Which One God ? ( Comparing the Christian and Muslim Conceptions of God ).

National Review ^ | 12/04/2006 | Bat Yeor

[rovenstinez]

I've been told that in the Gospels, when JEsus was praying on the cross, it is translated in the Arabic versions that he called out to Allah.

[Paloma_55]

It all comes down to whether you believe God is offering salvation through repentence or by your willingness to cut somebody's throat.

[Biggirl]

In truth the Isa of Islam could very much be the anti-Christ of the Bible.

[John Philoponus]

Actually there's more to it than that. It really comes down to : Do you believe heaven is a celestial whore house, where Allah's houri/daughters spread their legs to faithful jihadi murderers who killed their way into heaven? If you do, you're a muslim. If you don't, you're a sane infidel.

[Red Badger]

Simple, our God is Love, Their god is HATE!.............

[silverleaf]

It also depends on whether you believe God would send a son, born as a peasant to live among peasants and raise them to the same status as every human on earth who accepts God - and would in essence live among us to save us -

or whether God would NEVER deign to lower himself to such a humble act (not much humility about this Allah personage) - and who demands that humans commit acts such as throat slitting and mass murder of infidels (lesser humans), to try and exalt themselves to gain the favor of a very harsh master who rewards them with slaves and virgins in heaven.

[Vaquero]

" Sir, please do not offer my god a peanut " Apu Nahasapeemapetilon

[Squidpup]

For the eschatologically inclined, here is a phenomenal resource that will shake/shape your views:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/index.htm

"So in summary we conclude this section with a final review of the many startling similarities that exist between the biblical narrative of the last-days and the Islamic narrative of the same period.

· Bible: The Antichrist is an unparalleled political, military and religious leader that will that emerge in the last-days.

· Islam: The Mahdi is an unparalleled political, military and religious leader that will emerge in the last-days.


· Bible: the False Prophet is a secondary prominent figure that will emerge in the last-days who will support the Antichrist.

· Islam: the Muslim Jesus is a secondary prominent figure that will emerge in the last-days to support the Mahdi.
...."

"When I first began to become acquainted with Islamic eschatology and the many similarities between the biblical Antichrist and the Islamic Mahdi, I was quite taken back. But as I began to see that these similarities extended far beyond just the Mahdi and the Antichrist, I knew that this subject merited a comprehensive study. I had to “see just how deep this rabbit hole goes.” As the similarities between the two eschatological systems fell in line, one subject after another, my personal conclusion was that these numerous similarities were not mere coincidence..."

This is not a sensationalistic treatment of the subject, it is very sober, thorough, and challenging. Enjoy.

[SirLinksalot]

It also depends on whether you believe God would send a son, born as a peasant to live among peasants and raise them to the same status as every human on earth who accepts God - and would in essence live among us to save us

If God Sending His Son to come to earth is a test of similarity, then how can we as Christians say that we worship the same God as the Jews who REFUSE to recognize this ?

Yet, inspite of this dissimilarity, I do not believe Christians would say that Jews worship a different God.

[rabscuttle385]

"The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full. I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep."
John 10:10-11, NIV

My mom (before she was called home last year) taught me that the signs of the Enemy's actions are theft, death, and destruction.

Seems like Islam meets all the criteria.

The followers of Islam are merely the physical servants of "the powers of this dark world and spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms" (see Ephesians 6:12, NIV).

They aren't the only evil army in town; they have allies throughout the Western world.

[fox martyr son]

I would say that the Jews worship a pagan diety named Jehovah.
If one doesn't have the Son; one doesn't have the Father.

[taxcontrol]

My God is all powerful, all knowing and intolerant of sin. He moves in the daily lives of individuals and the power of his message of love and forgiveness is simply told and believed ... needing no forced conversion.

Their god (small g intended) is so weak and their message so powerless as to require a man to kill another man if he does not believe in their moon god death cult.

[A. Pole]

He stresses as fundamental the Koran’s teaching that Islam is the first, primordial religion, preceding Judaism and Christianity, which are dismissed as invalid traditions, being falsified versions of Islam. Because Christianity and Judaism are thought to be a corruption of the pure message of Islam, anything true in these religions comes from their Islamic roots. Consequently, to obey their true religion, Jews and Christians should “revert” to Islam and accept the prophethood of Muhammad.

Important to remember.

[zimdog]

I would say that the Jews worship a pagan diety named Jehovah. If one doesn't have the Son; one doesn't have the Father.

Was Rabbi Jesus worshipping a pagan deity?

[zimdog]

Sounds like Christians' attitude towards Jews from the 4th through mid-20th century.

[Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin]

Is God Allah?

Let's see. Um...um...um...um...

No.

[tx_eggman]

I would say that the Jews worship a pagan diety named Jehovah.
If one doesn't have the Son; one doesn't have the Father.

Tell me please then, who were these folks:

And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, David, Samuel and the prophets, who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies.

Women received back their dead, raised to life again. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection.

Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison. They were stoned; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword.

They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated— the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground.

These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.

Hebrews 11:32-40

[pgyanke]

Jesus is God's Messiah who was foretold throughout the Hebrew Scriptures. Many Jews recognized Him... many did not. Christians and Jews do not worship a different God, we worship the same God with a different understanding.

[Capt. Tom]

Yet, inspite of this dissimilarity, I do not believe Christians would say that Jews worship a different God.

I don't know any Jews who think Jesus is the son of God, and would worship Jesus.

It is a fundamental for a Christian to believe Jesus is the son of God.

The Muslims don't believe that, and neither do the Jews, so different Gods are involved. - tom