Skip to comments.Messianic Judiasm Pastor using NASA on Blood moon eclipses: 2nd Coming in 2015
Posted on 06/13/2008 8:18:28 AM PDT by Raineygoodyear
And can studying NASAs website provide evidence for such a scenario?
A minister who promotes the Old Testament roots of Christianity suggests a rare string of lunar and solar eclipses said to fall on Gods annual holy days seven years from now could herald whats come to be known as the Second Coming of Jesus.
God wants us to look at the biblical calendar, says Mark Biltz, pastor of El Shaddai Ministries in Bonney Lake, Wash. The reason we need to be watching is [because] He will signal His appearance. But we have to know what to be watching as well. So we need to be watching the biblical holidays.
In a video interview on the Prophecy in the News website, Biltz said hes been studying prophecies that focus on the sun and moon, even going back to the book of Genesis where it states the lights in the sky would be be for signs, and for seasons.
He states after 2015 there are no more Eclipses that fall on the Jewish Passover ever.
This would mean coming this fall would be the Final Tribulation marking Daniel's 70th week. (The last 7 years)
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government ping.
Biltz says, You have the religious year beginning with the total solar eclipse, two weeks later a total lunar eclipse on Passover, and then the civil year beginning with the solar eclipse followed two weeks later by another total blood red moon on the Feast of Succoth all in 2015.
If you think that this is a coincidence, I want you to know that its time! exclaimed Prophecy in the News host J.R. Church. There are no more of these for the rest of the century.
He’s off by 1,945 years.
That’s 7 years from now. That means the rapture will happen before the year is out. The second coming has to be at least 7 years after the rapture.
I think there’s something in the Bible about no man knowing the day or hour. In other words, the only way this guy is right is if by blind luck.
Assuming there will be a pre-trib rapture. This is not a universal belief among christians, myself included.
Rev 22:20 Amen.
Ping and any thoughts?
That would be November 4th and the Olympics in Chicago is when?
Some interesting points, including an attempt to refute common views of “day or hour” quotes from Scripture.
I am not convinced, and I am not pre-trib so 7 years deal has no meaning for me.
But, who knows. It seems like we have been waiting for the second coming for forever. In God’s timing, barely a day has passed......it could still be 10,000 years from now.
The end is near!
“This would mean coming this fall would be the Final Tribulation marking Daniel’s 70th week. (The last 7 years)”
This applies only if one buys into the false construct known as dispensationalism.
Actually, it will apply if it’s true. What one believes about it is immaterial.
Christ will return only ONE time - for His church and to judge the world. The ‘secret rapture’ is a fabrication not found in Scripture.
No, in God's time, two days have passed and we're into the third day...Or if you count from Genesis 1, we are just into the 7th day...The day of REST...
And how long is a day to God??? One day is 1000 years...A MILLENIUM...
Arthur: I am your king!
Woman: Well I didn’t vote for you!
Arthur: You don’t vote for kings.
Woman: Well how’d you become king then?
[Angelic music plays...]
Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why I am your king!
Dennis: (interrupting) Listen, strange women lyin’ in ponds distributin’ swords is no basis for a system of government! Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcicial aquatic ceremony!
Arthur: Be quiet!
Dennis: Oh but you can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you!
Arthur: SHUT UP!
This applies whether you buy into it or not...
September 29, 2008 at sunset
is the feast of Trumpets.
And what’s the significance of that?
You think??? You don't study the scripture???
But you are right...But why do you guys ignore the verses that say we (Christians) will KNOW the TIMES, and the SEASONS??? If you're a Christian, and you love God's word, you will know the times and the seasons when HE shall show up...
You mean YOU haven't found it in scripture...Millions of other folks HAVE found it...Hey, maybe God blinded your mind to it...
What makes you say that? My daughter will only be able 28 days old at that point, so I guess it sucks to be my family...
*be about 28 days old.
This is right up our alley...
It is also called Rosh Hashanah.shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
YHvH's New Years day.
Rosh Hashanah...1Cor 15:51-53, 1 Thes 4:15-17, I pray.
The Jew looks for a sign and the Greek looks for wisdom.
This year is a sabbatical year; seven years from now will be another sabbatical year.
Is there anything special in the year 2014 or 2015 ?
Scripturally that is; let's ignore the Aztec calendar for now.NAU Revelation 6:12 I looked when He broke the sixth seal, and thereThe sun darkens and the moon becomes like blood.
was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth
made of hair, and the whole moon became like blood;
28 "It will come about after this That I will pour out My Spirit on all mankind; And your sons and daughters will prophesy, Your old men will dream dreams, Your young men will see visions.
29 "Even on the male and female servants I will pour out My Spirit in those days.
30 "I will display wonders in the sky and on the earth, Blood, fire and columns of smoke.
31 "The sun will be turned into darkness And the moon into blood Before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes.
32 "And it will come about that whoever calls on the name of the LORD Will be delivered; For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem There will be those who escape, As the LORD has said, Even among the survivors whom the LORD calls.
Solar and Lunar Eclipses perhaps ?
The four lunar eclipses will occur on:shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach AdonaiPassover, April 15, 2014This sequence of four signs ( eclipses) on YHvH's feasts does not occur often,
The Feast of Tabernacles, October 8, 2014
Passover, April 4, 2015 and
The Feast of Tabernacles, September 28, 2015
the last time was 1967-1968 (six day war and the capture of Jerusalem)
and 1949-1950 ( the year after the State of Israel was formed)
and 1493 the year after the Jews were expelled from Spain.
During 2014 - 2015 there will also be Solar Eclipses on YHvH's feast days:
Adar 29/Nisan 1, March 20, 2015
Tishri 1, The Feast of Trumpets, September 13, 2015
What is coming up this year and next?Av 1 - August 1, 2008 - partial eclipseIn the Jewish calendar, they are all on the first of Av, the day when Jews
Av 1 - July 22, 2009 - partial eclipse
Av 1 - July 11, 2010 - partial eclipse
lament the destruction of their temples. As the story goes, Moses caught
the people worshiping the Golden Calf on Tammuz 17. Therefore, the three weeks
from Tammuz 17 to Av 9 are called the dark time and between the straits.
It is the most sorrowful time of the year for Jews. From Av 1-9, no bathing
is allowed; no comforts; no clean clothes; the Jew takes his shoes off; sits
on an overturned chair and reads the book of Lamentations.
Messianic Pastor Mark Biltz discovered these signs occurring on YHvH's Feast days.
For a deeper understanding of potential Prophetic events,
possibly pointing to Daniel's seventieth week.
Read Solar and Lunar Eclipses in 2014/15 by J. R. Church
See 31 aboveshalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
An interesting idea.
The way it’s looking now . . . will be a LOT less people by then.
Shalom b’Shem Yah’shua
means only one day, that is the YHvH commanded Feast day of Trumpets. It only occurs when three stars and the new cresent moon
For anyone who has read and understands the Holy Word of Elohim shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
the phrase "not know the day nor hour"
is viewed over Jerusalem by the members of the Sanhedrin.
means only one day, that is the YHvH commanded Feast day of Trumpets.
It only occurs when three stars and the new cresent moon
Shalom bShem Yahshua
Amen and amain ! shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
“....is a fabrication not found in Scripture.”
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The whole context can only mean the rapture. Then he comes at the end of the tribulation and sets down upon the Mt of Olives.
“This is not a universal belief among christians, myself included.”
None the less, there will be a pre-trib rapture according to Thessalonians and other scriptures. Good people can disagree on this but the people who aren’t pre-trib are wrong.
Sorry - I’ve read boo-coo articles and a couple books on dispy theory and it doesn’t hold water.
IF you find a secret rapture in Scripture show it to “blind” me. IF you find a reference to Christ returning twice more, show it me.
The rapture of the church is sure ‘nough in Scripture - note that the verse you cited does not tell WHEN it takes place. Christ only returns one more time - not twice.
“I think theres something in the Bible about no man knowing the day or hour.”
That’s true but if he’s right, which I doubt, the rapture could be between now and up to exactly 7 years before the return. So the day and hour is still not known. But is that passage talking about the second coming or when Jesus comes in the clouds?
Olympics in Chicago? Is that a figure of speech I’m not aware of?
Dream away. The “gap theory” in Daniel’s prophecy ain’t in Scripture - it’s a dispy fabrication.
the scripture saying a thousand years is like a day does not say it is LITERALLY a day to God.....it is LIKE it.
I do not get those who try to say that is some sort of God calendar.
You are right...even JESUS doesn’t know ‘when’. FWIW...luck is a derivative of lucifer.
“This applies whether you buy into it or not...”
Amen! Preach it!
Then Christians for most of history were wrong.......pre-tribbers are a recent incarnation except for a few historical pre-tribs in the middle ages and later.
“you will know the times and the seasons when HE shall show up...”
That’s because the Bible is very clear on when He shows up. Exactly 7 years after the Anti-Christ signs the peace treaty with Israel. Christians who are alive now will be caught up when Christ returns in the air. Those people who get saved after the peace treaty will know exactly when Christ will return.
She would be raptured too. Hey, my wife and I are having a baby in November, Lord willing. Congratulations!
If GOD’s true church will meet him in the Clouds however that manifests itself then wouldn’t it make more sense that he is talking about believers when he says
*You do not know when your Lord shall Come* But look up! as your redemption draws nigh..
Maybe that means the rapture will definetly be at night maybe when we are sleeping
When he returns to earth to rein will be later when he wipes out the Antichrist.