Posted on 11/02/2006 3:32:50 PM PST by Sopater
And the orthodox churches continue to wonder why they are hemorraging members.
Does anyone have a feeling that the world is going crazy?
Hey, maybe that stuff in the Bible was just a botched joke that the Jews and Christians were too dumb to get.
meant to say episcopal, not orthodox.
Interesting comments.
First, let me pose a question. About 25 percent of the world's population says it's Christian. (We won't debate teh merits of that claim for teh moment.) Do you believe that God condemns 75 percent of God's creation?
Nw, as to homosexuality not being a choice: the whole case for homosexuality being genetic and immutable is based on a phony study years ago with bad methodology that showed that if a man was homosexual, his identical twin was homosexual 50 percent of teh time.
Now, if it were purely genetic that number would be 100 percent, wouldn't it? (Taht's assuming the methodology is valid.)
Now, I do believe that there may be a genetic factor, i.e., a predisposition that only some people have, without which you don't become gay. But I also believe that environmental factors, upbringing, and other choice factors contribute to the person actively becomeing homosexual. Nobody would choose it consciously, perhaps, but we all make a lot of subconscious choices all the time.
And teh fact that certain people who were active, practicing homosexuals have been able to become active, practicing heterosexuals, with no further homosexual urges (according to them) shows that choice is at least a major factor in homosexuality.
FYI
It is?
Okay, everyone... ~ Kumbaya Oh Lord, kumbaya ~ ...
As predicted.
"Jefferts-Schori says she views salvation as the healing of all Creation through holy living. "I understand salvation as being about the healing of the whole creation. Your part and my part in that is about holy living,"
I find it fascinating that this raging heresiarch can, here and there, recite fundamental points of orthodox Christianity, like what I have snipped above. "Salvation" as the West puts it, is indeed for all Creation because all Creation is distorted by the accumulated weight of sin since the Fall. It is as deformed as we are by our sins....But then she goes off the rails. I have wondered about this since I started reading what she has said or written. I found it odd that a woman who indeed does have a grasp of Patristic theology could otherwise be so wrong. Then I remembered this:
"Just as the fishermen hide the hook with bait and covertly hook the fish, similarly, the crafty allies of the heresies cover their evil teachings and corrupt understanding with pietism and hook the more simple, bringing them to spiritual death." +Isidore of Pelusium in his letter to Timothy the Reader.
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Even if not, the homosexual community at large sure does. The right to promiscuity is their chief sacrament. No one has the right to "box" them into be committed.
Katharine Jefferts-Schori = apostate heretic
I really can't believe what I'm reading. She's a heretic and the next presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church of America.
Maybe she'd like to become a Druid priest-ess like the Archbishop of Canterbury did before taking office?
"Does anyone have a feeling that the world is going crazy?"
Going? How about "gone?"
Homosexual activity is always a choice, and a choice for sin.
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