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Why I'm Catholic
Et tu? ^ | 2007 | Jennifer F.

Posted on 04/15/2008 8:02:36 PM PDT by annalex

Why I'm Catholic

I am asked with increasing frequency why I converted to Catholicism as opposed to one of the other Christian denominations. Though this blog is sort of one long conversion story, I've never put together a post summarizing that part of my journey because that subject matter can be a hot (and divisive) topic.

Also, these types of posts are often interpreted to have an implication that people who have had different experiences and have come to different conclusions about religion and God are wrong and therefore not going to be saved. I want to make it really clear that that is not what I believe (nor what the Church believes -- in fact, one of the many things that resonated as true about Catholic teaching is the belief that non-Catholics and non-Christians could also go to heaven).

Anyway, I've decided to go ahead and write about that part of the conversion process, but I want to add a big disclaimer that I'm sharing this in the spirit of telling my story. I am far too concerned about what I see happening in the world today to have any interest in causing division among Christians. We're in this together.

As always, please take this for what it is: the ramblings of some fool with an internet connection. :) Take it (and everything else I write) with a grain of salt.


My search for God really began in earnest when I started reading up on Christianity. For a couple years I'd been making half-hearted attempts to open my mind to the possibility of God's existence but it never really went anywhere. And then I stumbled across some reasonable Christian writers who laid out a logical case for Jesus having actually existed, the events as described in the New Testament having actually happened, and for Jesus being who he said he was (former atheist Lee Strobel's Case for Christ has a nice, quick summary). Not that these authors "proved" their case irrefutably or that no arguments could be made against them, but they had a much more compelling, evidence-based case than I'd thought they had. I was intrigued.

I decided to see what it meant to be a Christian. Some bad childhood experiences had left me with a bad taste in my mouth about the religion, but I decided to give it my best effort to start fresh, exploring this belief system with an open mind. I bought a copy of the Bible.

Before I even opened the cover, we had a problem.

I wanted to know if the people who did the English translation of this version were said to have been inspired by God as the writers of the original texts were. When I found out the answer was no, I was concerned. Translators have a lot of leeway and can really impact a text. If this book could potentially be the key to people knowing or not knowing God, I was uneasy about reading a 21st century English version of texts that were written in far different cultures thousands of years ago, translated by average people. Could God not have inspired all translators? Though I was concerned, I decided to set the issue aside for the time being and move on.

Somewhere around page two, we had another problem.

I found the creation story fit surprisingly well with what we know of the origin of the universe through science, albeit in symbolic form. I could definitely believe that this was true. I could not, however, believe that it was a journalistic style account of events, like something you'd read in the newspaper. So I immediately needed to know: is it required of Christians to believe that Genesis is to be taken literally? I asked people and looked around online, and quickly found that there was not unanimous agreement on this. I found people who laid out a pretty good case that, yes, it is required of Christians to believe that Genesis is a literal, blow-by-blow description of events that happened about 6,000 years ago; yet others made a good case that Christians should believe that it is truth conveyed through symbolism. I really couldn't tell who I should believe.

I decided to move on and get to what I really wanted to know about: the Christian moral code. One of the things that had originally piqued my interest in religion in the first place was the fact that humans throughout history have all had this same sense that objective truth exists, what is "right" and "wrong" is not subjective. Also, I had begun to feel confused and lost when I looked at the world around me. This was around the time of the Terri Schiavo controversy, and when I tried to weigh issues like that, as well as the other big ethical dilemmas like human cloning, research on embryos, etc. I just felt sad and adrift. I really didn't know what was right or wrong, yet I had this vague sense that a true "right" answer must be out there somewhere. If there was a God, surely he had opinions about these things. And surely he could guide me to find them.

So I picked the Bible back up and continued reading.

One example of the type of answers I was searching for was what Christianity had to say about abortion. At the time I considered myself staunchly "pro-choice", yet something had started to nag at me about that position. I felt uneasy about the whole thing, and wanted to know if Christianity said that God is OK with abortion or not. I read through the New Testament (eventually reading it cover to cover), and couldn't find much. I kept instinctively flipping to the last page for some sort of answer key. How was I supposed to find the part where God tells us what he thinks about terminating pregnancies? Someone recommended that I get a concordance. I was happy to do that, but it felt strange: in order to know how to live as a Christian you need a Bible and a concordance? And were the writers of the concordance inspired? What if they missed something big or made a mistake?

I wasn't coming up with much so I Googled around to see what Christians had to say about it. And I found as many different opinions as I found people, everyone offering Bible verses to back up their claims. Each person stated their interpretation confidently as a fact -- yet they contradicted one another. When I looked up the verses they cited in my own Bible, sometimes I felt they were right-on, other times I felt they were taken out of context, and other times I didn't even know what the context was (e.g. some Old Testament verses where I just had no idea what was going on).

What frequently happened when I was looking for Biblical answers to my ethical dilemmas was that I'd read two contradictory opinions from two different Christians. I'd decide that Christian #1 made the best case based on Scripture, so I had my answer. But then Christian #2 would come back with a new verse that I'd never seen before that shed new light on it, and then I'd think his case must be the right one. And then Christian #1 would come up with yet another verse and I'd think he had the right answer. And then...well, you get the idea. It seemed that in order to form my own opinion about any of these issues I'd have to have an encyclopedic knowledge of the Bible to make sure I didn't miss anything.

So I started reading. I decided to skip ahead to the New Testament since that's where Jesus comes in. And, as with the Old Testament, we quickly had a problem. Here is a sort of sample discussion I'd have with whatever Christian I could find to pester with questions:

ME: Ack! I just read this part in the New Testament where Jesus tells some rich dude he has to give away all his stuff! If I decide this Christianity thing is true am I going to have to give away all my stuff?! [Worried glace at brand new Dell Inspiron laptop.]

FRIEND: Hah! No, don't worry, Jesus was just talking to that one guy.

ME: Where does it say that? Does he later clarify that that instruction was only for that one guy?

FRIEND: No, but that's clearly how he meant it.

ME: That's not clear to me. Anyway, there's this part where he tells this woman Martha that her sister Mary did the right thing by putting Jesus before trivial stuff. Was that only a lesson for her?

CHRISTIAN: No, that's a lesson for all of us.

ME: [Flipping to last page to look for answer key.] Where is that clarified?

This usually ended with my Christian acquaintances telling me to let the Holy Spirit guide me (and probably making a mental note to find less annoying friends). Even though I wasn't sure I believed in God, I had been praying through this whole process. So I prayed for guidance. I asked God to lead me to the right conclusion about all these questions, to speak to me through Scripture about everything from abortion and experimentation on human embryos to whether or not I needed to give away all my stuff.

After a while of praying, reading the Bible, and visiting some churches, I felt like I had some conclusions. I decided that a good Biblical case could be made for "a woman's right to choose" (as I thought of it then), that I didn't need to give away all my stuff, that it was probably OK to experiment on embryos if it was for curing diseases, etc. I'd felt led to these conclusions, presumably by God, and had found some scriptures that would seem to support them.

But something didn't feel right.

As I continued thinking and praying about whether or not I'd come to the right conclusions about what God wants for us, I realized what the problem was, the reason I couldn't relax: I couldn't trust myself. You have to understand, I am a seriously sinful, selfish person. I realized that my self-serving nature severely clouded my ability to be confident in my interpretation Scripture. I had some pretty passionate opinions about all of these issues, and it was so hard to tell what was leading me to my conclusions. Was my decision that the Bible would be OK with me continuing in my comfy American lifestyle led by the "Holy Spirit" or "Jen's seriously deep desire not to give away all her stuff"? I couldn't tell.

My confusion about all of this made me wonder how people who are severely unintelligent could use the Bible as their guide. I'm probably in the middle of the Bell curve on intelligence, and I was really struggling. For that matter, what about the illiterate? Widespread literacy is a relatively recent phenomenon, yet people who couldn't read couldn't use the Bible as their guide. They'd have to go through another, fallible person, which seemed dangerous.

Taking all of this as a whole, the writing was on the wall, so to speak. Christianity did not seem to be the path to God, if he even did exist. At least not for me. I just couldn't trust myself to to get it right. I felt as adrift as ever in terms of the big ethical questions of our day. Though I thought I might have "experienced" God or the Holy Spirit or something from outside the material world a few times in my exploration, using the Christian holy book to find out how God would want me to live was just not working. I was leaning towards moving on to the next religion, seeking God through some other belief system. I prayed for guidance.

Around this time someone told me that one of the Christian denominations claimed that God did leave us this "answer key" I'd been yearning for. I found out that the Catholic Church claimed to be a sort of divinely-guided Supreme Court, that God guided this Church to be inerrant in its official proclamations about what is right and wrong, how to interpret the Bible, how to know Jesus Christ, and all other questions of God and what he wants us to do. I heard that it claims that God speaks to us through sacred Scripture and through the sacred Tradition of his living Church.

That got my attention.

Clearly there was a need for this. Surely I was not the only person to ever feel lost in the world, unable to trust myself to objectively interpret the Bible to discern what God wants from us, unable to clearly tell which of my conclusions about right and wrong were guided by the Holy Spirit and which were guided by deeply-rooted selfishness (or perhaps something worse).

Now, obviously I wasn't going to become Catholic. I mean, the Catholic Church is weird and antiquated and sometimes the people in it do seriously bad stuff. But I was interested to at least explore this line of thinking and see what I found.

I could have never, ever imagined what I'd find. Reading the Catechism of the Catholic Church was like nothing I'd ever experienced. This was truth. I knew it. I'd finally found it. It described God, our relationship to him, the Bible, Jesus, moral truths -- the entire human experience -- in a way that resonated on a deep level.

When I started living my life according to Catholic teaching the proof was, as they say, in the pudding. It worked. It worked better than I could have ever guessed it would. And since I've been able to receive what they say is really the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ, my soul, my entire life, has changed profoundly. But that is whole separate story (and, really, the main subject of this blog). To summarize my experience, I leave you with a quote from G.K. Chesterton, writing about why he converted to orthodox Catholicism:

I do it because the [Catholic Church] has not merely told this truth or that truth, but has revealed itself as a truth-telling thing. All other philosophies say the things that plainly seem to be true; only this philosophy has again and again said the thing that does not seem to be true, but is true. Alone of all creeds it is convincing where it is not attractive; it turns out to be right, like my father in the garden.

My thoughts exactly.

Again, I share this not to cause division, but for the same reason anyone talks about anything they love -- that mysterious desire we all have to shout from the rooftops about the things that we find to be profound, beautiful, and true.

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To: annalex

Second, one comes to Christ at the moment of death whether he had believed in Him or not. That is because Christ is doing the judging, no one else. What Christ’s judgement will be will depend on what the dying will do at that point. Many, we hope, if their soul was conditioned by good works of natural law, will be ready to embrace Him then.

The judgement, it doen’t say when it will happen (many believe after the book of revelations (the appocalypse).

But that isn’t true, by then it will be too late. One MUST decide before they die.

Secondly Christ Himself claimed that HE is the ONLY way! As much as we feel for non-Christians we MUST pray for them, and wittness of Christs love for them. If they reject Him, well then that’s their Choice, and God wouldn’t be just at letting them (not being covered by the sacrifice-purfied- that Christ shed on the cross) into His Holy Domain (Heaven). Only those that place their faith in Christ will be saved, and it isn’t by “good works of natural law” as much as we would wish it so. It is ONLY by faith, that’s’s too simple, but then again it’s not!

21 posted on 04/16/2008 8:43:42 AM PDT by JSDude1 (Tis only a “protest” vote if your political worldview is Republican 1st, conservative 2nd. -pissan)
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To: JSDude1

There are two judgements, the parcitular judgement that occurs at the time of death of each human being, and then the Judgement Day at the end of times when the world is judged as a whole.

You seem to argue the point that no one is disputing. Christ is the sovereign judge of both judgements; if a non-Christian is ever saved, it is by Christ alone, and yes, it is only possible if the non-believer accepts Christ at the last moment of his life. This is a very intimate moment when a man is judged by Christ, which may justify a life of unbelief. The good works according to natural law do not sway the judgement unless the conversion to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church of Jesus Christ occurs by the movement of the free will. An example of such good works of the natural law and last moment conversion is the Good Thief on the cross.

22 posted on 04/16/2008 10:32:30 AM PDT by annalex (
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To: annalex

I am a Christian, non-Catholic so I can’t nor will discuss Cathoic terminology. I would like to let this converation be between those that love Christ, in Kindness and love. You stated “An example of such good works of the natural law and last moment conversion is the Good Thief on the cross”. This was not by human works, but by his FAITH in Christ alone, it was God’s work, not man’s that saved both he and us.

My point in this discussion is that non-Christians (those whom do not recieved Christ’s forgivness becuase they aren’t willing to give up controll of their lives..will not be “saved” by Christ at the judgement of their souls. It may not be PC, but is the truth!

23 posted on 04/16/2008 10:48:28 AM PDT by JSDude1 (Tis only a “protest” vote if your political worldview is Republican 1st, conservative 2nd. -pissan)
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To: JSDude1
This was not by human works, but by his FAITH in Christ alone, it was God’s work, not man’s that saved both he and us.

The Good Thief did everything the Church requires of him while not knowing it. He defended an innocently accused, he repented of his sin, he suffered for it, he acknowledged Christ's kingship, and he asked Christ for mercy. It is, indeed the Divine Grace that enabled the Good Thief to do all this work. The Good Thief worked out his salvation because he chose to. The Bad Thief chose not to. Christ loves both.

24 posted on 04/16/2008 12:50:31 PM PDT by annalex (
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To: annalex

“he asked Christ for mercy.”-bingo that’s exactly what he did, and that’s all he had to do!

None of the other “works” were necessary.

I guess if you want to respond and say somthing similar to the last two posts, then we ought to end this post now (not because I don’t like you, becuase I do, but becuase it is pointless, we will just be going in circles..

ALL I Have to say: And this I will end with is: Scripture claims that we are saved “by faith, through grace”..that’s all that’s necessary as far as I can see, and since God didn’t say we have to have works sanctioned by the Church to be saved, I’ll stick with The Word (of God). I emplore you in love to reread those passages that talk about faith in Christ being sufficient, I think mostly in the epistles by St. Paul. ;-). God Bless, -Jeremy.

25 posted on 04/16/2008 5:32:26 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Tis only a “protest” vote if your political worldview is Republican 1st, conservative 2nd. -pissan)
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To: JSDude1

I don’t think picking one verse out of the Bible and ignoring the rest of it because, hey, that’s all that’s necessary, — is an adequate plea for mercy.

The gospel tells us what the Good Thief did for a reason. The reason is to lead us to salvation.

26 posted on 04/16/2008 6:45:21 PM PDT by annalex (
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To: annalex

It’s like some bibles just don’t have the Epistle of St. James.

27 posted on 04/16/2008 6:47:31 PM PDT by Petronski (Vivat Benedict XVI!)
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To: Petronski

Or the book of Matthew, or the finishing chapters of every epistle of St. Paul, or...

Remove the call to obedience to the Gospel from the scripture and you have a few verses left without context.

28 posted on 04/16/2008 7:02:20 PM PDT by annalex (
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To: Iscool
"NO...Your church may teach you that but as you can see, God determined who would preach to and teach the Gentiles...And as you can see, it was Paul...So my arguement IS valid... "

No, dear boy, your argument is BS. Like all Protestants you try to solve the issue by taking a single verse out of context of the whole Bible.

The facts are that Paul ministered to both Gentiles and Jews, witness the references throughout the New Testament of his teaching in synagogues, as well as his having his disciple Timothy circumsized to placate the Jews he would be working with (or did you just conveniently "forget" those facts).

Obviously, Peter did the same, since he was the one who started the ministry to the Gentiles in the first place.

29 posted on 04/17/2008 6:56:59 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Wonder Warthog
No, dear boy, your argument is BS. Like all Protestants you try to solve the issue by taking a single verse out of context of the whole Bible.

Well surely then you can explain what the context of these verses is...

Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Gal 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)

30 posted on 04/18/2008 7:20:37 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: annalex
Prayers to saints are prayers to God. and your heretic cult need to repent and embrace the true and living God!

31 posted on 04/18/2008 9:09:28 AM PDT by TheGunny (Re-read 1&2 Corinthians)
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To: TheGunny

Repent of praying to God?

32 posted on 04/18/2008 9:53:15 AM PDT by annalex (
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To: annalex
The Apostles Paul and Peter both rebuked men when they rendered worship (prayer) to them. God used those miracles to authenticate the Apostolic ministry not to evoke worship or prayer! It sounds really nice, the words you wrote, but they unfortunately fall flat when confronted with sound Biblical Doctrine. Sell your tripe somewhere else.
33 posted on 04/18/2008 1:38:51 PM PDT by TheGunny (Re-read 1&2 Corinthians)
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To: TheGunny
The Apostles Paul and Peter both rebuked men when they rendered worship (prayer) to them.

10 And when the multitudes had seen what Paul had done, they lifted up their voice in the Lycaonian tongue, saying: The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men; 11 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter: but Paul, Mercury; because he was chief speaker. 12 The priest also of Jupiter that was before the city, bringing oxen and garlands before the gate, would have offered sacrifice with the people. 13 Which, when the apostles Barnabas and Paul had heard, rending their clothes, they leaped out among the people, crying, 14 And saying: Ye men, why do ye these things? We also are mortals, men like unto you, preaching to you to be converted from these vain things, to the living God, who made the heaven, and the earth, and the sea, and all things that are in them: 15 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways. 16 Nevertheless he left not himself without testimony, doing good from heaven, giving rains and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness. 17 And speaking these things, they scarce restrained the people from sacrificing to them.

(Acts 14)

When you see us offering the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass to Sts Paul and Barnabas, let me know.

Sell your tripe somewhere else.

This is a debate forum, Religion section. Where do you suggest I offer Catholic doctrines up for debate?

34 posted on 04/18/2008 2:08:04 PM PDT by annalex (
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To: annalex

Please consult a Bible Lexicon/Dictionary or even a Topical index...Prayer is offered up as a sacrifice to the Throne of God! How dare we offer this to mortals dead or alive! Im done here, you can respond if you like but it will be for not.

35 posted on 04/18/2008 2:46:13 PM PDT by TheGunny (Re-read 1&2 Corinthians)
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To: annalex
When you see us offering the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass to Sts Paul and Barnabas, let me know.

There is no Holy Sacrifice of the Mass...No one can offer God as a sacrifice other than God...

You can perform a ritual but I can't imagine God being too pleased about it...

Praying to dead people will be no more effective than praying to me...Your dead 'saints' are no more closer to God than I, or any other born-again Christian...

36 posted on 04/18/2008 3:09:31 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: TheGunny

If you have a substantive objection based on the lexicon or anything else, please present it and I’ll be happy to look into that.

37 posted on 04/18/2008 3:20:21 PM PDT by annalex (
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To: Iscool
The Mass is the sacrifice of the Cross, the same one you as a Christian presumably are not unaware of. It is also commanded by God: "do this in memory of me". We do.

Praying to dead people will be no more effective than praying to me

"A prayer of a righteous man accomplishes much",-- James 5, I believe.

38 posted on 04/18/2008 3:22:54 PM PDT by annalex (
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To: Iscool
There wasn't a "Gentile church". There wasn't a "Jewish church," either, after Pentecost. One Lord, one faith, one baptism. Not two. In fact, the early Catholic Christians called themselves "the third race" -- that is, neither Jew nor Gentile.

Nor did Paul have a different gospel for Gentiles. In fact, the whole point of the early chapters of Romans is that Gentiles and Jews are saved under exactly the same plan and the same rules. Nobody is saved apart from grace.

Read Paul again if you don't believe me. Start with Galatians 3 and Ephesians 3:1-6.

39 posted on 04/18/2008 3:34:07 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Iscool
No one can offer God as a sacrifice other than God

This is true, BTW, which why the real Priest who offers the Mass is Christ himself. That's Catholic doctrine.

40 posted on 04/18/2008 3:35:27 PM PDT by Campion
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