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To: Salvation

Under the rules of the [Ecumenical] tag on this thread, I will refrain from commenting on what I think of the RCC. Instead I will offer my belief that God alone is infallible, that His chosen ones are inhabited by His Spirit and, when humbly submitted to Him, each saint can comprehend the Truth the Lord wills to reveal to him. I believe that each Christian has been purchased by the blood of the Lamb of God and by His testimony has access directly to the Father in Heaven.

I believe Christ Jesus will return without prior notice and take His people, judge the nations, and send those whose names are not written in the Lamb’s Book of Life into the fire of eternal torment. God’s elect will live with Him and all creation - in Heaven and Hell - will glorify God forever. He alone is worthy of praise and able to save.


5 posted on 07/01/2008 6:24:38 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
I think you missed one very important line in this article!

So, you see, infallibility is from God! That part of your post is alligned with the beliefs of the Catholic Church.

Infallibility is a gift of Christ and the Holy Spirit that gives us clarity and certainty about the faith itself and morality.

7 posted on 07/01/2008 6:28:00 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

In other words, the pope and magisterium of infallible, except where they are fallible.


11 posted on 07/01/2008 6:53:36 PM PDT by fwdude (If marriage can mean anything, then marriage means nothing.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

Amen, MWD! I agree, wholeheartedly, and share your desire to comply with the rules of this thread. Free indeed, thank you Jesus.


14 posted on 07/01/2008 7:17:56 PM PDT by MonicaG (Help Wanted: Conservative leadership '08)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
Yours is a fine post.

Anybody with two wits to rub together gets that infallibility is an outrageous claim. Certainly we converts to the Catholic Church have to struggle with it.

So, believe me, I have at least a little sense of how this claim seems. The arrogance, the sublime and deluded self-confidence seems too much for anyone to accept.

What is critical, at least for me, is to consider Christ's promises to us.

It's hard. It's hard, when the dentist approaches our mouth with that horse needle, to believe that he means us well and that acquiescence is the wise choice. It's hard to look at some guy in Rome, wearing a dress, and to think that there might be something in what he and his dress-wearing homies might be saying.

The classical Protestant can take his Bible and some aids, like Strong's, and say I can work this out; who knows, maybe I'll see something the others didn't see.

All we have is, "Lord, don't let the Pope or the bishops mess up."

Most people watch the film clips about the installation of a pope and see only the externals: the vestments, the ceremonial, and so forth. What they miss is that a billion people, give or take, are saying< "Okay God, we're staking our souls on your promise to the Church."

Being a Catholic, day to day, means saying prayers and rejoicing in the undeserved love of God. But as regards the Magisterium and the Pope, it means a real leap of faith. "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life."

17 posted on 07/01/2008 7:30:45 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

Very well articulated.


34 posted on 07/02/2008 11:47:33 PM PDT by Fichori (Primitive goat herder, Among those who kneel before a man; Standing.)
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