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Evangelicals: Change of Heart toward Catholics
The Black Cordelias ^ | July 28, 2008 | The Black Cordelias

Posted on 07/29/2008 4:39:52 PM PDT by annalex

Evangelicals: Change of Heart toward Catholics

Evangelicals have been going through a major change of heart in their view of Catholicism over the past 15 years or so. In the 80’s when I was in college I lived in the Biblebelt and had plenty of experience with Evangelicals–much of it bad experience. The 80’s was the height of the “Are you saved?” question. In Virginia, the question often popped up in the first 10 minutes of getting to know someone. As I look back, Isurmise that this was coached from the pulpit or Sunday school as it was so well coordinated and almost universally applied. It was a good tactic for putting Catholics on the defensive even before it was known that they were Catholic—”ummmm, uhhh, well no, I’m not sure, I’m Catholic.” Then a conversation about works righteousness or saint statues would ensue. Yeah, nice to meet you, too.
Thankfully, those days are pretty much over. We now have formerly rabid anti-Catholics apologizing and even praising the pope. Catholics and Evangelicals have both learned that we have much in common and need each other to face the secular culture with a solid front. But, where did this detente come from? I think there is a real history to be told here and a book should be written. Let me give my perceptions of 7 major developments since 1993, which I regard as the the watershed year for the renewal of the Catholic Church in the United States.

1. The Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1993. When this document came out, it was uncertain that even Catholics would read it. We should have known that something was up when the French version hit the top of the bestsellers charts in France and stayed there for months. The English version did the same in the US. Catholics were reading the Catechism, forming study groups and challenging errant professors in the classroom.

2. World Youth Day, Denver 1993. Catholic youth and youth ministers woke up. Suddenly, Catholic youth ministers realized that the youth loved the pope. And they loved him all the more because he did not talk down to them or water down the faith. He challenged them. Gone now were the pizza and a video parish youth nights. Furthermore, youth and young adults took up the challenge to evangelize. One of those youth heard the message and started a website, New Advent. Catholic youth were now becoming zealous for the Catholic faith in its fullness and were not going to be swayed by an awkward conversation that began with “Are you saved?”

3. Scott Hahn. While the Catechism is great for expounding the Catholic faith, it is not a work of apologetics itself. It is not written to expose the flaws of Evangelical theology. It is not written to defend the Church against the attacks of Evangelicals per se. It just would not let them get away with misrepresenting the Catholic faith. But Scott Hahn hit the scene at about the same time with Rome Sweet Home: Our Journey to Catholicism (Ignatius Press: San Francisco, 1993). I first heard his testimony on cassette tape in 1996. It blew my mind. Suddenly, Catholic apologetics, which is as old as the Catholic Church itself, got a leg up and there was an explosion of books, magazines and websites that effectively undercut the arguments of the 5 Solas. For the first time, there was a cadre of Catholics well enough informed to defend their faith.

4. The Internet. The Net started exploding from 1993 to 1996. I had my first account in ‘94. Compuserve was horribly basic, but by ‘96 I had AOL and the religion debates raged instantly. Catholics who had just been given the most powerful weapon in the arsenal in the war against misinterpretation of their teaching were learning to type on a forum while balancing their catechisms on their laps. Of course, online versions came out, as well. But, no Evangelical bent on getting Catholics out of the arms of the Whore of Babylon could expect to do so without himself have a copy of the Catechism, knowing it inside out and pouring over it for the errors and horrors he would surely find. Evangelical apologists were confronted with a coherent and beautiful presentation of the Catholic faith that they were ill equipped to argue against. They learned that Catholics, too, loved Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. The Catechism had arrived providentially just before the internet and had turned the tables in just a few short years. With the apologetic movement hitting at the same time, Evangelicals were also confronted with Catholics who could argue from the Bible defending their faith and demonstrating the weaknesses of Evangelical interpretations of scripture.

5. Early Church Fathers. One fruit of the Apologetics movement has been a flowering anew of Catholic interest in Patristics. This is happening at every level from armchair apologists to doctoral studies. It is suddenly all about Patristics, whereas in the 70’s-90’s the academic focus had been on Karl Rahner and Liberation Theology.

6. Evangelical Third World Experience. Evangelicals have had a field day in Latin America among the poor who are not part of the internet conversation and are distant from the study of apologetics. But, Evangelicals have learned from their experiences abroad an essential aspect of the Gospel they were missing: the Works of Mercy. Once haughty with their criticism of “works righteousness,” they have learned one cannot attend to the spiritual needs of the poor without attending to their bodily needs. Catholic have always understood this. Now, the Evangelicals are coming around. I haven’t heard an Evangelical Televangelist speak on works righteousness in many years.

7. Secularism. With the collapse of the Mainline churches as the backbone of American religion over the past thirty years (since about 1975), Catholics and Evangelicals are the only ones left standing in this country to present the Gospel. Secularism is on the rise and is ruthless. Evangelicals are now learning that only Catholicism has the intellectual resources to combat the present secular age. And, with the pope, we have a pretty effective means for communicating the faith and representing it to the world. There is nothing an Evangelical can do that will match the power of one World Youth Day.

With such an array of Providential developments, Evangelicals as well as Catholics have come to appreciate the depth and the breadth of the Catholic faith. It is far more difficult for them to honestly dismiss Catholicism as the work of Satan as once they did without qualm. There have been apologies and there have been calls for a new partnership. Let us hope these developments will bring about a new moment of understanding for the Glory of the Lord.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian
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To: Petronski

Good God Almighty!

“MOM! Tell Billy to quit looking at me! He’s looking at me, Mom!”

Honestly. Some of these people will demand that you not post to them, and then sooner or later, they’ll post to you, in spite of what they said.

Is the RF the place where people come to act out their pathology? Sometimes I wonder.


1,121 posted on 08/10/2008 7:55:12 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Petronski; Religion Moderator
I told you not to post to me anymore!
1,122 posted on 08/10/2008 7:56:18 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

Try not reading it.


1,123 posted on 08/10/2008 7:57:54 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: Judith Anne
Imagine claiming the moral high ground while also claiming this:

You just live to insult people.

1,124 posted on 08/10/2008 7:58:20 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: P-Marlowe
I know!
1,125 posted on 08/10/2008 7:58:56 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: P-Marlowe
If they are going to go to hell and if God is omniscient, then God created them knowing full well that he was going to send them to hell. So no matter how you slice it, they were destined for hell before they were created.

You make the mistake of putting God within time and thus cannot comprehend that everything is NOW with God eternally.

The creation of us all is one NOW to God and cannot change from the eternal love created by Him freely.He created us out of love in one NOW to freely Choose Him and Freely love Him or reject Him

Your God is an evil zeus who lives within the time of which the human mind and makes sacrifice to the devil.

1,126 posted on 08/10/2008 7:58:59 PM PDT by stfassisi ( ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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To: P-Marlowe

Are you making this personal?


1,128 posted on 08/10/2008 8:06:44 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Marysecretary
Don’t bother praying for me with your attitude. It will never be answered.

You have no choice in who I decide to pray for and to decide for God what prayers are answered.

1,129 posted on 08/10/2008 8:06:47 PM PDT by stfassisi ( ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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To: stfassisi

Have your own way. I really don’t care.


1,130 posted on 08/10/2008 8:07:52 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: P-Marlowe

No offense but you’re being a whiny baby.


1,131 posted on 08/10/2008 8:08:42 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: Petronski; Religion Moderator

Please do not post to me again.


1,132 posted on 08/10/2008 8:08:42 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary

Please do not bring thin skin to open threads. According to guidelines, it makes you the disruptor.


1,133 posted on 08/10/2008 8:10:13 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Petronski

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1,134 posted on 08/10/2008 8:11:08 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: P-Marlowe
Correction

“”Your God is an evil zeus who lives within the time of which the human mind and makes sacrifice to the devil.””

Should read

Your God is an evil zeus who lives within the time of the comprehension of human mind and makes sacrifice to the devil.

1,135 posted on 08/10/2008 8:11:09 PM PDT by stfassisi ( ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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To: P-Marlowe
I told you not to post to me anymore!

Can I post to you? I'm very nice in person and have 2 cats.

1,136 posted on 08/10/2008 8:11:56 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: Hacksaw

I have a neurotic miniature poodle named Scoobie and a feral tomcat named Aretha.

Just, you know, for the record.


1,137 posted on 08/10/2008 8:14:12 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Marysecretary
Have your own way. I really don’t care

I'm sorry your having a difficult day ,dear sister.

Perhaps you should take a break and spend more time in prayer ?

1,138 posted on 08/10/2008 8:15:00 PM PDT by stfassisi ( ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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To: Judith Anne
“MOM! Tell Billy to quit looking at me! He’s looking at me, Mom!”

LOL

That sounds about right.

Complaints from the two unfortunate kids who have to sit in that weird third seat in the back of the station wagon that faces the wrong way.

1,139 posted on 08/10/2008 8:16:28 PM PDT by Petronski (The God of Life will condemn the Chinese government. Laogai means GULAG.)
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To: Petronski

I have a mastiff and a minpin. They are beautiful, and well bred. I think their pedigrees are longer than my own....:D

Just sayin.


1,140 posted on 08/10/2008 8:17:44 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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