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Why Evangelicals are Returning to Rome
CIC ^ | April 2008 | Bob DeWaay

Posted on 05/02/2008 2:09:51 PM PDT by Augustinian monk

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To: Petronski

“Again with the Calvinism.”

And again, you brought it up. I haven’t.


301 posted on 05/03/2008 4:30:34 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: Petronski
I actually have the temerity--the unmitigated uppity gall--to insist that I be able to define what I believe

That you do.

As we Bible-believing Christians have the right (and the duty) to disagree with the errors of Rome while asserting the truth of God's word.

302 posted on 05/03/2008 4:31:00 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: swmobuffalo
You clearly referred to Calvinism when you said this:

...the “truth” that a bunch of guys twisted around to suit themselves and then foisted on the world ever since?

Or perhaps you were referring to Machenism?

303 posted on 05/03/2008 4:32:05 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Catholics are Bible-believing Christians.

Catholics have the right (and the duty) to disagree with the errors of New Jersey while asserting the truth of God's Word.

304 posted on 05/03/2008 4:33:15 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Petronski; swmobuffalo

Face it, Petronski. Your joke didn’t make any sense and it just wasn’t funny.


305 posted on 05/03/2008 4:33:43 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: MarkBsnr

“The NT wasn’t put together for 300 years after Jesus was taken up to Heaven.”

Ah, another man made fallacy. The letters of the Apostles were circulating the churches as soon as they were written. They had the “Old Testament” scriptures already.

I’m not interested in the “teachings of the Church”, I’m interested in the teachings of Christ, in His words and the explanations of Peter, John, Paul, Luke etc.

If you’ve got a “manual”, then I suggest you get a Bible and start reading.


306 posted on 05/03/2008 4:34:16 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Only you called it a joke.


307 posted on 05/03/2008 4:34:18 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: swmobuffalo
I’m interested in the teachings of Christ, in His words and the explanations of Peter, John, Paul, Luke etc.

Good Catholics, all.

308 posted on 05/03/2008 4:34:55 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Petronski
Only you called it a joke.

Nope. I called it a "bad joke."

309 posted on 05/03/2008 4:36:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: swmobuffalo

AMEN!


310 posted on 05/03/2008 4:36:46 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

It wasn’t a joke, good or bad. Only you think it was a joke, indicating that it DID make sense to you.

You understood what I meant, even to the point of understanding that it was not funny. Your only error is thinking it was intended to be funny.


311 posted on 05/03/2008 4:37:32 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Petronski

LOL. Yeah, and the Russians invented the television and the three-speed blender and time-release Excedrin.


312 posted on 05/03/2008 4:38:04 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Petronski

“Good Catholics, all.”

No more Catholic than I am. I’m beginning to think that some think that before Christ ascended, he waved a magic wand and dubbed them all “Catholic”. There was NO Catholic church in the first century.


313 posted on 05/03/2008 4:38:32 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

That was a nice compact list of stuff you got wrong.


314 posted on 05/03/2008 4:39:04 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: swmobuffalo
There was NO Catholic church in the first century.

Your absolutism is misplaced. There was NO church BUT the Catholic Church in the first century. It was His plan.

315 posted on 05/03/2008 4:40:00 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***The church at Rome wrote the Bible!!!***

For the tragically simple, the situation is this:

The Bible was put together by the Church about 300 years after Jesus ascended, not by a rabble of accountants in 1936.


316 posted on 05/03/2008 4:40:47 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***therefore it does not call itself “the only true church.”***

Just as well, since it isn’t the True Church. I’m not sure why any members would stay since it isn’t.


317 posted on 05/03/2008 4:42:45 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

The Gospels, Old Testament, Epistles, etc. existed before then, but they were written by Catholics—inspired by God—, preserved by Catholics, and assembled into the Bible by Catholics about 300 years after His Ascension.


318 posted on 05/03/2008 4:43:17 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Just as well, since it isn’t the True Church. I’m not sure why any members would stay since it isn’t.

At least OPC isn't lying about that.

319 posted on 05/03/2008 4:44:10 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***I do. Every word based on Scripture.***

Cherry picked and not related. Even satan can quote scripture for his own purposes. Especially his minions on earth.

***You’ve asked this twice now. Perhaps you think I’m afraid to answer it or something. Nope.***

Nice of you to answer it once. How do you handle that passage in the WCF? Do you ignore it?


320 posted on 05/03/2008 4:44:40 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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