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To: paguch
Why blame Vatican II? This is what the Catholic Bishops wrought.

Well, sadly, at least some Bishops and priests cite Vat II when openly acting in opposition to 'Rome', which, in my diocese, is viewed by some as a nice Diocese with it's own Bishop (the Holy Father) but not unlike and certainly not having any authority over other Diocese' like the Diocese of Erie (mine) or any other. I hear it all the time. There was tangible fear when Pope Benedict was chosen that he would clamp down on abuses done, rightly or wrongly, in the name of Vat II. So like it or not, many dissident clergy cling to Vat II as the new spring and seek to enact it in 'their' own image. It seems the two go hand in hand, leftie clergy and Vat II. I otherwise agree, that some Bishops have overstepped their authority and responsibilities. And now some cling to Vat II as a license to forge ahead. I can't go 2 weeks here without hearing Vat II cited in a sermon or homily or by Parish ministers (I am active in parish ministry) as a positive thing, an aim to fully bring it about. And those who disagree, well, they're looked at like they've just landed from another planet, and are reminded of obedience to the Bishop.

62 posted on 06/25/2008 5:21:07 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Communism/socialism has failed millions, a lesson lost on too many.)
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To: fortunecookie
It seems the two go hand in hand, leftie clergy and Vat II.
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“lefty clergy”

Translation: MARXIST clergy that have been thoroughly marinated in the Liberation Theology stew.

There were plenty of walking the halls of my Catholic University! Honestly! They have a greater testimony of Marx than they did of Christ.

65 posted on 06/25/2008 6:43:00 PM PDT by wintertime (Quick find the RAID!)
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