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Vatican City, Mar. 20, 2006 (CNA) - In June Pope Benedict XVI will receive the final proposal from the recent Synod of Bishops for the drafting of his Post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation on the Eucharist. The commission of 12 cardinals and bishops from around the world, led by the secretary of the Synod of Bishops, Archbishop Nicola Eterovic, will meet in June to present the Holy Father a final proposal based on the 50 propositions that were made at the conclusion of last October's Synod.

According to a Vatican source, the commission will approve “a proposal and a plan for liturgical reform,” which will be made public in the Apostolic Exhortation that the Holy Father will tentatively issue in October.

The Vatican source said that the exhortation would include an invitation to greater use of Latin in the daily prayer of the Church and in the Mass—with the exception of the Liturgy of the Word—as well as in large public and international Masses.

The document would also encourage a greater use of Gregorian chant and classical polyphonic music; the gradual elimination of the use of songs whose music or lyrics are secular in origin, as well as the elimination of instruments that are “inadequate for liturgical use,” such as the electric guitar or drums, although it is not likely that specific instruments will be mentioned.

Lastly, the Pope is expected to call for “more decorum and liturgical sobriety in the celebration of the Eucharist, excluding dance and, as much as possible, applause.”

1 posted on 03/20/2006 7:50:56 PM PST by NYCCatholic
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2 posted on 03/20/2006 7:54:51 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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Beautiful! Thank you for posting.


3 posted on 03/20/2006 7:59:03 PM PST by Nihil Obstat ( Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner)
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But, according to some of the liberal Catholics, that's all the good stuff they're throwing out!


4 posted on 03/20/2006 8:12:53 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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The American liturgists have a lot of money at stake in the current translations, then constantly revolving misalettes, the crummy hymnals, and all the rest of it, and it seems as if the American bishops must have some stake in this too.

This is why they use the New American Bible translation rather than a decent text like the RSV--because the right people hold the copyright and get the royalties.

The same with the hymns. You can't copyright an ancient hymn or Gregorian Chant, but you can copyright and rake in money on all that 1960s schlock.

Pope Gregory will have is work cut out for him changing any of this. It's well known too that he would prefer to have the mass said by the priest facing ad orientem, but it would take a lot of head-knocking and grief to bring that back. Plus most parishes have junked the old altars, so they'd have to build them all over again.


5 posted on 03/20/2006 8:41:12 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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"Urge" or "encourage" is not going to cut it. Needs to be "command" and "mandate".

Or as St. Francis said of how his Rule was to be followed: "to the letter, to the letter, and without a gloss."


6 posted on 03/20/2006 8:46:25 PM PST by Theophane
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"as well as the elimination of instruments that are “inadequate for liturgical use,” such as the electric guitar or drums,"

It's all good but I am happy about the above because I complained about drums at a mass we attended months ago.

7 posted on 03/20/2006 8:50:26 PM PST by TAdams8591
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I hope my Bishop gets the memo! He recently commanded my priest to cease and desist using "extraneous " Latin in the Mass. :(


11 posted on 03/20/2006 9:30:21 PM PST by Americanchild (..and deliver us all from Islam! Amen!)
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There have been rumors about this since before the death of +JPII. I hope that those rumors will come true shortly.


20 posted on 03/21/2006 5:12:22 AM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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There is no reason at all why the Confiteor, the Gloria, the Credo, the Preface, the Pater Noster and the Agnus Dei should not be in Latin or the Kyrie in Greek.

Any Catholic who attends Mass every Sunday from childhood should be able to learn and sing these quite easily.

21 posted on 03/21/2006 5:21:26 AM PST by wideawake
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I have a friend who will love the "applause" thing. She hates it when people applaud at the end of a Mass.


22 posted on 03/21/2006 5:23:54 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Maybe next they could think about reinstating:
Kneelers,
Tabernacles within the area of the alter,
The Eternal Flame,
unleavened bread,

If your church has been built in the last 10 years and still has these things, consider yourself lucky!


23 posted on 03/21/2006 5:37:48 AM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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28 posted on 03/21/2006 6:11:47 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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as well as the elimination of instruments that are “inadequate for liturgical use,” such as the electric guitar or drums, although it is not likely that specific instruments will be mentioned.

I can't stand when the Vatican is ambiguous. If the Vatican does not define what is "inadequate for liturgical use" the current abusers of liturgical music will rationlize their way out of it and everything will continue as it was.

Not defining things = no one obeying.
34 posted on 03/21/2006 6:30:59 AM PST by mike182d ("Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?")
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Looks like the liturgy will "rise again from ashes" (to steal a line from one of the merrie melodies we are bombarded with this time of year).

Thank you, Papa Ratzi!


39 posted on 03/21/2006 6:39:28 AM PST by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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All I can say is: Please don't wait till October!!!!!

Since we're not allowed to use the "A" word during Lent, how about Laus tibi, Domine, Rex aeternae gloriae?

By the way, memo to one poster whose name I forget: the Pope is Benedict, not Gregory.

And isn't it amazing how converts, God love them and we all welcome them = but why do they waste time tracking down gossip about various people in and out of the Vatican and then violate charity by posting it?


41 posted on 03/21/2006 6:44:38 AM PST by TaxachusettsMan
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More Latin would be excellent and I agree that the readings should remain in the vernacular. If I read Scripture at home as part of my daily spiritual exercises, I read it in my mother tongue so there's no reason why I shouldn't be able to hear it in the same tongue at Mass.

However, there's one other thing which I'm looking for which will really show that the counter-revolution has begun in earnest and that is to turn the priest around and make him face away from the people and toward Jesus in the tabernacle. That one thing alone would do more to cripple the "I'm an entertainer" mentality so common among today's priests, than anything else of which I can think.

46 posted on 03/21/2006 6:57:48 AM PST by marshmallow
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The document would also encourage a greater use of Gregorian chant and classical polyphonic music; the gradual elimination of the use of songs whose music or lyrics are secular in origin,

Huzzah!!!!

as well as the elimination of instruments that are “inadequate for liturgical use,” such as the electric guitar or drums, although it is not likely that specific instruments will be mentioned.

Better be specific, Your Holiness. Give the "liturgists" a nanometer, and they'll take a lightyear.

47 posted on 03/21/2006 6:58:27 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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I saw a film last weekend called "Joyeux Noel" about the WWI Christmas ceasefire on the Western front. One scene included the French, German and Scottish soldiers attending an outdoor Mass, it was particularly enlightening and edifying to see them respond in unison "Et Cum Espiritu Tuo"....because the they all understood the language of the Mass.

The vernacular is all well and good, but for unity's sake more Latin trumps that.


55 posted on 03/21/2006 7:36:14 AM PST by Cheverus
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Some Latin set to return to Novus Ordo.

BABALU, MI JESUS!

84 posted on 03/21/2006 10:05:12 AM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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My parish is Harrisburg had some Latin for the first time in years. I spoke with our priest and praised him for it. His words were, "More to come".


102 posted on 03/21/2006 6:09:53 PM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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