Posted on 01/08/2007 5:34:25 PM PST by dcnd9
Well, I guess it can join all the other movies titled "Deliver Us From Evil". I wonder how they can keep repeating the name?
Wow...that was about the most non-productive, commercial post I've ever seen on FR.
Really glad you're posting commercials. Did you at least get compensated by the producer?
I saw the trailer for this move today. It is sad to say that such a productive documentry was turned into a Catholic bashing session. I will not see the movie.
And it certainly goes a long way in explaining why it is so difficult to correct the entrenched errors of the Roman church.
FYI, it's not for young children.
And I see the RCs are already howling in denial.
The first rule of being a Catholic seems to be circle the wagons and never admit a problem exists.
What is remarkable is that such a person would want to participate in this movie. I wonder if the Catholic Church is still offering him communion?
Or pro-abortion, I mean murderous politicians.
Of course we're just heratical Calvinists, what do we know?
Always, the new parish had no idea of O'Grady's history or the numerous charges against him. Over and over the criminal pattern would be repeated. And always with the clear knowledge of the RCC hierarchy, as the documentary illustrates from the damning evidence.
At the end of the DVD O'Grady's interviewed in Ireland where he was finally sent after serving seven years in jail. In Ireland he still receives his "pension" from the church so I would guess he still receives communion.
His victims are left with broken promises and broken lives.
O'Grady is obviously mentally-ill. But as the documentary shows, the church's denial of this, its sympathy and real empathy for this pervert, its elevation of this pervert, and its black-hearted protection of this pervert is what is truly astounding.
From the very pinnacle of the church, no less.
Rev 20:12 “And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.”
And once his superiors knew, how long was he allowed to continue to OFFER communion to others?
The depositions by Mahoney from current lawsuits were from 2005. They're STILL playing dumb, deaf and blind.
At one point the DVD mentions that President Bush gave Ratzinger a pardon on all future lawsuits. That certainly caught my eye. I'd never heard that before.
No one denies the abuse of these priests. What isn’t surprising is your blindness to the Hollywood’s agenda against the Catholic Church, which is often the only one standing up aginst their secular agenda. You’ll use anything to further your little cause.
I find myself asking the air, “How can the Catholic Church claim Apostolic Authority when such evil is so entrenched and protected within the Chruch?” I suppose I should just shut up that inner voice and thank God for Luther.
My own experience with the clergy in my Catholic school days is a bit different than as described here. And maybe it really is the same thing, I don't know, but it seems to me that the operating principle was one of both loyalty and the path of least resistance.
In the mid-sixties, if you hit a nun or a priest you were expelled, immediately. That nun or priest could have done whatever he or she wanted to you, and the presumption of guilt was always directed away from them and on to you.
And, so, it would inevitably devolve into a situation where it was the word of the laity, or the child of a member of the laity against the nun or priest. That was not a contest a lower-class kid was going to win. I would imagine if you had a fat wallet and some influence and went to the bishop and said, either you act against this beastliness or I'm withdrawing endowments, etc. you might get some satisfaction. And the money thing is probably a problem in many a church outside the Catholic church too, I should think.
I do think the pederasty scandal brought out people who probably had no legitimate claim, and the Catholic church certainly can't be blamed for trying to ferret out which allegations were true and which were false. I've some experience w/being touched and dealt with in an inappropriate manner, still and all, if someone were accusing any member of my family of same, I'd want more than just their word.
The pederasty problem of the RCC wasn't so much that pederasts were in its midst, but that they really hadn't a clue as to how to deal with it.
Don't know if you remember or not, but when the zero tolerance thing was convened in Texas, governor Keating of Oklahoma was on some panel to help oversee and/or navigate the conference. He resigned after about a week or so. I would imagine that he did so because he didn't want his name linked with efforts that were so manifestly lacking.
Rod Dreher, columnist for one of the Dallas papers, chronicled this whole thing, and ended up converting to Eastern Orthodoxy. And I think the reason that he did is that he realized that if it had been on of his own kids who suffered at the hands of these priests, he would have not been able to resolve a thing.
The Catholic laity, supine as it, by design, seemed more concerned about how this made the churuch look, than the lifelong damage the actions of these priests caused. It's like the Reparations thread you saw here during Lent that showed such a bunker mentality. The Reparation thread was like going to confession and confessing someone else's sins: 'don't bless them Father, for they have sinned.' It's been never since their last confession and since then they've disagreed with me 6 times, with pluck, mind you, and they just really got under my skin.' Was a Reparation thread posted during the pederasty scandal? I can't say for certain, but I think not.
You would think that amidst such anguish and horror, that JPII or even the current Pope might just want to call these kids to Rome, so that he could put his arounds them and suffer with them, as any Good Shepherd should want to.
It’s been there since the beginning. Judas Iscariot betrayed Our Lord, and St. Peter denied Him.
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