Posted on 03/24/2006 11:55:00 AM PST by pulaskibush
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Hillary Clinton was caught stealing furnishings from the White House. That is against the 10 Commandments. She has also given false testimony "I can't remember" under oath.
She has no ground on which to stand and be critical.
I forgot to seperate this verse.
Did the Lord Jesus Christ legally emigrate to Egypt?
When did Christ visit Egypt?
Chapter 2, verses 13 through 23 ...
Ping for later
Christ was taken to Egypt as a child when Mary and Joseph fled the murderous Herod. Joseph did not violate any law in living in Egypt.
Since he was a very young child, I don't think he had much choice.
Are you sure? What do you know of Roman residency laws?
He was God Almighy however. Do you think anything was done to Him against His will?
Egypt was a part of Rome, as was Palestine. One of the great advantages of Rome at the time of Christ, and on into the first centuries of the Church, was freedom to travel, as well as safety from pirates at sea, and bandits on the roads...due to the legions' Pax Romana.
So yes, of course it was legal for Mary, Joseph and Jesus to go to Egypt...just as it was later fully legal for Paul to journey all over the Mediterranean. Not to be rude, frankly, if you know anything about the ancient world, its a kind of silly question.
Besides, even with modern nation-states, not empires, visas, passports, and residency laws are a very new phenomena--post WWI actually. 100+ years ago if a person traveled, since it was very expensive, they were generally treated as semi-nobility...and could come and go across borders as they pleased without any papers (unless it was a time of war).
"Hillary Clinton was caught stealing furnishings from the White House. That is against the 10 Commandments. She has also given false testimony "I can't remember" under oath."
Brother, you only scratched the surface.
Don't forget her cattle futures swindle and follow-up lies. How about how she slandered the White House travel staff and tried to put an innocent man in prision. And remember how she tried to channel up from Hell the ghost of Elanor Roosevelt?
19When Herod died, an angel of the Lord appeared in a dream to Joseph in Egypt and told him, 20"Get up and take the child and his mother back to the land of Israel, because those who were trying to kill the child are dead." 21So Joseph returned immediately to Israel with Jesus and his mother. 22But when he learned that the new ruler was Herod's son Archelaus, he was afraid. Then, in another dream, he was warned to go to Galilee. 23So they went and lived in a town called Nazareth. This fulfilled what was spoken by the prophets concerning the Messiah: "He will be called a Nazarene."
I'll admit that I should have said that "it does not appear that Joseph did not violate any law while living in Egypt".
Like I said Jesus never went to Egypt, he was taken there. Jesus did not become His own man to say until the age of accountability. Me taking a baby to the store is not the same as the baby going to the store by them selves.
He was God Almighy however. Do you think anything was done to Him against His will?
I thought that Jesus did the Fathers will. Not my will but thy will be done. The will of the Father not the will of the Son.
Ummm ... Jesus was first living in the Herodian protectorate, and was there because his parents were supposed to be getting enumerated and taxed.
Besides, even with modern nation-states, not empires, visas, passports, and residency laws are a very new phenomena--post WWI actually. 100+ years ago if a person traveled, since it was very expensive, they were generally treated as semi-nobility...and could come and go across borders as they pleased without any papers (unless it was a time of war).
I don't think we treated immigrants to this country as semi-nobility. And certainly all through the Christian era of Europe, pilgrim travellers came and went as they pleased, people settled in new lands in the East, etc. This simply goes to show that restrictions on emigration and immigration are a phenomena of the modern State, and not necessarily a natural power for a government. Our Constitution, in fact, gives Congress a power to "establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization", but not a power to restrict cross-border movement or immigration. As I said, the Declaration of Independence accuses King George of attempting "to prevent the Population of these States; for that Purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their Migrations hither".
I never said immigrants were treated like semi-nobility...rather travelers, and needed no paperwork.
Herod was a vassal king under Rome. Besides most all scholars say the holy family didn't flee until months or even a couple years after Jesus birth, right after the Magi came...surely they had already registered...and were not fleeing to avoid tax. Going to Egyptian province of Rome from the Judaen province was not illegal, surely.
As to the question of whether a nation-state has a right to protect its own borders, give me a break....you've been reading too many libertarian dreams (nightmares).
When I see crowds of protestors waving Mexican flags in the USA, it tells me these people are NOT here to become American, rather are wanting America to become Mexican...not the kind of immigrants we need.
Ask him when he comes back.
I thought he just left Chicago, and was headed for New Orleans.
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