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Why Evangelicals are Returning to Rome
CIC ^ | April 2008 | Bob DeWaay

Posted on 05/02/2008 2:09:51 PM PDT by Augustinian monk

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To: Augustinian monk

To come to the fullness of the Christian faith will bring incredible joy to so many sincere believers.

The Sacramental life along with the love of Scripture is a wonderful thing.

One can never plumb the depths of the Catholic faith for there is much mystery. Also 2000 years of church history.
So many wonderful writings and tradtions.

The journey home can be rough but the joy to be found is worth it all.


21 posted on 05/02/2008 2:44:49 PM PDT by magdalen
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

So if you find someone trying to add to the Bible, warn them.


22 posted on 05/02/2008 2:45:42 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Augustinian monk

23 posted on 05/02/2008 2:47:32 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made." Groucho Marx)
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To: Augustinian monk

I’m tired of holding the Host and Cup myself...should I return to Rome?


24 posted on 05/02/2008 2:48:12 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Gawd, that’s great!


25 posted on 05/02/2008 2:48:36 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: sean327

***So you are basicaly saying we Catholics aren’t Christians.***

Actually, it would be more fair to say that the Catholic Chruch isn’t Christian: it is a masquerade of the truth. I have no doubt that heaven will be full of EX-Catholics, who renouced their Catholic beliefs the moment they beheld the true glory that is Christ.


26 posted on 05/02/2008 2:48:55 PM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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To: Lord_Calvinus

” have no doubt that heaven will be full of EX-Catholics, who renouced their Catholic beliefs the moment they beheld the true glory that is Christ.”

So IOW you believe Catholics will go to hell?


27 posted on 05/02/2008 2:50:07 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Petronski

Which is what I do whenever someone touts the extra and un-Biblical RC doctrines and dogmas about the Eucharist, Mary, priests, salvation by works, world domination by the church, claiming to speak for God, etc. etc.


28 posted on 05/02/2008 2:50:37 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Petronski

It just gets better and better, doesn’t it?


29 posted on 05/02/2008 2:52:40 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

The Catholic Church is not adding those things to the Bible. You’re bearing false witness.


30 posted on 05/02/2008 2:54:55 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: OpusatFR

***So IOW you believe Catholics will go to hell?***

I’m sure hell will be full of Catholics, too. But, that is not what I said. I said that there will be people who renounced their Catholicism the moment they behold the glory of Christ. “IOW” there will be a lot of Catholics who went into the ground that woke up in heaven EX-Catholics.


31 posted on 05/02/2008 2:55:37 PM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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To: OpusatFR

It does. From the crisis, though, comes true change for the better.


32 posted on 05/02/2008 2:55:55 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: CaspersGh0sts
“.... the Gospels were a loosely assembled mish-mash of this or that...”

The Episcopal Bishop of Pennsylvania (name unrecalled) publicly stated, “the Bible was written by humans, it can be rewritten by humans.” - or words to that effect. There is a lot of theological garbage being thrown around these days.

33 posted on 05/02/2008 2:56:17 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: Augustinian monk
Perhaps the best antidote to rejecting sola scriptura and going back to Rome would be a careful study of the Book of Hebrews.

In this portion of the text, the author is arguing for the concept of an "invisible church" that is present today, apparently with no visible structure or hierarchy. All very well and good if the Bible only consisted of the Book of Hebrews, but it of course, does not.

Matt 5:14-16, "Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."

The "church" (the body of believers) are to be a visible manifestation of Christ's work in them, for the world.

Eph 4:13 "Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:"

We are exhorted to strive for UNITY, and not settle for division. (cf. Matt 12:25, 1 Cor 1:13) At no point are we told that it's "ok" to have division, and let that division stand, for the good of anyone. If there exists only an "invisible church", who exists IN this "invisible church" to settle matters of dogma? We certainly can't rely on the nebulous claim "The Holy Spirit guides me" to settle dogma, because it's too easy to claim that. Every Christian that has rejected church authority claims to "have the Holy Spirit". Indeed, not everyone who says "Lord Lord" finds favor with Christ.

34 posted on 05/02/2008 2:57:26 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Petronski; Manfred the Wonder Dawg

Hey, Manfred, Petronski doesn’t know the definition of “extra” Biblical.


35 posted on 05/02/2008 2:59:43 PM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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To: Lord_Calvinus

Thank you for your personal interpretation.

I have 2000 years of Scripture and Tradition, the church fathers, the Apostles, saints and laity, not to mention the saints for mine, along with my own prayers.


36 posted on 05/02/2008 3:03:34 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Lord_Calvinus

Perhaps I don’t know YOUR definition of it. I do know THE definition of it.


37 posted on 05/02/2008 3:04:37 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: MEGoody

As long as it isn’t the new cult of Oprah.


38 posted on 05/02/2008 3:09:56 PM PDT by tbw2 ("Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" by Tamara Wilhite - on amazon.com)
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To: Petronski

“Reject the error and seek truth in the Catholic Church, founded by Christ”

No error and Christ founded the CHURCH, men founded the Catholic Church. Big difference.


39 posted on 05/02/2008 3:12:48 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: OpusatFR

***I have 2000 years of Scripture and Tradition, the church fathers, the Apostles, saints and laity, not to mention the saints for mine, along with my own prayers.***

Funny that you didn’t mention Christ when you put together your list for getting into heaven. I would think that would be the sole thing on a “list.” But, then I haven’t been taught that 2000 years of Scripture & Tradition are worthy of payment for getting into heaven.

BTW, I’ll see your 2000 years of Scripture and add a few thousand years more in my Bible. ;^)


40 posted on 05/02/2008 3:15:48 PM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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