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Closet Catholic In the White House? (you be the judge)
Creative Minority Reports ^ | April 15, 2008 | Patrick Archbold

Posted on 04/15/2008 8:07:25 AM PDT by NYer

Daniel Burke at the Washington Post thinks that President Bush might be pulling a Tony Blair. Burke tells of the Catholic based culture that rules the west wing and some other lingering suspicions.

Shortly after Pope Benedict XVI's election in 2005, President Bush met with a small circle of advisers in the Oval Office. As some mentioned their own religious backgrounds, the president remarked that he had read one of the new pontiff's books about faith and culture in Western Europe.

Save for one other soul, Bush was the only non-Catholic in the room. But his interest in the pope's writings was no surprise to those around him. As the White House prepares to welcome Benedict on Tuesday, many in Bush's inner circle expect the pontiff to find a kindred spirit in the president. Because if Bill Clinton can be called America's first black president, some say, then George W. Bush could well be the nation's first Catholic president.

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"I don't think there's any question about it," says Rick Santorum, former U.S. senator from Pennsylvania and a devout Catholic, who was the first to give Bush the "Catholic president" label. "He's certainly much more Catholic than Kennedy."
While this concept of a Catholic run White House may be humorous to some, Fr. Richard John Neuhaus says that it is not so far fetched.
Bush has also placed Catholics in prominent roles in the federal government and relied on Catholic tradition to make a public case for everything from his faith-based initiative to antiabortion legislation. He has wedded Catholic intellectualism with evangelical political savvy to forge a powerful electoral coalition.

"There is an awareness in the White House that the rich Catholic intellectual tradition is a resource for making the links between Christian faith, religiously grounded moral judgments and public policy," says Richard John Neuhaus, a Catholic priest and editor of the journal First Things who has tutored Bush in the church's social doctrines for nearly a decade.
Finally, Burke hints that some close to the President might not be suprised if he pulled a Tony Blair one day by converting after leaving office.
Moreover, people close to Bush say that he has professed a not-so-secret admiration for the church's discipline and is personally attracted to the breadth and unity of its teachings. A New York priest who has befriended the president said that Bush respects the way Catholicism starts at the foundation -- with the notion that the papacy is willed by God and that the pope is Peter's successor. "I think what fascinates him about Catholicism is its historical plausibility," says this priest. "He does appreciate the systematic theology of the church, its intellectual cogency and stability." The priest also says that Bush "is not unaware of how evangelicalism -- by comparison with Catholicism -- may seem more limited both theologically and historically."

Former Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson, another evangelical with an affinity for Catholic teaching, says that the key to understanding Bush's domestic policy is to view it through the lens of Rome. Others go a step further.

Paul Weyrich, an architect of the religious right, detects in Bush shades of former British prime minister Tony Blair, who converted to Catholicism last year. "I think he is a secret believer," Weyrich says of Bush. Similarly, John DiIulio, Bush's first director of faith-based initiatives, has called the president a "closet Catholic." And he was only half-kidding.
Color me skeptical, but I don't think so.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
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To: Campion
XS>There would not be priest scandals, if the Roman church followed the commandments of YHvh and promoted marriage.

This is why there is far more child molestation in public schools than there has ever been in the Catholic Church, because the public schools refuse to follow the commandments of YHvh and promote marriage.

Hey, Chuck, has it ever occurred to you that Jesus, according to the Catholic Church, raised marriage to the dignity of a sacrament? Did you know that it was Martin Luther and the other Reformers who demoted it to a merely civil contract?

124 posted on April 15, 2008 12:08:54 PM MDT by Campion

You always seem to change the subject in order to deflect the truth of my statements.

If you were to reread John 2 and Numbers 19, you would see that
the purpose of changing the water of purification into wine really meant.

The water of purification was a mixture of water with
the ashes of the red heifer mixed with cedar wood
and hyssop and scarlet materiel (Numbers 19:6)

The water that Yah'shua changed was not the water we think
of, it was not drinking water. It was the water of purification
as detailed in Numbers 19.

The water of purification was used to remove sin under the old covenant.
By the act of changing the water of purification into wine, Yah'shua
ended the OT means of removing sin also pointing
to the the wine blessing in the Passover Seder.

Numbers 19:9 'Now a man who is clean shall gather up the ashes of the heifer
and deposit them outside the camp in a clean place, and the congregation of the
sons of Israel shall keep it as water to remove impurity; it is purification from sin.

This is the beginning of the New Covenant as outlined in JEREMIAH 31:31

Yah'shua by this miracle pointed to His power to remove sin.

Yah'shua demonstrated that He was greater than the Red Heifer.

Later He would become the Pesach Lamb,
removing sin forever to all who would call on His Name for salvation.

Yah'shua in Hebrew means YHvH is my salvation.

See:

Exodus 15:2; Psalm 18:2; Psalm 27:1; Psalm 62:1; Psalm 62:2; Psalm 62:6;
Psalm 62:7; Psalm 118:14; Psalm 119:174; Isaiah 12:2; Isaiah 46:13;
Isaiah 49:6; Isaiah 51:5; Isaiah 56:1; Isaiah 19:20; Isaiah 43:3;
Isaiah 43:11; Isaiah 45:21; Isaiah 49:26; Isaiah 60:16; Hosea 13:4

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
151 posted on 04/15/2008 11:41:32 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Beloved Levinite
Wow. (shuddders....)

Ever heard the term "accountability partner"? Tell us what it means, if you have.

152 posted on 04/15/2008 11:42:40 AM PDT by Campion
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To: All
Sorry for any intrusion, but on the longest thread on FR today I wanted to urge you all to register your complaints with the Carter Center.

Jimmy Carter honored the terrorist Arafat today, he put a wreath on his grave, a despicable act for the former US President.

Contact Information: The Carter Center

Mailing Address:
The Carter Center
One Copenhill
453 Freedom Parkway
Atlanta, GA 30307

Phone:
(404) 420-5100 or (800) 550-3560

E-mail:
carterweb@emory.edu

153 posted on 04/15/2008 11:43:35 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: XeniaSt

I never said anything about John 2, sorry.


154 posted on 04/15/2008 11:43:44 AM PDT by Campion
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To: ArrogantBustard

As in Matthew 8:8 the priest leads us in asking forgiveness from Christ, he does not assume the power of absolution unto himself.


155 posted on 04/15/2008 11:44:41 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Petronski

you are SO right! thank you.


156 posted on 04/15/2008 11:45:49 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Natural Law
Yes ... Catholics (should) know that all Grace, whether received through the Sacraments or otherwise, comes from God. The Priest's authority (power) to do any priestly duty comes from God and is utterly dependent upon God.
157 posted on 04/15/2008 11:48:01 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
>> Because if Bill Clinton can be called America's first black president, some say, then George W. Bush could well be the nation's first Catholic president. JFK wasn't president in the early 1960s? I seem to have heard something about an assassination . . . <<

JFK was indeed President, he just wasn't Catholic. He may have been baptized "Catholic", but he didn't practice it and opposed church doctrine, not to mention he could care less what the Pope thought (and ironically the Catholic bashers claimed that, if elected, JFK would be a puppet of the Pope)

Since JFK never observed Catholic beliefs, that would make George W. Bush the closest thing we've ever had to a "Catholic" President.

158 posted on 04/15/2008 11:48:42 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Don't interfere when you're enemy is destroying himself.)
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To: BillyBoy
and ironically the Catholic bashers claimed that, if elected, JFK would be a puppet of the Pope)

Yes, very ironic. Kennedy "proved them wrong" by becoming their puppet.

159 posted on 04/15/2008 11:50:17 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Campion

Aw, shoot. I didn’t know there was an Opus Dei albino monk on thread; I try to be so careful!

Can you put me at the end (alphabetically, you know) and let me live until after my beach vacation? Fatima would want you to!


160 posted on 04/15/2008 11:50:36 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("It's hard to be stressed out over your spouse while you're in a bathtub drinking wine together.")
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To: mware

If he’s turned his life over to Christ, he is home.

Do you love the Roman Catholic Church more than you love Christ? The gospel is Jesus, not Rome.


161 posted on 04/15/2008 11:53:55 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: BillyBoy
JFK was indeed President, he just wasn't Catholic. He may have been baptized "Catholic", but he didn't practice it and opposed church doctrine, not to mention he could care less what the Pope thought (and ironically the Catholic bashers claimed that, if elected, JFK would be a puppet of the Pope)

Since JFK never observed Catholic beliefs, that would make George W. Bush the closest thing we've ever had to a "Catholic" President.

This is some seriously self-serving reasoning, and quite a stretch just to make a silly rhetorical point, don't you think? Whatever you may think of his beliefs and his failings as a Catholic, JFK was, nonetheless, a Catholic, and the first (and only) Catholic ever elected President of the United States.

162 posted on 04/15/2008 11:54:08 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: murron
It wouldn’t be a sign of dissatisfication, but building on his current beliefs.

Yes to the second part, but I think a person is more likely to take an interest in a different church if he's not fully happy with his present church for some reason.

Someone pointed out above that President Bush has had trouble finding a suitable congregation in Washington. I didn't know that, and it makes me sad for him. How awful to go to church and have the pastor railing at your administration and you personally!

163 posted on 04/15/2008 11:55:33 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("It's hard to be stressed out over your spouse while you're in a bathtub drinking wine together.")
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To: muawiyah

I guess I should start worrying about what you Protestants are up to, since many of my fellow Catholics were once Protestants themselves.


164 posted on 04/15/2008 11:59:18 AM PDT by tioga
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To: sitetest; ArrogantBustard; Campion
"Knights of Columbus, Knights of Malta, and Rhodes Scholars"? Set all beebers to sporkweasel; the password is "Cecil."

One must question the good faith, or failing that, the intelligence, of folks who would believe such tripe.

Reading these threads is like reading "People" magazine in the grocery line. I didn't know people like that really existed.

165 posted on 04/15/2008 12:02:01 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("It's hard to be stressed out over your spouse while you're in a bathtub drinking wine together.")
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To: Lil'freeper

Ping...


166 posted on 04/15/2008 12:07:17 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: Tax-chick
How awful to go to church and have the pastor railing at your administration and you personally!

Must be awful (and surely inappropriate from the pulpit!). Then sometimes there's the opposite problem: I read that Truman, when he got to the White House, first went to the "stylish" church nearby -- but the pastor continually drew attention to him in a fawning way, and it drove him nuts! So he started going to a more distant, less "in" church where he was merely treated as another member of the congregation.

167 posted on 04/15/2008 12:08:30 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Beloved Levinite

Many Bishops have acted in good faith. Our little rural parish had a priest who abused our sons. IMMEDIATELY upon hearing this testimony our Bishop drove straight here and questioned the priest. He was removed right then and there from any active roll as a priest. Not one day after that date was he allowed the roll of priest in our church.

While there are certainly Bishops and others who failed, there are many who haven’t. To charge the entire church with such behaviour is “overblown”.

I personnally know men who have been victims of such abuse. I would never deny such things have happened.

And, yes, Christ will be the judge.


168 posted on 04/15/2008 12:09:47 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Natural Law
XS>There would not be priest scandals, if the Roman church followed the commandments of YHvh and promoted marriage.

I never cease to be amazed at how firmly some clutch to their own ignorance and condemn or criticize what they are ignorant of. As husbands and fathers our first priority is to our families before our neighbors and community. A priest's first priority must be to his flock. Having a wife and family would compromise this.

129 posted on April 15, 2008 12:18:09 PM MDT by Natural Law

Peter who many believe was the first Pontiff stated:
NAsbU 1 Peter 2:9 But you are A CHOSEN RACE, A royal PRIESTHOOD,
A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR God's OWN POSSESSION, so that you
may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of
darkness into His marvelous light;
If as Peter states that we are all a Royal Priesthood,
then there is no need for an Uber Caste of Priests
for the followers of the Christ to approach YHvH.

We can call on Yah'shua as our High Priest to approach YHvH.

NAsbU Matthew 27:51 And behold, the veil of the temple was torn
in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook and the rocks were split
When the veil of the temple was torn from top to bottom all of humanity
can approach the creator of the universe without an intermediary.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
169 posted on 04/15/2008 12:11:37 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Campion
I never said anything about John 2, sorry.

When do you believe Yah'shua created the "sacrament of marriage" ?

170 posted on 04/15/2008 12:14:35 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: XeniaSt
If as Peter states that we are all a Royal Priesthood, then there is no need for an Uber Caste of Priests

Peter's quoting Exodus 19:6. Do you dispute that Israel had a class of priests who were set apart from the rest of the people?

171 posted on 04/15/2008 12:23:02 PM PDT by Campion
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To: XeniaSt
It is more than a little disingenuous for biblical literalists to directly quote the words and translations of long dead Catholic councils of priests, bishops and popes, as manifest in the English bible you are citing, as a refutation of the now living Catholic priests, bishops, and pope.

The real message of Christ, and the reason he was assassinated by the priests, was that you don't need any churches or priests. You have a direct personal access to God. The bottom line is that God doesn't give a damn which pew your ass is in, but he cares a whole lot about what is in your heart. However, that doesn't mean that you are denied that access because of the church you attend or don't attend or if you don't use weird spelling so that you can Jedi-Mind Trick God into not thinking you not typing His name.

172 posted on 04/15/2008 12:24:48 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: tioga

Yes, we need to snoop around a little bit AND worry. You never know what’s going to happen. Besides, we should not allow a brother to fall into sin simply because we didn’t care enough to warn him.


173 posted on 04/15/2008 12:29:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Tax-chick
Dear Tax-chick,

“Rhodes Scholars”

LOL!! I didn't even notice that! Look at the company we Knights keep.

“Reading these threads is like reading ‘People’ magazine in the grocery line. I didn't know people like that really existed.”

Proof of life on the left side of the bell curve.


sitetest

174 posted on 04/15/2008 12:34:42 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Campion

We could argue here till the cow’s come home and get nowhere. I am not coping out, I’m just tired.(really) But, speaking of “high praise,” in all seriousness, how is GWB required to greet the Pope, if you know? Is he required to bow, kneel and or kiss the Pontiff’s ring? Will normal protocol in greeting the Pope required of Bush? And for all heads of state, for that matter? (Putin, King Fayahd, etc.)


175 posted on 04/15/2008 12:54:15 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite ("HOBo's already done more damage to race relations than Sharpton-Jacko combined.")
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To: Beloved Levinite

The Pope is a head of state. Bush is going to greet the Pope at the airport, something he has never done for any foreign dignitary.


176 posted on 04/15/2008 12:57:33 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: NYer
. . .then George W. Bush could well be the nation's first Catholic president.

So JFK didn't count?

177 posted on 04/15/2008 12:58:33 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: NYer

Why would he be a “secret” Catholic? I doubt he’d be ashamed to proclaim his faith.


178 posted on 04/15/2008 1:01:31 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Beloved Levinite
in all seriousness, how is GWB required to greet the Pope, if you know? Is he required to bow, kneel and or kiss the Pontiff’s ring?

What do you think? "in all seriousness" ... give me a break.

179 posted on 04/15/2008 1:20:16 PM PDT by Campion
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To: lastchance
Catholics are cannibals.

****************

LOL! That one always gets me.

180 posted on 04/15/2008 1:27:46 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Natural Law
It is more than a little disingenuous for biblical literalists to directly quote the words and translations of long dead Catholic councils of priests, bishops and popes, as manifest in the English bible you are citing, as a refutation of the now living Catholic priests, bishops, and pope.

The real message of Christ, and the reason he was assassinated by the priests, was that you don't need any churches or priests. You have a direct personal access to God. The bottom line is that God doesn't give a damn which pew your ass is in, but he cares a whole lot about what is in your heart. However, that doesn't mean that you are denied that access because of the church you attend or don't attend or if you don't use weird spelling so that you can Jedi-Mind Trick God into not thinking you not typing His name.

172 posted on April 15, 2008 1:24:48 PM MDT by Natural Law

I pray one day you will come to understand that the Holy Word of Elohim
is as John says is the pre-existent one: Yah'shua.

And that in order to come to know the creator of the universe,
you must seek Him out in His Word, not in man-made Traditions.

It is ignorant and anti-Semitic to state that Yah'shua
was assassinated by the priests , when you are the anti-semite.
You are aware that Yah'shua was/is a Jew and you are rejecting Him and His brothers.

NAsbU Matthew 25:40 "The King will answer and say to them,
'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these
brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.'
Anyone who seeks to be covered with the "blood of the lamb" must have
been part of the killing of the lamb. So if you reject killing the Passover Lamb
then you are not covered by the blood of the lamb and you reject YHvH's salvation.

Elohim YHvH has communicated with us through His Word.
He has communicated to us from outside our time-space continuum.

He does not communicate to us through some man-made corporation.
He said he would send another like himself ( Ru'ach HaKodesh )
to assist us in understanding His Holy Word.

If you understand the language of Elohim, it is very clear that:
"Yah has become my salvation" is the Name that most refer to as Jesus.
The name Yah'shua means "Yah has become my salvation".

YHvH

Yod Hey in Hebrew is the Name of Elohim.
vav is man in Hebrew; Yah became man for our salvation.
He has become our Go'el
The letter Hey is the breath of Elohim.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai


181 posted on 04/15/2008 1:27:46 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Campion
Peter's quoting Exodus 19:6. Do you dispute that Israel had a class of priests who were set apart from the rest of the people?

Yes but the temple is gone and Yah'shua is our High Priest ( see Hebrews 3 - 13)
b'SHEM Yah'shua
182 posted on 04/15/2008 1:32:45 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: XeniaSt

Your posting was a completely wasted exercise in reductio ad absurdum.


183 posted on 04/15/2008 1:39:53 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
Mazol Tov
b'SHEM Yah'shua




184 posted on 04/15/2008 1:43:58 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Natural Law

But it has some cool html coding that I certainly couldn’t do, although I can post a picture of a cat (if anyone wants one).


185 posted on 04/15/2008 1:44:13 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("It's hard to be stressed out over your spouse while you're in a bathtub drinking wine together.")
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To: dangus

The Doles had been members of Foundry Methodist in DC for decades; it’s the church the Clintons attended when they arrived at the White House. It didn’t take long for the Doles to leave that church. Guess their hearts, their minds and their doors were a little TOO open ;)


186 posted on 04/15/2008 1:50:53 PM PDT by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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To: Campion

“What do you think? “in all seriousness” ... give me a break”

I’m not Catholic, so I wouldn’t know. I thought you being Catholic might know the protocol in receiving the Pope. Do only Catholics need to bow & kiss his ring, or is it required of others?


187 posted on 04/15/2008 2:27:53 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite ("HOBo's already done more damage to race relations than Sharpton-Jacko combined.")
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To: roses of sharon

“Jimmy Carter honored the terrorist Arafat today, he put a wreath on his grave, a despicable act for the former US President.”

Wow, that it staggering! What a slap in the face to Americans and also to our Jewish friends. Just staggering & reprehensible.

May Jimmy Carter pay a heavy price for this act of treason.


188 posted on 04/15/2008 2:42:22 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite ("HOBo's already done more damage to race relations than Sharpton-Jacko combined.")
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To: tioga

tioga,

Did you follow up to see if that priest was in fact fired, or just moved to another parish or obscure monastery? The shuffling of priests remains one of the biggest problems.


189 posted on 04/15/2008 2:59:51 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite ("HOBo's already done more damage to race relations than Sharpton-Jacko combined.")
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To: tioga

...and BTW, I’m truly sorry to hear your story.

God Bless.


190 posted on 04/15/2008 3:01:16 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite ("HOBo's already done more damage to race relations than Sharpton-Jacko combined.")
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To: Beloved Levinite
"...or just moved to another parish or obscure monastery?"

If the priest in question is not being criminally prosecuted I have no problem with moving him to an obscure monastery or to a similar location void of children. After all, the church is in the redemption business.

note: Monks and Brothers reside at monasteries, priests rarely do.

191 posted on 04/15/2008 3:23:16 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: XeniaSt

Your vav is in the wrong place.


192 posted on 04/15/2008 3:27:25 PM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz
Your vav is in the wrong place.

?? Could you be more specific, please.

193 posted on 04/15/2008 3:43:33 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Natural Law

It is satire and I am a loyal daughter of Holy Mother Church.


194 posted on 04/15/2008 4:28:02 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: EDINVA

Yeah, but Elizabeth Dole is a cofounder, with Christine Todd Whitman, of “It’s my Party, Too (IMP-PAC)” (Notice, the abbreviaions only fit “It’s My Party.” IMP=PAC seeks to oust conservatives who are pro-life, anti-gay, etc., etc., etc. IOW, they are anti-conservative.


195 posted on 04/15/2008 4:49:26 PM PDT by dangus
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To: lastchance

ROFLMAO. I don’t think we are supposed to tell anyone these things. ;) Blessed to be RC!


196 posted on 04/15/2008 4:50:35 PM PDT by defconw (Pray for Snow!)
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To: XeniaSt

Gay men who are attracted to teenage boys are not very good marriage prospects.


197 posted on 04/15/2008 4:55:43 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: lastchance

Awww, now don’t be so judgmental ... they just need to meet the right woman! ;-)


198 posted on 04/15/2008 5:32:21 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("It's hard to be stressed out over your spouse while you're in a bathtub drinking wine together.")
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To: NYer
Well I just got to see the Holy Father's arrival at Andrews and the walk with President Bush. They both looked awesome. Nit sure I have ever seen Papa Bene looking so good and vital. WOW!

If President Bush wants to come home, I would be proud to share a kneeler with him.

199 posted on 04/15/2008 5:41:31 PM PDT by defconw (Pray for Snow!)
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To: dangus

I looked up the IMP-PAC site, which seems to be pretty exclusively Christie Todd Whitman. It has joined forces with something called the Republican Leadership Counsel. The RLC lists among its partners various ‘moderate’ and/or ‘centrist’ Republican groups, i.e., Log Cabin Republicans, Republicans for Choice and others distinctly NOT conservative.

The RLC also lists as a partner the National Republican Senatorial committee of which Sen. Dole was chair (as were Rick Santorum and George Allen). Their site still shows Sen. Dole as chair, but it’s Sen. Ensign. The Republican Governors Conference is also a partner.

Unlike the other partners which have specific constituent groups, these two are neither moderate nor conservative groups. Unlike IMP-PAC and RLC, they are elected Republican organizations dedicated to the election of Republicans to either the Senator or to governorships. As such, they have to work with all GOP-oriented groups to see that Republican candidates are elected, regardless of where they fall within the political spectrum.

I don’t see that Sen. Dole had anything to do with founding either IMP-PAC or the RLC organization. It could be she did, but I see no evidence of that, and it seems contrary to everything else about her. Do you have more info ?


200 posted on 04/15/2008 7:05:57 PM PDT by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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