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Make babies, not just love
Hindustan Times ^ | August 4, 2006 | Ramesh Babu

Posted on 08/03/2006 9:15:42 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth.

The Catholic Church in Kerala, concerned about the declining population of the community, will now ask the believers to embrace the Christian concept of sexuality that blends love and procreation. In other words, to have more children.

During the Mass next Sunday, a pastoral letter will be read out in all 26 dioceses in the state.

In the letter, Syro-Malabar Archbishop Cardinal Mar Varkey Vithayathil will remind the faithful of the need to lead a life rooted in Christian values and beliefs.

Also, to consider sex not only as an "instrument of pleasure" but also as "a tool to procreate".

Father Paul Thelekkat, spokesman of the Syro-Malabar Church, told the Hindustan Times: "There is a drastic fall in Christian population. The recently concluded synod of bishops had expressed serious concerns over the drastic fall in Christian population. So there will be some serious efforts to address this."

The letter says, "There has been a growing feeling that children are a nuisance to pleasurable life. Even those who have the resources do not beget for selfish reasons."

Blaming modern lifestyle for small families, the letter tells the congregation that if the situation continues, half the population will be grey by 2050.

The census figures and the falling attendance on Sundays have forced men of God to press the panic button. According to the 2001 census, the Christian growth rate came down to 19 per cent from 22 per cent.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; christianity; india; kerala
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1 posted on 08/03/2006 9:15:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: NYer

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2 posted on 08/03/2006 9:16:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I see nothing wrong with reminding people of this.....I wish they would also remind them of the great sacrifice of their sons becoming priests and nurturing that instead of "I want grandbabies" first and foremost.


3 posted on 08/03/2006 9:19:51 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: nickcarraway

Marriage vows:

Promise to give of oneself freely.

Promise to give of oneself totally.

Promise to give of oneself faithfully.

Promise to give of oneself fruitfully.

These are all questions asked by the priest during a marriage ceremony. I hope we all remember hearing them!


4 posted on 08/03/2006 10:40:06 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: nickcarraway; sandyeggo; Lady In Blue; NYer; american colleen; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ...
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5 posted on 08/03/2006 10:41:09 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

**I hope we all remember hearing them!**

And answering "I do" to all of them!!!!!!!!


6 posted on 08/03/2006 10:42:14 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: nickcarraway
. . . will now ask the believers to embrace the Christian concept of sexuality that blends love and procreation. In other words, to have more children.

This will put the Church at odds with the national population policy and Family Planning program mandated by the government of India and could lead to persecution by the government itself.

7 posted on 08/03/2006 11:01:55 PM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: Between the Lines

Did they consider the population of the country btw? India's population is blowing up. I hope whoever supports this will also be open to allowing immigrants to their countries from India.


8 posted on 08/04/2006 3:11:46 AM PDT by MimirsWell (Pakistaneo delenda est.)
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To: Salvation

Number 7 breaks out of the womb in November!

When our 4th was born we discovered a good line to use when people make odd comments about how many children we have, and we used it all the time:

"We like to think of [insert name of youngest child] as out middle child."

Finally that prediction will be true (but for how long?)


9 posted on 08/04/2006 3:50:24 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (OEF vet says: I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: Notwithstanding

"We like to think of [insert name of youngest child] as our middle child."


10 posted on 08/04/2006 3:50:57 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (OEF vet says: I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: nickcarraway
Also, to consider sex not only as an "instrument of pleasure" but also as "a tool to procreate".

How far we've fallen!

It's like going into a bulemics convention and asking people to consider eating, not only as an instrument of pleasure, but also as a means of nutrition.

11 posted on 08/04/2006 5:30:50 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: MimirsWell
There is no such thing as "overpopulation."

Julian Simon

12 posted on 08/04/2006 5:33:10 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Notwithstanding

congrats! Fr. Pacwa always says 7 is a good start.


13 posted on 08/04/2006 5:33:57 AM PDT by Nihil Obstat
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To: Notwithstanding
"We like to think of [insert name of youngest child] as out middle child."

Love it! LOL! I wish I could see the faces 8-)

14 posted on 08/04/2006 5:34:06 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Between the Lines; MimirsWell

Kerala has had a very low birth rate by Indian standards esp for the Hindu & Christian communities for over 30 years,so this is not alarming by national standards.Besides,most members of the Syro-Malabar church are relatively well-off & can provide for more children than the poorer folk seen in central or Northern India.The problem that these folks are not addressing is the high rate of migration to the Persian Gulf,Europe & America over the past 30 years which has led to considerable fall in population.


15 posted on 08/04/2006 5:34:09 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Between the Lines

I have to agree, at least halfway. With India poised to overtake China as Most Populous Country, asking people to have MORE childern strikes me as misguided.
This planet already holds over 6 BILLION people and we can see the problems only too well.


16 posted on 08/04/2006 5:39:28 AM PDT by PandaRosaMishima (she who tends the Nightunicorn)
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To: Nihil Obstat; Notwithstanding
Fr. Pacwa always says 7 is a good start.

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Funny. My husband grew up with a friend who came from a family of 13 children.

17 posted on 08/04/2006 5:43:53 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Notwithstanding

Number 7 breaks out of the womb in November!

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Congratulations! We need more good people in the world!

Considering your choice of words, though, as one who has given birth, I winced. You must be the father. :-)

Love the great comeback!


18 posted on 08/04/2006 5:44:57 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: PandaRosaMishima

See post #12.


19 posted on 08/04/2006 5:46:07 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: Salvation

Big families are wonderful. A lot of lessons are learned by a child who has to share and has to pull his weight to help out instead of being treated as a cute little poodle that one dresses in the latest designer clothes.


20 posted on 08/04/2006 5:48:10 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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