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Pope Against Pop Music In Mass
Adnkronos International ^ | 06262006 | AKI

Posted on 06/26/2006 11:48:53 AM PDT by FJ290

Vatican City, 26 June (AKI) - Pope Benedict XVI has called for traditional sacred music to be played during mass, condemning the ongoing custom of contemporary music at religious celebrations. "Updating sacred music is possible, but this cannot happen unless it follows the tradition of Gregorian chants or sacred polyphony," the pontiff said on Sunday on the sidelines of a concert in the Sistine Chapel. A skilled pianist with a predilection for Bach and Mozart, Benedict XVI spoke against a custom reportedly appreciated by his more informal predecessor John Paul II, who worked very hard throughout his papacy to make the Church more appealing to the younger generations.

In an interview published in Turin-daily La Stampa on Monday, the former Archbishop of Ravenna, veteran Cardinal Ersilio Tonini also condemned the practice saying that "Benedict XVI is right, mass is a meeting with God and to meet God sacred music is better than the turmoil of electric guitars, hand clapping and the husstle and bustle of disorderly sounds."

Tonini said that 40 years ago after the Second Vatican Council "making mass more popular and inviting could be understood." However, the cardinal added, "we exaggerated and now I believe it is legitimate to consider as over this season of breaks with tradition."


TOPICS: Catholic; Worship
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To: humblegunner
Speed-metal? Heck, the Mass at my church rarely lasts longer than half an hour anyways, and that's with some music (although they don't sing the responsorial psalm here, which they did in my old parish. I kinda liked doing that).

I can't imagine speeding it up anymore!
121 posted on 06/26/2006 12:44:24 PM PDT by CT-Freeper (Said the perpetually dejected Mets fan.)
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To: Kenny Bunkport

In the word's of the great philosopher Hank Hill

Can't you see you're not making Christianity better, you're just making rock n' roll worse.

122 posted on 06/26/2006 12:44:45 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal
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To: Sergio
Holy Spirit in Montgomery AL. They have an awesome Life Team band.

My family is still in Alabama...I moved to Virginia for an assignment to the Pentagon.

123 posted on 06/26/2006 12:44:45 PM PDT by TankerKC (¿José puede usted ver?)
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To: TankerKC

Why do you like splitting up the family for Masses?? That's like having teens eat breakfast by themselves at 11:00 and dinner at 8:00...all without the parents....makes NO sense to me.


124 posted on 06/26/2006 12:45:03 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi; narses

"Ladies and gentlemen, Marty Haugen and David Haas
have left the building..."

125 posted on 06/26/2006 12:45:04 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Kenny Bunkport

Now THAT is a hymn. "This Is my Father's World" . . . "In the Garden" . . . now I'm getting mad 'cause I can't remember my old Rainbow Girls hymns.


126 posted on 06/26/2006 12:45:07 PM PDT by Xenalyte (The wages of sin are death, but after taxes are taken out it's just sort of a tired feeling.)
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To: billbears
That's right. Church (little c).

So, say my brother thinks that I'm a heretic, which church should we go to in order to settle our dispute? The one with thousands of contradictory doctrines?

Do you treat all Protestants as pagans or tax collectors then?

When it comes to someone who has no regard for Church authority, it's a shake the dust off your sandals thing.

127 posted on 06/26/2006 12:46:12 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: tbird5
I hate the old south, baptist type, music.

I don't care to hear it in church, but I do like to listen to bluegrass gospel music now and again. Its lyrics of simple faith and the dangers of sin are worthy of all Christians to be heard.

-ccm

128 posted on 06/26/2006 12:46:12 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: Xenalyte

Oh, man, "liturgical dance"! Thank you! Some years ago I had the pleasure of viewing a couple young, barefoot "earth mothers", dressed in long white gowns, holding ribbons, cavorting about.

I'll tell you, I hadn't chuckled quietly with so much pleasure in years. It was totally ridiculous. It seemed they were saying, "Look at us! We are praising God better than you are! Nyah, nyah!" It looked like flag corps tryouts for the high school band.


129 posted on 06/26/2006 12:47:28 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: FJ290
They aren't too mad at me. Traced back my family line and they came from French Hugenots, then Methodist. It's only been in the past 3 generations that they're Baptist. I see the denominations as a mess for the most part. If they believe and follow the basic principles of the New Testament, believe on Christ alone, and don't preach heresy (like same sex marriages, etc.) we're all good. And we'll all get there. IIRC, the Southern Baptists and Catholics had long going theological discussions about their general likenesses. A lot of the rest, not all though, is just denominational bantering about picky issues.

Have a good one

130 posted on 06/26/2006 12:47:35 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: FJ290
My church (not catholic) plays a bit of both.

I really don't have a lot of feeling about this one way or the other, although it's true: there seems to be a lot of me me me in some of the contemporary music. Also, some of the contemporary worship is so repetitive that it nearly puts me to sleep. The most egregious example of this is a song called 'Let it Rain.' Any pentecostals/AoG in here should know this one. That song drives me up the wall.

In my spare time, I listen to purely Christian music for entertainment, but it's generally of the hard rock variety. Not something I'd reccomend for church, but definitely good music for a good time that doesn't fill your mind with crap.
131 posted on 06/26/2006 12:48:08 PM PDT by JamesP81
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To: Military family member
IT is interesting that the Pope likes Bach and Mozart--two musicians who shattered the molds when its came to the music of their respecitve times. Both were considered extremely radical.

That's correct. If I recall right, there were riots in the streets after the premiere of one of Mozart's operas. The Altamont of its day.

-ccm

132 posted on 06/26/2006 12:49:34 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: TAdams8591

:-) Woo hoo!


133 posted on 06/26/2006 12:49:42 PM PDT by saveliberty (Dessert Cart Democrats - they ate their advantage. Now they are in trouble LOL)
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To: Suzy Quzy
Why do you like splitting up the family for Masses??

I never said that. However, if the choice is between the teen coming alone or not showing up at all...I'd rather that they come alone. Besides, if they come alone when they are 16, 17, & 18, they are setting up a good habit. They aren't going to be with mom and dad forever.

Any way, my kids prefer the Life Teen Mass, so we all go then...as a family.

134 posted on 06/26/2006 12:50:12 PM PDT by TankerKC (¿José puede usted ver?)
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To: FJ290

This is good to hear!!

Let's get back to the sacred music!!


135 posted on 06/26/2006 12:50:52 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: AnAmericanMother

LOL

I second that


136 posted on 06/26/2006 12:51:14 PM PDT by saveliberty (Dessert Cart Democrats - they ate their advantage. Now they are in trouble LOL)
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To: AnAmericanMother

They must have come out with some new G&P stuff...dont remember the focus on "I/me" so much from the 80s. Quite a few of the G&P I remember were direct from Scripture. Oh well... *grin*


137 posted on 06/26/2006 12:52:14 PM PDT by Alkhin (http://awanderingconfluence.com/blog ~ Tributaries)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Just don't make me eat lutefisk! ( please please please )

Served in Norwegian restaurant with mashed peas, potatoes and bacon.

Now come on, doesn't that look appetizing?

I'm sorry, that was mean. Couldn't resist the opportunity to tease you, LOL!

138 posted on 06/26/2006 12:52:14 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Right Wing Assault
The first time I saw liturgical dancers, all I could think of was Harry Shearer and Martin Short on SNL in 1984, with the mockumentary sketch about men's synchronized swimming.


139 posted on 06/26/2006 12:53:06 PM PDT by Xenalyte (The wages of sin are death, but after taxes are taken out it's just sort of a tired feeling.)
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To: Kenny Bunkport
Much of the contemporary music is great, but a lot of it is sentimental slop. I became a Christian in college, and attended a Baptist church where the worship music was from the hymnal, and I was exposed to the compositions of Isaac Watts, Charles Wesley, and Francis Ridley Havergal. A lot of the music in the hymnal was sentimental slop too, but much of the contemporary music amounts to "Jesus is my boyfriend, I love him so...", and this makes me cringe. A worship service shouldn't make people cringe.

I've noted similar things. There are some contemporary songs that speak to me. Days of Elijah is a good example. But some of that old music speaks to. When I Survey the Wondrous Cross is a good example.

Then there's contemporary music that makes me want to hide under the pew. We could do without a lot of that stuff. Alas, my old campus ministry when I was in college is hooked on some of the worst of that breed.
140 posted on 06/26/2006 12:53:46 PM PDT by JamesP81
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