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Ancient writings support LDS doctrine and teachings (LDS Caucus)
Deseret News ^ | Monday, Apr. 28, 2008 | By Rodger L. Hardy

Posted on 04/29/2008 6:06:04 AM PDT by restornu

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To: Perseverando

By all means let the discussion continue. Unfortunately there’s not much substance I see to discuss. This article reads more like a PR release than a news story.

But please, continue.


41 posted on 04/29/2008 7:04:19 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: wideawake; restornu; wagglebee

What was found? Who found it? When was it found? Where was it found? How do they support Mormonism or Joe Smith? I’d actually be interested in this topic, but as it stands, this article reads like, “Some guys found some stuff which proves we’re right!”

Restornu, do you have a more useful article?

From wikipedia: “The Deseret News is owned by Deseret News Publishing Company, a subsidiary of Deseret Management Corporation, which is a for-profit business holdings company owned by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (widely known as the Mormon or LDS Church).”


42 posted on 04/29/2008 7:04:53 AM PDT by dangus
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To: wagglebee
Of course I still have problems with the claim that Egypt was the “fountain” of Christian knowledge for a thousand years.

Indeed. The real historical record reveals that Christian theology flourished not only in Alexandria (Cyril, Clement) but in Jerusalem (Matthew, James, Cyril), Antioch (Ignatius), Edessa (Ephrem), Asia Minor (Basil, Gregory Of Nyssa, John Chrysostom), Rome (Ambrose, Gregory), Carthage (Augustine, Tertullian), Marseilles (Irenaeus), Seville (Isidore) and many other places besides.

43 posted on 04/29/2008 7:05:34 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Religion Moderator

Thanks.


44 posted on 04/29/2008 7:09:55 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
You are being silly this is a religion thread and many here are not even practicing the tenants of their faith and acting like those who wanted to crucify Christ because it disagreed with there believe system!

Some here are no better in their actions!

You make fun of us but at least most LDS try to be better people.


So which best describes the behavior of many here Telestial or Terrestrial?

45 posted on 04/29/2008 7:10:17 AM PDT by restornu
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To: wideawake; wagglebee

>> Indeed. The real historical record reveals that Christian theology flourished not only in Alexandria (Cyril, Clement) but in Jerusalem (Matthew, James, Cyril), Antioch (Ignatius), Edessa (Ephrem), Asia Minor (Basil, Gregory Of Nyssa, John Chrysostom), Rome (Ambrose, Gregory), Carthage (Augustine, Tertullian), Marseilles (Irenaeus), Seville (Isidore) and many other places besides. <<

Not only that, but Egypt was the home of vast numbers of syncretist Hindus and Zoroastrians who sought to absorb Christianity into their pantheistic religions. Hence, much of what comes from Egypt is non-representative of Christianity. Further, the government of Egypt is very hostile to any research which might validate Jewish and Christian versions of histories, so whatever flows from Egypt tends to be the worst of the worst.


46 posted on 04/29/2008 7:10:50 AM PDT by dangus
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To: restornu; wideawake
These Devotional /Caucus threads are intended to be ponder in nature.

Sorry, but something claiming facticity cannot be claimed to be devotional in order to escape scrutiny, no matter how "ponder" they are in nature.
47 posted on 04/29/2008 7:11:42 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: dangus

Exactly, this is a press release issued by a newspaper that is owned by the LDS. It says that “experts” have “proof” that Smith was right all along, but doesn’t offer even a hint as to who these experts are or what proof has been discovered.


48 posted on 04/29/2008 7:14:19 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: restornu; wagglebee
You are being silly [sic]this is a religion thread and many here are not even practicing the tenants of their faith and acting like those who wanted to crucify Christ because it [sic] disagreed with there [sic] believe [sic] system!

Did you just wake up?
49 posted on 04/29/2008 7:15:26 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: romanesq

Re: By all means let the discussion continue. Unfortunately there’s not much substance I see to discuss. This article reads more like a PR release than a news story.

But please, continue.


Please review my posts #7 & #25. I in no way endorse the veracity of the original posted article.


50 posted on 04/29/2008 7:16:36 AM PDT by Perseverando
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To: restornu
You are being silly this is a religion thread and many here are not even practicing the tenants of their faith and acting like those who wanted to crucify Christ because it disagreed with there believe system!

I'm not certain that I would term this a religious thread, I see it as more of an archeology thread.

You make fun of us but at least most LDS try to be better people.

Asking questions IS NOT making fun of anyone.

If someone said they discovered "proof" that Jesus Christ never existed, would it be "making fun of them" to ask what this "proof" was?

51 posted on 04/29/2008 7:18:18 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: restornu
***but at least most LDS try to be better people***

So do most Dr Phil viewers.

52 posted on 04/29/2008 7:19:26 AM PDT by Gamecock ("I find your lack of faith-disturbing" Darth Vader)
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To: wagglebee

LDS probably put this out yesterday to deflect attention from the current very LARGE elephant in the middle of the room.


53 posted on 04/29/2008 7:20:22 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: dangus

In the ancient world it made sense that ANY religious or philosophical movement would expand from it’s geographical starting point and Christianity was no different, the Apostles went out in all directions to preach the Gospel.


54 posted on 04/29/2008 7:20:39 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Perseverando

This came from a fire side which I am sure more information was given at the time someone just put it in the Mormon times news.

I appreciate you difference but much still isn’t conclusive on your side to be so sure!


55 posted on 04/29/2008 7:51:19 AM PDT by restornu
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To: Notwithstanding

Where are the gold plates that the farm boy translated?

Surely we can see them and verify their origin and confirm the accuracy of the translation. Lets see ‘em - they can prove the validity of Mormonism.


56 posted on 04/29/2008 7:52:44 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: wagglebee

Asking questions IS NOT making fun of anyone.

True but some have a legit reason for those question most I encounter are just faultfinding for the heck of it!


57 posted on 04/29/2008 7:54:31 AM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu

However, you still haven’t answered ANY of these questions.

Were there to be a discovery that corroborated Smith, it would be very important from both a religious and archaeological standpoint. What was discovered? Who has authenticated it? Where is the proof?


58 posted on 04/29/2008 7:57:25 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Gamecock
So do most Dr Phil viewers.

Except the ones who are just too lazy to change the channel when the soap opera ends.

59 posted on 04/29/2008 7:58:58 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: restornu

It’s kinda short on data.


60 posted on 04/29/2008 8:01:29 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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