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Noah’s Ark? For Real
World View Weekend ^ | June 16 2006 | Brannon S. Howse

Posted on 06/30/2006 6:50:20 AM PDT by markedmannerf

How many times have you yawned at the claim “Noah’s Ark Has Been Discovered”? Right, you say, and Elvis has been sighted again, too. People who hoped to find the famous vessel and the legendary voice have been pretty much in the same boat (so to speak)—No proof. Until today.

Led by explorer, adventurer, and featured Worldview Weekend speaker Dr. Bob Cornuke, a fourteen man crew returned this week from Iran bearing stunning evidence that theirs is the long-anticipated even coveted discovery of the remains of Noah’s Ark. Bob’s team consisted of a Who’s Who of business, law, and ministry leaders including Barry Rand (former CEO of Avis), the author and Christian apologist Josh McDowell, Frank Turek (co-author with Norm Geisler of I Don’t Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist), Boone Powell (former CEO of Baylor Medical Systems), and Arch Bonnema (president of Joshua Financial).

The unusual object is perched on a slope 13,120 feet above sea level. After studying the discovery site, Bonnema observed, “These beams not only look like petrified wood, they are so impressive that they look like real wood—this is an amazing discovery that may be the oldest shipwreck in recorded history.”

Reg Lyle, oil and gas geologist said “the object appears to be a basalt dike, however, it is absolutely uncanny that the object looks like hand hewn timbers, even the grain and color look just like petrified wood….I really need to keep an open mind about this.”

The team returned to the U.S. from rugged mountains in Iran with astonishing video footage of a monstrous black formation which looks like rock but bears the amazing image of hundreds of massive, wooden, hand-hewn beams. Could it be the lost ark on which two of every animal once sailed with their human rescuer?

(Excerpt) Read more at worldviewweekend.com ...


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KEYWORDS: ark; bible; iran; noahs; noahsark



1 posted on 06/30/2006 6:50:23 AM PDT by markedmannerf
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To: markedmannerf

Looks like rocks to me.


2 posted on 06/30/2006 6:53:09 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Jack Bauer" is Arabic for "I'm f*cked.")
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To: markedmannerf

I think people see what they want to see. Didn't they bring a geologist with them?


3 posted on 06/30/2006 6:54:24 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: markedmannerf

http://www.anchorstone.com


4 posted on 06/30/2006 6:54:59 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: markedmannerf
How could wood become petrified in just a few thousand years? Doesn't it take millions of years?

If this is the Ark, then I believe I saw the Andrea Doria sticking out of a hilltop in Kentucky along I-75.

5 posted on 06/30/2006 6:55:09 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: markedmannerf

What, no fossilized giraffe skeletons sticking out of a petrified hatch in the roof?


6 posted on 06/30/2006 7:01:46 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:6)
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To: CholeraJoe

almost petrified, but the top looks like wood.


7 posted on 06/30/2006 7:03:32 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: markedmannerf
I find this really interesting. If you showed me the first photo and asked, "What is that a picture of?", I would answer that it's a picture of some old beams.

Looking at the entire body of photos the site has posted though I think a healthy skepticism is a good idea here. I would love to know what a geologist thinks of this.

Thanks for the post.
8 posted on 06/30/2006 7:04:30 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: CholeraJoe
Perhaps they could use a geologist to tell them the difference between rock and wood but to claim the Ark is now Petrified is just ridiculous. Fools!
9 posted on 06/30/2006 7:05:52 AM PDT by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: CholeraJoe

Looks like shale to me.

If they want to verify it is petrified wood they must have brought samples, not just photos.

What was the level of scientific expertise (geology? archeology?) on the team...?


10 posted on 06/30/2006 7:19:08 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: silverleaf

Even if it is petrified wood, what makes it a boat?


11 posted on 06/30/2006 7:23:29 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Tokra
"How could wood become petrified in just a few thousand years? Doesn't it take millions of years?"

Under the right conditions, fossilization takes about 50 years.

For example, here is a fossilized hat:


12 posted on 06/30/2006 7:35:12 AM PDT by guitar4jesus (Black, Conservative . . . and I vote!)
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To: markedmannerf
Wouldn't the most likely disposition of the ark's timbers be that Noah's descendants would have carted them off as ready-made building materials? Isn't that why no one can find the ark, because it no longer exists in situ?

Of course, having thus opined, testing these formations will tell the tale....

13 posted on 06/30/2006 8:04:29 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

http://www.anchorstone.com/gallery/v/NoahsArk/?g2_GALLERYSID=b012f4b02241b27f3fd66a509362afc8


14 posted on 06/30/2006 8:21:49 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: markedmannerf; xzins; P-Marlowe; Revelation 911; Buggman; blue-duncan

Izzit built out of gopher barky barky?


15 posted on 06/30/2006 8:29:28 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: markedmannerf

Wood doesn't petrify when it's exposed on the surface of the earth.

Somebody is engaged in some very wishful thinking.


16 posted on 06/30/2006 8:34:12 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Corin Stormhands; markedmannerf; xzins; P-Marlowe; Revelation 911; Buggman

I think I saw a Unicorn peaking out of the larger crevasse in the second picture. Looks like there is a Puma in the crevasse right behind him or her, can't tell which.


17 posted on 06/30/2006 8:45:11 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: silverleaf
If not shale some kind of sedimentary rock formation.

However, when I was in Sunday School when I was six I was told the Earth was 6,000 years old. Thus the earth would now be 6,035 years old. What ever the case that wood up on that mountain sure does petrify much faster than they taught me in college Geology!
18 posted on 06/30/2006 9:06:36 AM PDT by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Thanks for the link. Very amusing. We'll see....


19 posted on 06/30/2006 9:08:32 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: markedmannerf
How many times have you yawned at the claim “Noah’s Ark Has Been Discovered”?

One more.

20 posted on 06/30/2006 9:38:03 AM PDT by Claud
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To: blue-duncan; xzins; P-Marlowe; Revelation 911; Buggman
I think I saw a Unicorn peaking out of the larger crevasse in the second picture.

My 6-year-old is very interested in reading non-fiction stuff. We're currently dealing with the whole evolution/dinosaur/millions and millions of years stuff.

Problem is getting to be that he can read when Mom and Dad change the text...

21 posted on 06/30/2006 9:54:08 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands; blue-duncan; xzins; P-Marlowe; Revelation 911; Buggman

I understand there never has been a good definition of "gopher wood."


22 posted on 06/30/2006 10:56:24 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

We are attuned to thinking of 6000 years in earth/human time.

What is the equivalent of 6000 earth years in "God time"?

http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia/Cosmos/CosmicMysteryTour.html


23 posted on 06/30/2006 10:58:47 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Corin Stormhands; xzins; P-Marlowe; Revelation 911; Buggman

"My 6-year-old is very interested in reading non-fiction stuff."

I always found when raising my two boys that a good historically accurate movie was always a good place to start to peak their interest. I would recommend one like Mel Brooks', "History of the World, Part I" or his and Carl Reiner's "Interview with the 2,000 year Old Man" for starters.


24 posted on 06/30/2006 11:00:30 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan; Corin Stormhands; xzins; P-Marlowe; Revelation 911
"One of you is going to betray Me."

"Who is it, Lord?"

"Judas!!"

"What?!?!"

"Would you like the mulled wine? It's stupendous!"

Just like in the Bible. ;-)

Thanks for the ping, guys. I've been following Cornuke's work for a few years now, and I'm looking forward to see what other information is forthcoming.

25 posted on 06/30/2006 11:20:40 AM PDT by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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To: bnelson44
Do skeptics ever bother actually reading an article before criticizing?
Reg Lyle, oil and gas geologist . . .

26 posted on 06/30/2006 11:21:58 AM PDT by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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To: silverleaf
If they want to verify it is petrified wood they must have brought samples, not just photos.

They did:

Even more intriguing, some of the wood-like rocks were tested just this week and actually proved to be petrified wood . . .

27 posted on 06/30/2006 11:23:18 AM PDT by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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To: markedmannerf

IF this is it that would be ironic and a wonder in itself. The secrets of the Bible hidden among those who do not believe. I read "The Gold of Exodus" which is what they think is most likely Mt Sinai not in Egypt and not in what was Egypt then the traditional site. It was more likely a true actual exodus into Iraq and a true crossing of the Red Sea at the Gulf of Aquaba. I have a CIA {not kidding} area satellite photo I can't link that shows the region and the shallowness of the Gulf at the point they think the crossing occurred. I'm keeping an open mind but the evidence they showed about MT Sinai IMO was convincing and more true to scripture than Constantine's declared location in the Sinai Peninsula which even at the time of the Exodus was still inside Egypt. The nation of Israel wandering 40 years in Iraq's wilderness? Very realistic.


28 posted on 06/30/2006 11:28:06 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: Buggman

You don't need to throw out insults. The geologist didn't go with them. He is commenting about the photos.



29 posted on 06/30/2006 11:30:28 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: cva66snipe
Correction a satellite photo of the Strait of Tiran. Look at this picture and the lower center is where the crossing likely happened. Not trying to get off subject but it's somewhat related. I hope this links up. When I first found a similar picture on the web it was labeled as a CIA photo. Why? Don't ask me.


30 posted on 06/30/2006 11:45:20 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: silverleaf
re 10: Right on. These pictures show tilted shale beds. You can see many similar examples throughout the Appalachian zone, from Vermont to West Virginia. Fossilized wood shows microscopic structures of the original cells from minerals slowly replacing the organic material. Shales derive from mud or silt deposits that were compressed and heated over millions of years. A microscopic examination of shales shows mineral grains, usually rounded by the stream tumbling that deposited them in a lake or delta.

Any geologist can quickly recognize that this rock is not from wood and is not related in any way to an 'ark'.

31 posted on 06/30/2006 12:02:33 PM PDT by thomaswest (Just curious.)
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To: Buggman
re 27: Even more intriguing, some of the wood-like rocks were tested just this week and actually proved to be petrified wood . . .

Ah, but this is a mere assertion. Where are the micrographs that show cellular structures as found in genuine petrified wood? In view of the fact that the pictures show commonplace weathered shale, complete with color variations on the surface due to mineral oxidation, that is so similar to hundreds or thousands of similar outcrops, the burden of proof lies squarely on the shoulders of the ark proponents.

32 posted on 06/30/2006 12:11:59 PM PDT by thomaswest (Just curious.)
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To: thomaswest
the burden of proof lies squarely on the shoulders of the ark proponents.

Indeed. What is a dead give-away is that people come out and say "we found the Ark!" Real archaeologists NEVER do that. They are even extremely reticent to identify prehistoric sites with historic cultures.

The proper response to a discovery like this...if it is ever made...is to say "we found the remains of a large ship dating from such-and-such an archaeological period".

Is it the ark? We would ask.

We don't know, they'd say in all honesty. Perhaps--it matches the size, time, and place--but we can't say for sure it is the same ship.

33 posted on 06/30/2006 12:47:28 PM PDT by Claud
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To: Claud

for reference


34 posted on 06/30/2006 1:28:04 PM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: xzins; blue-duncan

Definition of "gopher wood": what Vermonters do alot of in February.


35 posted on 07/01/2006 3:35:45 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: .30Carbine

LOL.

Some for us rural folks in S. Ohio.


36 posted on 07/01/2006 3:43:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: xzins

LOL and good morning!


37 posted on 07/01/2006 3:45:58 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

Speaking of 6000 years...

I thought you'd find this very interesting.
http://my.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20060701/44a5f340_3ca6_1552620060701-723814122

On the Roots of Mankind

"With the help of a statistician, a computer scientist and a supercomputer, Olson has calculated just how interconnected the human family tree is. You would have to go back in time only 2,000 to 5,000 years - and probably on the low side of that range - to find somebody who could count every person alive today as a descendant.

Furthermore, Olson and his colleagues have found that if you go back a little farther - about 5,000 to 7,000 years ago - everybody living today has exactly the same set of ancestors. In other words, every person who was alive at that time is either an ancestor to all 6 billion people living today, or their line died out and they have no remaining descendants.

That revelation is "especially startling," statistician Jotun Hein of England's Oxford University wrote in a commentary on the research published by the journal Nature.


38 posted on 07/01/2006 10:07:53 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Buggman

You do understand, do you not, that one cannot possibly be a real geologist and accept the biblical texts as authoritative and accurate at the same time? /s


39 posted on 07/01/2006 11:10:46 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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