Posted on 02/03/2008 7:45:23 PM PST by Terriergal
“Evangelicals are going to vote this year in part on climate change, on Darfur, on poverty,” said Jim Wallis, the author of a new book, “The Great Awakening,” which argues that the age of the religious right has passed and that issues of social justice are rising to the top of the agenda. Mr. Wallis says that about half of white evangelical votes will be in play this year.
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Look, I don’t agree with evangelicals on theology or on their typically conservative views on taxes, health care or Iraq. Self-righteous zealots like Pat Robertson have been a plague upon our country, and their initial smugness about AIDS (which Jerry Falwell described as “God’s judgment against promiscuity”) constituted far grosser immorality than anything that ever happened in a bathhouse. Moralizing blowhards showed more compassion for embryonic stem cells than for the poor or the sick, and as recently as the 1990s, evangelicals were mostly a constituency against foreign aid.
Yet that has turned almost 180 degrees. Today, many evangelicals are powerful internationalists and humanitarians — and liberals haven’t awakened to the transformation. The new face of evangelicals is somebody like the Rev. Rick Warren, the California pastor who wrote “The Purpose Driven Life.”
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Kinda like Bill Clinton's "I feel your pain!"
And thus the support for Elmer Huckabee
yup!
Well it sure helps fleece the masses when Mr Popularity Rick Warren has that nice statement about the Huckster on the Mike Huckabee website...
Dr. Rick Warren Statement
by Team Huckabee:
http://www.mikehuckabee.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Blogs.View&Blog_id=658
And here’s the guy who herded the gullible “religious leaders” together to hear him preach his “sermon” which got the latest round of “crisis mongering” started:
The “Reverend” Sir John Houghton, former head of the UK Meteorological Office, Publisher of Al Gore’s book on GW and Former Co-Chair of the IPCC:
“Unless we announce disasters, no one will listen”
Some call that, “Lying for Jesus”. I would agree.
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Public radio interview with the Reverend Richard Cizik [a trained political scientist and vice president in Washington for the National Association of Evangelicals]
Key excerpt:
Ms. Tippett: You have become quite a spokesman for Evangelical Christian concern about the environment. And, you know, I wonder if that’s something that surprises you. Is that something that’s on your agenda, that’s on the Evangelical Christian agenda that you would not have imagined there 25 years ago or even…
Rev. Cizik: I would have never imagined it. I just would have to say I had a conversion.
Ms. Tippett: Well, tell me about that.
Rev. Cizik: Not just to Christ, you see, many, many years ago. But in 2002, I had a conversion to the science of climate change. ....
Ms. Tippett: Well, tell me about your conversion experience in 2002. ...
Rev. Cizik: First of all, I met great men of science who, like Sir John Houghton, knighted by the queen, the head of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, who came forward and said to me, “You can believe in the science and be a faithful biblical Christian, and I am,’ he said. And so in a humble way, not arrogantly, admitting the questions that still exist, John Houghton and many others, for three days, walked some of us that were there in Oxford, England, through all the science, through our biblical teaching and responsibility, and all I can say is, in a John Wesley kind of fashion, my heart was warmed. My heart, you know, was changed...”
http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/programs/evangelicalevolution/transcript.shtml
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“This is going to be an issue which evangelicals are going to look at when they cast their ballots,” Cizik said. ..” But only Republican former Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas otherwise considered among the more conservative candidates in the race has explicitly aligned himself with the creation care movement. ..” [The Reverend Richard Cizik ] Much more: “God is Green”
11/06/2007 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21656644/
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From Gribbit: “The conclusions of the IPCC Summary Report were determined before the study even began. The idea was to make it the “Final Word” on global climate change. The reason for making it the “Final Word” was that by using that terminology, they had hoped that the public would take their bait hook, line, and sinker and they could get the political changes that they want. Yes I said political changes.” See more Gribbit Tidbits
http://www.gribbitonline.com/2007/02/15/why-you-shouldnt-believe-the-global-warming-scare/
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“The evolution of the scientific debate about anthropogenic climate change illustrates both the value of skepticism and the pitfalls of partisanship.”.. Scientists ... reputation for impartiality is severely compromised by the shocking lack of political diversity among American academics, who suffer from the kind of group-think that develops in cloistered cultures. Until this profound and well documented intellectual homogeneity changes, scientists will be suspected of constituting a leftistthink-tank.” “On the left, an argument emerged urging fellow scientists to deliberately exaggerate their findings so as to galvanize an apathetic public...” ~ Kerry Emmanuel - MIT
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“No matter if the science is all phony, there are collateral environmental benefits…climate change provides the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world” Christine Stewart, former Canadian Environment Minister bttt
The church as a social agency, not speaking about the remedy to sin, God’s wrath and the way to salvation. Yup, sounds liberal to me.
Worldlings such as the author of that article think the church ought to support socialism in order to prove its love for the poor. Churches that hold fast to the Scriptures and do the good works on ministry don’t get credit unless they hook up with a socialist government agency - because any outfit that proclaims Christ as it lends a hand cannot be trusted by these worldlings. They can’t understand the redeemed in Christ and we should not be their friends.
AND we are to do our good works so as not to be acclaimed by men — therefore you WON’T see it on the news what good works the church is doing in its day to day ministry.
yup.
Funny even the seculars are noticing now...but as usual evangelicals are about 10-20 years behind the curve.
You have GOT to be kidding me!
If the world loves you, you’re probably not an evanglical.
Unfortunately I think the common understanding of evangelical has changed to ‘worldly person who calls themselves ‘christian.’’
I think I’m a fundamentalist according to Rick Warren’s (*and most of America’s) view.
“You have GOT to be kidding me!” ~ Terriergal
I wish I was. Huckabee “experienced” a conversion, too.
NY Times
Friday 11 March 2005
“.. Mr. Cizik said he had a “conversion” on climate change so profound in Oxford that he likened it to an “altar call,” when nonbelievers accept Jesus as their savior. Mr. Cizik recently bought a Toyota Prius, a hybrid vehicle. “ http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/37/9554
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Oct. 2006
“..Cizik dates his “conversion” to 2002, when evangelical left activist Jim Ball of the “What Would Jesus Drive” anti-SUV campaign “dragged” him to Oxford, England, for a global warming summit featuring scientist and Christian thinker John Houghton. “I had, as John Wesley would say, a ‘warming of my heart,’ Cizik recalls. “A conversion to a cause which I believe every Christian should be committed to.”
After his Oxford conversion, Cizik returned home, sold his gas guzzler, bought a Prius, and renewed his interest in recycling. He notes that evangelicals comprise 40-50 percent of the “Republican base” and Republican politicians, who “have stymied action on climate change, will “have to listen” if evangelicals become as passionate as Cizik is about climate change.
Promoters of The Great Warming are hoping that other evangelicals will have dramatic conversions to the global warming cause.like Cizik. No doubt, many of these new enthusiasts for the planet are full of passionate sincerity. But some seem to see acceptance of disastrous scenarios of global warming, fueled exclusively by human activity, as almost an article of faith, transcending need for logical argument. For them, it has become intrinsically a struggle between noble friends of the earth and wicked allies of the fossil fuels industry. They have adopted climate activism as a new crusade.
Evangelicals are more famous, or notorious, for preaching about the impending End Times. At least that old kind of preaching pointed listeners towards repentance...and God. This new mode of climate revivalism points evangelicals towards a very differently kind of imagined apocalypse, in which the solution is not divine intervention but increased government regulation, reduced standards of living, diminished national sovereignty, and enhanced powers for international bureaucracies. That Old Time Religion now looks more appealing, because it involves God.
Frontpagemag.com. http://vacoalblog.blogspot.com/2006/10/boo-just-in-time-for-halloween-folks.html
I hadn’t known about Huckabee’s ‘conversion’ to liberalism either. I thought it just came natural. ;-)
I’m here to tell you, these apostates are addicted to the “rush” of breaking Biblical barriers.
We are going to see more and more extremism from them.
What they have done so far is just the beginning.
yup.
I hear ya. It’s amazing how many people did not see this coming from such a ‘nice man’ like Rick Warren. They completely lack the ability to discern the truth from the lie in his message. This has been building for decades (since he started his church out there by “walking in the counsel of the wicked.” (Psalm 1)
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