Posted on 04/03/2008 6:23:19 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
Maybe he likes listening to the Baptist minister’s sermons and enjoys being with the people who are members. I have no problem with his being an Episcopalian. Does he attend a church in the Washington, D.C. area?
>Raised Episcopalian, McCain now attends a Baptist megachurch in Phoenix. But he has not been baptized...
Raised Episcopalian, but not baptized as an infant? Ha! Raised by false convert parents. Pedo’s? You got anything to say about that?
Attends a Baptist Megachurch? A Baptist church not dunking the guy? Do they think he is unregenerate, and do not want to do it for that reason?
If not then, any Baptist church worth its tithe should be pushing for BAPTISM, or disciplining him.
I just wiped out my comment regarding lord McCain, because I do NOT want to upset the lord McCain worshipers who need to post vanities demanding some of US to bend a knee to him.
Christ said you will know people by their fruit.... enough said. I did not think it 'Christian' compassionate for lord McCain to call Dr. Dean of the DNC a 'pig' this morning. I remember that lord McCain did NOT mind or reject lord JFKerry's besmirching of the Vietnam soldiers, but noooooo body ever better say one thing that even hints upon the 'service' being used as vehicle to parlay said service as path to the White House....
That same quote jumped right out at me.
Wonder if the paper misspoke and was referring to a Baptist baptism....
Did Jonathan Martin write a story or a pro-McCain editorial? What a puff piece!
Frankly, I don’t care what religion someone is.
If atheist can represent my political views, I’ll vote for him. (It’s a two kingdoms thing)
There are several “Christian” pastors who I would not even sit under on Sunday morning, much less vote for.
Huckabee is one I would not vote for.
religion should not be a part of secular politics.
McCain is definitely not part of a church that preaches, “God D*mn America, God D*mn White people”.
You'll be happy to know that "thou shalt not kill" and "thou shalt not steal" will no longer be part of the "secular" legal system then. Enjoy your citizenship, comrade!
Exactly. That's how we know that all people are sinners. Even the "baptized" ones.
When they "repent", the focus for baptised Christians that view themselves as "basically" good will be found on what they "DID" wrong.
When they "repent", the focus for baptised Christians that view themselves as NOT "basically" good will be found on what they "ARE" which RESULTED in what they did wrong.
Into which catagory do you think the most biggoted (such as we've already seen on this thread) legalistic "baptised" Christians would fall?
BTW - what do you think of THIS GUY'S fruit? bttt
So McCain isn’t making religious appeals on the campaign trail, is that really a problem? I don’t want the president to be the preacher-in-chief, so McCain not talking about his faith doesn’t bother me. Maybe some religious conservatives will decide that this means he’s insufficiently Christian (I seem to recall Fred Thompson getting those accusations), but I’d suspect such folks would come to the same conclusion about most politicians, Republicans included. I’d also rather McCain not talk about it than try to fake religious fervor he doesn’t have. Some people are more reserved in their faith than others, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
But, but, but, as long as he's a Christian why would you care that he governs (and thinks?) like a Marxist/Leftist Christian?
Mark Steyn on Huckabee: “...Where I part company with Huck’s supporters is in believing he’s any kind of solution. He’s friendlier to the teachers’ unions than any other so-called “cultural conservative” which is why in New Hampshire he’s the first Republican to be endorsed by the NEA. His healthcare pitch is Attack Of The Fifty Foot Nanny, beginning with his nationwide smoking ban. This is, as Jonah Goldberg put it, compassionate conservatism on steroids big paternalistic government that can only enervate even further “our culture.” So Iowa chose to reward, on the Democrat side, a proponent of the conventional secular left, and, on the Republican side, a proponent of a new Christian left. If that’s the choice, this is going to be a long election year."
He certainly would not have gotten my vote.
We need to go back to the old days when we didn't give a damn about what someone's theological views were, and focused on their ability to uphold the constitution and lead our nation.
I blame Carter, our first "born again" president, for bringing this BS into national politics.
It is probably best if we keep the agencies of these two kingdoms, the State and the Church, separate, and let them do their own ministrations. It may be a fine thing when we see Christian virtues blossoming in the State, but that doesn’t mean the clergy or religious officials should be walking in the halls of power or preaching politics, much less does it mean that statesmen or politicians should preach in the churches or define doctrine. Jesus is not a king “of this world,” and Caesar is not lord of our souls. One rightly senses a great trespass when the two are confused.
the above by Fr. Andrew Mead
It is probably best if we keep the agencies of these two kingdoms, the State and the Church, separate, and let them do their own ministrations. It may be a fine thing when we see Christian virtues blossoming in the State, but that doesn’t mean the clergy or religious officials should be walking in the halls of power or preaching politics, much less does it mean that statesmen or politicians should preach in the churches or define doctrine. Jesus is not a king “of this world,” and Caesar is not lord of our souls. One rightly senses a great trespass when the two are confused.
the above by Fr. Andrew Mead
I’m beginning to think that you are wrong about religion should not be part of secular politics. I’m not talking about McCain’s religion, I’m talking about Black Liberation Theology.
Did you know that Liberation Theology rejects all military might? Do you think that a man who claims to believe in Black Liberation Theology should serve as Commander in Chief?
That is a very good reason for religion to be considered in a Presidential election.
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