research to cause the Church to apply its Tradition to this concrete situation and declare what it has always believed.

Very well then, as with attacks on sacred human life in the 21st century, so with attacks on Sacred Tradition in the previous twenty.  Jesus establishes the Tradition that he has not come to abolish the Law and the Prophets but to fulfill them (Mt 5:17).   But when Tradition bumps into the theories of early Jewish Christians that all Gentiles must be circumcised in order to become Christians, the Council of Jerusalem (Acts 15) is still necessary to authoritatively flesh that Tradition out.  Moreover, the Council settles the question by calling the Bible, not to the judge's bench, but to the witness stand.  Scripture bears witness to the call of the Gentiles, but the final judgment depends on the authority of Christ speaking through his apostles and elders whose inspired declaration is not "The Bible says..." but "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us..." (Acts 15:28).

In all this, the Church, as ever, inseparably unites Scripture as the light and Sacred Tradition as the lens through which it is focused.  In this way the mustard seed of the Kingdom continues to grow in that light, getting more mustardy, not less.

How then did Tradition develop with respect to the canon of Scripture?

In some cases, the Church in both east and west has a clear memory of just who wrote a given book and could remind the faithful of this.  So, for instance, when a second century heretic named Marcion proposed to delete the Old Testament as the product of an evil god and canonize the letters of Paul (but with all those nasty Old Testament quotes snipped out), and a similarly edited gospel of Luke (sanitized of contact with Judaism for your protection), the Church responded with local bishops (in areas affected by Marcion's heresy) proposing the first canons of Scripture. 

Note that the Church seldom defines its teaching (and is in fact disinclined to define it) till some challenge to the Faith (in this case, Marcion) forces it to do so.  When Marcion tries to take away from the Tradition of Scripture by deleting Matthew, Mark and John and other undesirable books, the Church applies the basic measuring rod of Tradition and says, "This does not agree with the Tradition that was handed down to us, which remembers that Matthew wrote Matthew, Mark wrote Mark and John wrote John.

Matthew also issued among the Hebrews a written Gospel in their own language, while Peter and Paul were evangelizing in Rome and laying the foundation of the Church.  After their departure, Mark, the disciple and interpreter of Peter, also handed down to us in writing what had been preached by Peter.  Luke also, the companion of Paul, set down in a book the Gospel preached by him.  Afterwards, John, the disciple of the Lord who reclined at his bosom also published a Gospel, while he was residing at Ephesus in Asia. (Irenaeus, Adversus Haereses, 3, 1, 1)

In other words, there is, we might say, a Standard of Roots (based on Sacred Tradition) by which the Church weighs her canon.  So when various other heretics, instead of trying to subtract from the generally received collection of holy books, instead try to add the Gospel of Thomas or any one of a zillion other ersatz works to the Church's written Tradition, the Church can point to the fact that, whatever the name on the label says, the contents do not square with the Tradition of the Church, so it must be a fake.  In other words, there is also a Standard of Fruits.  It is this dual standard of Roots and Fruits by which the Church discerns the canon -- a dual standard which is wholly based on Sacred Tradition.  The Church said, in essence, "Does the book have a widespread and ancient tradition concerning its apostolic origin and/or approval?  Check.  Does the book square with the Tradition we all learned from the apostles and the bishops they gave us?  Check.  Then it is to be used in public worship and is to be regarded as the word of God."

It was on this basis the early Church also vetoed some books and accepted others -- including the still-contested-by-some-Protestants deuterocanonical books of Tobit, Wisdom, Judith, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Sirach and Baruch as well as some pieces of Daniel and Esther.  For the churches founded by the apostles could trace the use of the Septuagint version of the Old Testament in public worship (a Greek translation of the Old Testament which includes all these books) back to the apostles. In fact, many of the citations of Old Testament Scripture by the New Testament writers are, in fact, citations of the Septuagint (see, for example, Mark 7:6-7, Hebrews 10:5-7).  Therefore, the Body of Christ living after the apostles simply retained the apostles' practice of using the Septuagint on the thoroughly traditional grounds, "If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for us."  In contrast, the churches had no apostolic tradition handed down concerning the use of, say, the works of the Cretan poet Epimenides (whom Paul quotes in Acts 17), therefore they did not regard his works as Scripture, even though Paul quotes him.  It was by their roots and fruits that the Church's books were judged, and it was by the standard of Sacred Tradition that these roots and fruits were known.

These Root and Fruit standards are even more clearly at work in the canonization of the New Testament, especially in the case of Hebrews. There was, in fact, a certain amount of controversy in the early Church over the canonicity of this book (as well as of books like 2 Peter, Jude, and Revelation).  Some Fathers, especially in the west, rejected Hebrews (in no small part because of its lack of a signature).  Yet the Church eventually accepted it.  How?  It was judged apostolic because, in the end, the Church discerned that it met the Roots and Fruits measure when stacked up against Sacred Tradition.

The Body of Christ had long believed that Hebrews said the same thing as the Church's Sacred Tradition handed down by the bishops.  Thus, even Fathers (like Irenaeus) who rejected it from their canon of inspired Scripture still regarded it as a good book.  That is, it had always met the Fruits standard.  How then did it meet the Roots standard?  In a nutshell, despite the lack of attestation in the text of Hebrews itself, there was an ancient tradition in the Church (beginning in the East, where the book was apparently first sent) that the book originated from the pen of St. Paul. That tradition, which was at first better attested in the east than in the west (instantaneous mass communication being still some years in the future) accounts for the slowness of western Fathers (such as Irenaeus) to accept the book.  But the deep-rootedness of the tradition of Pauline authorship in the East eventually persuaded the whole Church.  In short, as with the question of circumcision in the book of Acts, the status of Hebrews was not immediately clear even to the honest and faithful (such as Irenaeus).  However, the Church in council, trusting in the guidance of Holy Spirit, eventually came to consensus and canonized the book on exactly the same basis that the Council of Jerusalem promulgated its authoritative decree:  "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us..."

Conversely, those books which the Church did not canonize as part of the New Testament were rejected because, in the end, they did not meet both the Root and Fruit standards of the Church's Sacred Tradition.  Books like the Didache or the Shepherd of Hermas, while meeting the Fruit standard, were not judged to meet the Root standard since their authors were not held to be close enough to the apostolic circle -- a circle which was, in the end, drawn very narrowly by the Spirit-led Church and which therefore excluded even Clement since he, being "in the third place from the Apostles" was not as close to the apostles as Mark and Luke (who were regarded as recording the gospels of Peter and Paul, respectively). The Church, arch-conservative as ever, relied on Sacred Tradition, not to keep adding to the New Testament revelation but to keep it as lean and close to the apostles as possible.  This, of course, is why books which met neither the Root nor Fruit standards of Sacred Tradition, such as the Gospel of Thomas, were rejected by the Church without hesitation as completely spurious.

Not that this took place overnight.  The canon of Scripture did not assume its present shape till the end of the fourth century.  It was defined at the regional Councils of Carthage and Hippo and also by Pope Damasus and included the deuterocanonical books.  It is worth noting, however, that, because these decisions were regional, none of them were dogmatically binding on the whole Church, though they clearly reflected the Sacred Tradition of the Church (which is why the Vulgate or Latin Bible--which was The Bible for the Catholic Church in the West for the next 1200 years looks the same as the Catholic Bible today).  Once again, we are looking at Sacred Tradition which is not fully developed until a) the Reformation tries to subtract deuterocanonical books from Scripture and b) the Council of Trent in the mid-1500s finally makes that Tradition fixed and binding.  This is the origin of the myth that the Catholic Church "added" the deuterocanonical books to Scripture at Trent.  It is as historically accurate as the claim that the Catholic Church "added" opposition to embryonic stem cell research to its tradition during the pontificate of Pope John Paul II.

In summary then, the early Church canonized books because they were attested by apostolic tradition.  The books we have in our Bibles (and the ones we don't) were accepted or rejected according to whether they did or did not measure up to standards which were based entirely on Sacred Tradition and the divinely delegated authority of the Body of Christ.


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To: tenn2005; Salvation
"You need to check out the references. But you will not find a record of Christ giving Peter any keys in Acts."

Ah! I see your point. I was just quoting another poster (Salvation) who stated "And in the Acts of the Apostles, Christ gives the keys of the kingdom to Peter!"

You are correct. Thank you for pointing that error out.
201 posted on 02/06/2006 11:04:47 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: tenn2005

[Tenn, actually it wasn't PetroniusMaximus who gave the Acts of the Apostles reference for Peter and the "keys"; he was just quoting "Salvation"- see reply #38]

Yes, and in Matt. 28 Christ commanded the twelve to go to all the nations, make disciples, and "teach them to observe all things that I commanded you." I have the same responsibilities that Peter had, according to "the great commission."

Or so it seems to me. What do you think?


202 posted on 02/06/2006 11:05:49 PM PST by Mockingbird For Short (Why is there something rather than nothing?)
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To: sandyeggo; nickcarraway; Siobhan; Lady In Blue; NYer; american colleen; Pyro7480; livius; ...
This is a wonderful site for Catholic apologists when disicussing Scripture:

Scripture Catholic

203 posted on 02/06/2006 11:09:55 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Diego1618

I'm always suspicious of Wikipedia. I don't know, there's just something about that site. It's like ANYONE can write an article for them and be considered authoritative. How do they choose their authors?

Sorry, don't mean to be asking you to do the work. I'll go look and see if they say anything about that...


204 posted on 02/06/2006 11:11:05 PM PST by Mockingbird For Short (Why is there something rather than nothing?)
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To: Mockingbird For Short

I agree


205 posted on 02/06/2006 11:11:39 PM PST by tenn2005 (Birth is merly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: Mockingbird For Short; Diego1618

I second. Beware of Wikipedia.

It is run by libs and you will get burned using facts from there unchecked.


206 posted on 02/06/2006 11:13:15 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Buggman
Why does the title, "Holy Mother Church" make me feel sort of queasy?

I don't know much about the church of which he speaks (eastern orthodox?) (and I don't mean to be offensive but just to make a comment), but the title is scary... and borders on profane. The closest thing to a "holy mother" that I have would be the Holy Spirit who birthed me into the kingdom.

207 posted on 02/06/2006 11:24:17 PM PST by Mockingbird For Short (Why is there something rather than nothing?)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

You are more than welcome. I see a lot of lack of Bible knowledge on this site. Too many people want to quote some man rather than the Bible. It really doesn't matter what any "religious historian" thinks. What matters is what God said and people need to ignore their particular religious indoctronation and get their nose in the Bible.


208 posted on 02/06/2006 11:24:22 PM PST by tenn2005 (Birth is merly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: blue-duncan

Thanks for that post.


209 posted on 02/06/2006 11:28:20 PM PST by Mockingbird For Short (Why is there something rather than nothing?)
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To: whispering out loud

Constantine didn't "convert" to Christianity.
He co-opted it and buried it for 1200 years.


210 posted on 02/06/2006 11:53:21 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: NYer

I rejoice to understand how other believers are more fully sanctified in time through continuing faith.

The the case of the RCC, I understand how Scripture manifests a sanctification process for all believers in God through faith in Christ. Beginning with the mustard seed of salvific faith, the Holy Spirit grows that faith within us. As we remain in fellowship with Him, again through faith, that thinking in our souls is imparted to the spirit by the Holy Spirit to continue our sanctification. Again, through faith this occurs and is translated in the Greek as another form of faith, namely doctrine in our thinking or souls.

As the Church, or body of believers, all who are members of the royal priesthood of God through Christ, we continue to be sanctified through faith and doctrine.

Every believer has equal opportunity for continued sanctification. We are fortunate to have so much doctrine available to us today for our continued study, but just as our forefathers, that study and thinking must always flow through our continued fellowship with God through faith.

I rejoice when I observe indications that many RCC brethren and leadership continue to provide doctrine to their flock.

Those who become preoccupied in judging mistaken perceptions, easily fall out of fellowship, but those who remain in fellowship through faith, are not harmed by those pushing mistaken perceptions, rather their perseverence in faith will be counted for greater rewards at the bema seat.

I can understand how many might be divided in the title and many positions advanced in the article, but that is for nothingness. More blessed are those who remain perseverant in faith. I rejoice when I observe even indications that the perseverant remain in the Church, even when some advance false doctrines, which will not remove those who remain faithful to the Father through faith in Christ.


211 posted on 02/07/2006 12:24:10 AM PST by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: whispering out loud; sandyeggo
but you have nothing aside from Catholic writings proving that the catholic church picks up it's yoke directly from first generation apostles. You call Peter the first Pope, but there is no scripture supporting that. If there were scriptures to support that claim, wouldn't they have been included in the canonization of the scriptures?

Among Catholic doctrines, those pertaining to the papacy tend to be the most misunderstood and contested by non-catholics. The following verses show the biblical basis for Catholic teaching on the primacy of Peter, the office of the papacy being established by Christ and allusions to the doctrine of infallibility. These doctrines reached their full development in the life of the Church only after centuries of contemplation and study, in councils and through the actions of the popes. And we should never forget that since the Church is likened by Christ to a “mustart seed” that grows and develops organically from a speck into a large treelike plant, therefore we should not expect to see the Church’s doctrines fully developed and visible in its present form in the pages of the New Testament. What we do find in the New Testament though, is the scriptural record of Peter’s primacy among the Apostles and the seminal outlines of the doctrines pertaining to the papacy.

One compelling biblical fact that points clearly to Simon Peter’s primacy among the 12 Apostles and his importance and centrality to the drama of Christ’s earthly ministry, is that he is mentioned by name (e.g. Simon, Peter, Cephas, Kephas, etc.) 195 times in the course of the New Testament. The next most often-mentioned Apostle is St. John, who is mentioned a mere 29 times. After John, in descending order, the frequency of the other Apostles being mentioned by name trails off rapidly.

When the names of all the Apostles are listed, Peter is always first. Judas Iscariot, the Lord’s traitor, is always listed last (cf. Matt. 10:2-5; Mark 3:16-19; Luke 6:14-17; and Acts 1:13). Sometimes Scripture speaks simply of “Simon Peter and the rest of the Apostles” or “Peter and his companions” (cf. Luke 9:32; Mark 16:7; Acts 2:37), showing that he had a special role that represented the entire apostolic college. Often, Scripture shows Simon Peter as spokesman for the entire apostolic college, as if he were the voice of the Church (cf. Mat. 18:21; Mark 8:29; Luke 8:45; Luke 12:41; John 6:68-69).

PRIMACY OF PETER

212 posted on 02/07/2006 1:29:45 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer
It's still a jolt for some people to realize this, but the Bible did not fall down out of the sky

The Church that believes the bread and wine turns into the actual blood and flesh of Christ and yet does not believe that God gave us His word. Now that is what is surprising.

213 posted on 02/07/2006 2:17:12 AM PST by HarleyD ("Man's steps are ordained by the LORD, How then can man understand his way?" Prov 20:24)
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To: TexConfederate1861
Without the interpretation of the Holy Church, there is only chaos

why does the church limit God in this regard ?

214 posted on 02/07/2006 2:26:40 AM PST by Revelation 911 (God is love, Love endures forever, Love God, Love your neighbor, Vengeance is mine)
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To: sandyeggo
which was translated by St. Jerome, who was at Rome

I think he was in North Africa.

215 posted on 02/07/2006 2:44:28 AM PST by Diva
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To: sandyeggo
I won't even get into false claims of "worship" of Mary and the saints. That's been rebutted ad nauseam here. Your Catholic friends aren't Catholic if they claim to worship any but God.

Wow that was quick...didn't take the anti-Catholics long to swarm into this thread.

216 posted on 02/07/2006 2:48:10 AM PST by Diva
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To: Buggman

Hey Genius...I am Orthodox Christian. Rome is not my master. The Decrees of the UnDivided Church is what i refer to.


217 posted on 02/07/2006 3:37:01 AM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Ignatius was a Bishop. Endowed with the Holy Spirit, He was not inerrant, but he certainly had a closer understanding of the Savior than you or I.


218 posted on 02/07/2006 3:39:40 AM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: Mockingbird For Short

When I say "Holy Mother Church", I refer to the Undivided Church before 1054 AD. But nevertheless, BOTH the Roman Church and the Orthodox Church maintain the sacraments and the unbroken line from Christ to the present.


219 posted on 02/07/2006 3:46:34 AM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

That is just a crock.
Constantine is and was a Saint.


220 posted on 02/07/2006 3:48:13 AM PST by TexConfederate1861
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