ÈThis post is exactly what I was talking about, when I cautioned you against parroting stupid things liberals say.
>> So basically you are returning the slap on the cheek, as your post suggest? <<
Nothing Campion writes accuses Dan Brown of genocide, systematic destruction of dozens of other cultures, hiring murderers, etc. So how is Campion returning the slap on the cheek by defending criticisms of Brown?
>> And yes at some point in history, the church was an entity with those "qualities" [a group of sado-masochistic, murderous nutcases] you pointed in your post... <<
You claim that our religion was a group of sado-masochistic, murderous nutcases? Is that any way to make friends and influence people? Your claim is hateful, ignorant, slanderous, rash, and just plain belligerent. Why should we let you hang around with us? So you can demean our beliefs?
And then, after being so rude, offensive and obnoxious, you, of course, throw in the "Good afternoon" and "Best regards." How can you say, "Best regards," while demonstrating such a thorough contempt for the people you are writing to? ''
Okay so you are still stuck with the ideas that i am liberal??? Please review the other post i sent you...
And campion obviously doesn't accuse ban drown of genocide, but explained that he took pride and joy in expressing a strong criticism against the author, getting the slap back, even if it is of a lesser impact...but i wanted to see what he had to say about it...And obviously you are again only commenting on the negative side of my post without considering that i have acknowledged that other people gave me answers that already satisfied my curiosity...
And yes your/my religion has made BIG BIG BIG mistakes in the past (note i used the word PAST and i already told that this religion is now one of the most respected, man...) So yes the church has been really bad back in those days...killing anybody coming with an idea that the world was round, hordes of man fighting each other for the love of god...please read a bit of history! What is so wrong in what i am saying? the history remains history and yes the church made some really bad choices in the past, you know these are facts, not any kind of way to demean your belief!!!
And if i persist on my good afternoon and best regards, it is because we are over the Internet and to me this just seems like a discussion like any other...there is no hate or rudeness in my post such as what you claimed, you only see it that way ...you seem to think i am the devil!!!
You know i have belief too and i went through an educational system, and i can/am wrong in my posts, so no need to jump on your horse and scream names like these! Just tell me where i am wrong and that will be it! I never pretended i hold the only and single truth! As a saying: the wise man seeks the truth, the ignorant already found it...
Oh and by the way, i followed your tips and instead of going to Da vinci code, i went and saw: see no evil...that is a movie you would like best to bash on! The psychopath killer in that movie is a true catholic church believer and is sent from god to kill woman, as they have the evil in their eyes, so he removes it from the victims head...Did you heard of that movie?
So again, have a great afternoon and please accept my best regards!
>> Okay so you are still stuck with the ideas that i am liberal? <<
I did read your post. I was suggesting why you come across as a liberal, in spite of your assertion that you are not one: You repeat their baseless assertions.
>> What is so wrong in what i am saying? <<
What is wrong is that the specific accusations that Dan Brown has made are totally false. You have believed the liberal/anti-Catholic/anti-Christian lies. We can argue whether the 30-years War or the Crusades were just wars or not. And, just as liberals do now, partisans will exaggerate the evils of those wars to defame the decision to fight them. But the Catholic Church simply never did the outrageous things Brown has accused them of, and which you conceded to Brown as if they were factual; they go far beyond the worst slanders and contestable claims of the Protestant schismatic partisans, and invent whole new slanders from nothing, which slander Protestants as surely as they slander Catholics.
>> And if i persist on my good afternoon and best regards, it is because we are over the Internet and to me this just seems like a discussion like any other...there is no hate or rudeness in my post such as what you claimed, you only see it that way ...you seem to think i am the devil!!! <<
You disparage and slander our faith, repeating the most baseless, heinious, vicious lies, not out of malice, but willful ignorance. If you do not hold the hatred which Dan Brown evinces, then why do persist in repeating his lies?
>> You know i have belief too and i went through an educational system, and i can/am wrong in my posts, so no need to jump on your horse and scream names like these! Just tell me where i am wrong and that will be it! <<
I did. I even struck a conciliatory tone. And you disregarded me. I did call your claim "hateful, rude, ignorant," etc., because it is. If you do not mean to be those things, then I implore you to take more care.
If you have heard such claims before, and wish to hear what refutations exist, then by all means, ask someone! There are certainly some of us who would be very willing to explain the truth to you. But don't state such injurious and slanderous things as fact, just to find out our responses. Just ask.
My response to you was very strongly worded, and deliberately so, because the issue was that serious. Please note, I called your assertions "hateful," "rude," and "ignorant." Because they are. But please note, that I did not presume you to be hateful, rude or ignorant, in general. A hateful, rude and ignorant person does not intend to "make friends and influence" those he bears such hatred for. Rather, I warn you of the nature of the things you say because I presume that they are not true reflections of you. Because I presume you do not mean to be as offensive as you were being, I point out to you why what you say is so offensive.
I sense you concede such wickedness to the lies of Brown because you intend to be fair and even-handed. There is nothing fair about being even-handed between truth and goodness on one hand, and evil and lies on the other. Again, if you do not know the truth, ask, and we will tell you to the best of our own ability.
Be at peace (and that is not a mere politeness).
posted on 05/21/2006 3:43:31 PM PDT
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