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The Tribulation has already begun New book will reveal the details
RenewAmerica ^ | June 25th, 2008 | Tom Kovach

Posted on 07/01/2008 7:00:33 AM PDT by Raineygoodyear

Many people have been taught — quite wrongly — that there will not be any Christians here on Earth when The Tribulation begins. Those misguided Christians are basing their hopes on a "get out of jail free card" called a "Pre-Tribulational Rapture." The idea that The Rapture — the sudden, bodily "snatching away" of Christians up into Heaven — will occur prior to The Tribulation is a prophetic equivalent of a "prosperity gospel" that gives people a false sense of hope and security. That false sense could easily usher in the great "falling away."

For several months, I've been doing research for a new book. The original working title was Are We Already in the End Times?, but I recently changed the title from a question to a statement. The new title is Tribulation: 2008. In the book, I identify four distinct periods of Biblical timing: the Latter Days, the End Times, the Tribulation, and the Great Tribulation. Many people seem to think that all four periods are the same, but are called by different names in different parts of the Bible. Not so. This past weekend, the signs were put in place to move us from the End Times into The Tribulation.

But, wait, there's more!

This past weekend also matched the period described in Revelation 8:5, when an angel takes fire from the altar of God and throws it to the Earth. More than 800 wildfires started in a single day in California this past weekend, as the result of an 'unprecedented' lightning storm of a type called "dry lightning." The triggering event in the Bible takes place immediately after the "silence in Heaven," and as the seven angels prepare to blow their seven trumpets that cause disasters on Earth during The Tribulation. (For a presentation on the "silence in Heaven," its duration on Earth, and the event that marks its beginning, readers will need to wait for the book, which should be completed soon.) The wildfires form a virtual ring around the infamous Bohemian Grove, where leaders from business and government gather to perform pagan rituals during the Dog Days of Summer. If the huge number of fires were to heat up the sub-surface rock formations, could that trigger an earthquake? (The next thing in the sequence of Revelation 8:5 is an earthquake.)

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To: stuartcr

may I refer you to the above devotional today ...?

We are becoming redundant ...

It is a ploy of the devil t creat confusion and twist truth.

If you have read the whole Bible with a seeking heart then we can discuss further.

No, I am not thinking or saying I have all the answers. I simply know that Jesus and the Scriptures are the answer. Ye,s I have looked and read the worlds religions (mostly) and the current new age stuff ... Course in Miracles etc.

81 posted on 07/03/2008 10:27:49 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: geologist

I understand.

82 posted on 07/03/2008 10:30:17 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: All

All of you have missed the real humor in what Kovach is claiming here. He is desperate to forge a link between the wildfires and his predicted earthquake for the Bohemian Grove. His later columns are filled with USGS maps of fault lines near his target zone. What he has completely failed to realize is that NONE OF THE MAJOR WILDFIRES were located anywhere within a hundred miles of there. Readers can confirm this for themselves by going to the latest maps of the burn zones at;

I also happen to live near San Francisco. We had some pretty sunsets from all the smoke and a couple of times it even made me cough but it really it was no big deal. Happily at last report the fires are all pretty much under control. If the rest of the Tribulations turn out to be as much of a cream puff as this one then I think I’m going to be able to get through it. Two thousands years of build-up over nothing. Ah well.

83 posted on 07/15/2008 1:18:11 PM PDT by DaveC
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To: DaveC
The author of this article found this thread and commented on it:
California: still bakin', soon shakin'
Predicted earthquake pre-shocks have already begun

Tom Kovach
Tom Kovach
July 14, 2008

In a series of recent columns, this writer has made some comments that caused scoffing. In fact, an entire Free Republic forum page has been dedicated to "'cussing and discussing" one of my recent columns, "The Tribulation has already begun." That column drew a link from the California wildfires, through idol worship at the Bohemian Grove, to the likelihood of earthquakes soon — all in the same pro-homosexual region of Northern California. Well, the foreshocks of those earthquakes have already begun — and, right on schedule!

On the day before the annual Bohemian Grove gathering started last week, a small earthquake occurred near Green Valley, California. Interestingly, that earthquake occurred almost to the minute at the time in which my most recent column, "Hot rocks could roll!" was posted on the Internet. More important than that timing is the trend shown by the geographic locations of an entire series of "micro-earthquakes" in that same vicinity.

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84 posted on 07/15/2008 11:32:01 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Syncro

Actually that third column by Tom Kovach is the one that led me to this forum. It’s the one with all the pretty USGS maps that are totally unconnected to where the REAL fire zones were. It also makes a big deal out of a magintude 2.6 earthquake near the Bohemian Grove last week. Big Whoopy. I guarantee you that no human being can even detect magnitude 2.6 quakes without the aid of elaborate instrumentation. They happen pretty much every day around here and no one notices.

My prediction is that Kovach will latch onto any earthquake that happens anywhere in the world anytime this year and use it to declare victory. Do we have a bet?


85 posted on 07/17/2008 10:26:10 AM PDT by DaveC
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To: DaveC

Welcome to Free Republic Dave

Not gonna bet, the odds are in your favor


I have been to the Bohemian Grove and spent some time in the cabin where the Manhattan project was concieved

86 posted on 07/17/2008 12:08:16 PM PDT by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Raineygoodyear
The tribulation has nothing to do with California.

It has to do with G-d's people: Israel.

It can not be divined by solstices, Mayan calendars.

It will occur on G-d's calendar and on G-d's Feast Days.

The trumpets will sound on the YHvH commanded Feast of Trumpets.

Sunset on September 29, 2008.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

87 posted on 07/17/2008 12:32:34 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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