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To: NYer

What a massive catastrophic failure of catechesis.

What hath VII wrought?


3 posted on 06/25/2008 1:40:07 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski

The Kennedy’s are all “good Catholics” so it is not surprising. When I was a kid we would chant “Rat, rat, Democrat” And we were Catholic. But times have changed.


6 posted on 06/25/2008 1:43:45 PM PDT by unkus
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Seems the Catholic Church isn’t doing such a good job against the gates of hell after all...


10 posted on 06/25/2008 1:49:42 PM PDT by Tao Yin (Hey, this thread isn't ecumenical)
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To: Petronski
“What hath VII wrought?”

Why blame Vatican II? This is what the Catholic Bishops wrought.

When will the Bishops control the Catholic leadership of the Democrat party? They are also THE leadership of the Democrat party.
Why are the two most heavily “Catholic” states the most sinful and disobedient to the Vatican? I am talking about California and Massachusetts.

Why did the Bishops confuse the issue of voting and abortion?

Who started the corrupt unions?

Who supports illegal Immigration?

Who allows gays in drag to take Communion?

Has the church supported ACORN?

I am not anti-Catholic, I am Catholic. I follow the Vatican, do the Bishop's?

19 posted on 06/25/2008 1:58:40 PM PDT by paguch
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To: Petronski
What a massive catastrophic failure of catechesis.
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Wichita, Kansas, has **free** tuition for its Catholic youth. How do they pay for it? Answer: All Catholic parishioners are asked to tithe.

So??...I wonder?

Of the tithing paying Catholics in Wichita, and their kids graduating from their Catholic schools, I wonder how many support Democrats who promote abortion, push partial birth abortion, call for sex education in government schools , distribute birth control to minors, condone sex out of marriage, oppose school vouchers and tax credits, and legislate for homosexual marriage????

( Just wondering?)

Personally, I believe most of these polls reflex the opinions of Catholics who graduated from government schools and are now merely CINOs.

The statistics for evangelical youth (from strong and active Christian families) who graduate from government school, remaining faithful in their faith is ABYSMAL. Some studies show more than 88% leave their faith. Why would be any different for Catholic kids?

Also...Worse, studies show that youth graduating from government schools, who **claim** to be Christian hold beliefs that disqualify them from being Christian. Why would Catholic Christian youth have a better outcome?

If you want your kid to be Catholic, **homeschool** them!!!!
This is your **best** bet for keeping them active in the faith.... or... ( second best) get them into a Catholic school that teaches Catholicism and **not** Marxist Liberation Theology!

32 posted on 06/25/2008 2:41:40 PM PDT by wintertime (Quick find the RAID!)
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To: Petronski
What hath VII wrought?

I'm sorry but you can't keep laying the blame on the Council. Society, at large, was going through a major shakeup at the time the council was convened. That certain bishops were influenced by the culture may be true but the council, as a whole, cannot be taken to task.

Recall that upon his election as pontiff, Pope Benedict XVI stated that his mission would be to implement Vatican Council II. That is what we are now seeing.

46 posted on 06/25/2008 4:01:02 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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