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To: annalex
Um...yeah, my middle name is Gerard. My Mother prayed to St. Gerard for a first born son...it worked so it must be effective huh? Catholicism is sad in that it propagates the notion that prayers offered up to anyone or thing but the Triune God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). Prayers offered to so called “saints”, Mary or anything else are a diversion from the one true God. Some of my cousins were just “confirmed”...I want to ask them, “confirmed to what?” Unfortunately (yeah, again) this was not their choice, but a choice their parents made, thus not a true conversion at all. Just a good show, and another reason for food and a family get together. No Christ, no salvation; its just stuff that makes me feel better about myself.
10 posted on 04/15/2008 9:30:23 PM PDT by TheGunny (Re-read 1&2 Corinthians)
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To: TheGunny
Prayers offered to so called "saints", Mary or anything else are a diversion from the one true God.

According to whom?

Does love for your children divert love from your spouse?

11 posted on 04/15/2008 9:39:46 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: TheGunny

Catholic Church was Founded by Christ... do you really think he would allow Saints and the Rosary and the Like without his blessing. More is expected of Catholics it is a Real Shame that Non Catholics Miss the Body Blood soul and Divinity of Christ in Communion! Confession having your sins Forgiven by Christ representative on Earth. Too experience St Faustina first Saint of the 21st century in the 1930’s writing a Diary as Commanded By Jesus Christ Himself about what Makes him Happy and Sad on Living our lives on Earth. He also mentions in the 1930’s that the Slaughter of the Unborn Innocents is the Most Horrendous crime of all time. That was when Margaret Sangor set up the Family Birth Control League the precursor to Planned parenthood.

The catholic Church was the ROCK that has always stood Firm against SIN like Abortion.. and Many Other sad situations accepted By our secular Society and The Moral relativist. Gang! The Manmade Religion followers suffered as a result!


12 posted on 04/15/2008 9:47:03 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (From Kuwait where the Weather is always Partly Sandy!)
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To: TheGunny

Prayers to saints are prayers to God. It is by His power that they are saints and work miracles. If God did not want you to venerate them, He would not grant them a single miracle.

However, it is possible to pray wrongly. It is possible to pray wrongly to God directly; it is possible to pray to a saint wrongly. If, in the hypothetical example that you offer, a prayer to a saint is a diversion, then one should not pray that and find a better way to pray.

Christ gave us an example of that. When a woman in the crowd cried out “blessed is the womb that bore You and the paps that gave You suck”, her veneration of Mary was sincere but a bit imprecise. It was stressing physiological motherhood. But Jesus wanted us to venerate all saints rather than His mother alone, and He wanted us to venerate them for reasons of their obedience to Him. So He corrected the woman: “Yes, rather blessed are these who hear the Word and keep it” (Luke 11).


19 posted on 04/16/2008 7:32:43 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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