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Buffy the Vampire Slayer slaying church attendance among women, study claims [Ecumenical]
Telegraph ^ | August 23, 2008 | Martin Beckford

Posted on 08/25/2008 10:36:39 AM PDT by NYer

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To: JackDanielsOldNo7
It is hard finding a good church these days. All of them are full of hypocrites

Did it ever occur to you that they (we?) are the ones who need it?

21 posted on 08/25/2008 11:54:53 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at http://www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: Gamecock

I was always partial to Eliza Dushku myself, something about those Albanian chicks.

22 posted on 08/25/2008 11:56:23 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: allmendream

>>A quiz for anyone who thinks Buffy was promoting paganism...<<

A quiz for those who think “Buffy” was promoting anything.

Who told “Buffy” to wear a religious symbol around her neck.
(a director)

Who made “Buffy” die ect.?
(a writer)

Does one know that Vampires are not real?
(maybe a trick question)

Who kept “Buffy” on the air so she could confront evil, yadda, yadda, yadda?
(the sponsors)

Let’s try again. It’s make believe. It doesn’t promote anything but money for the network and sponsors. Those going to Buffy’s religion are not based in reality.


23 posted on 08/25/2008 11:59:13 AM PDT by netmilsmom (The Party of Darkness prefers to have the lights out. - Go Fierce 50!!!)
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To: netmilsmom
And honestly, if one is joining a religion because of a TV SHOW! then, bye! You don’t have a bit of grounding in reality anyway.

Very well put.

24 posted on 08/25/2008 12:01:21 PM PDT by retrokitten (is sad she wasn't choosen as the 4th American Idol judge)
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To: netmilsmom
And honestly, if one is joining a religion because of a TV SHOW! then, bye! You don’t have a bit of grounding in reality anyway.

Should we as Christians, even attempt to reach these people? Or is it just not worth the effort?

26 posted on 08/25/2008 12:10:36 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: netmilsmom

The point is that if Buffy can bring people to paganism, then there are Christian shows that would be able to bring people to Christianity.

But then for many people their first positive view of paganism is one of these shows, while they were likely raised with Christianity in the first place.


27 posted on 08/25/2008 12:11:34 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: dan1123

>>Should we as Christians, even attempt to reach these people? Or is it just not worth the effort?<<

If you’re asking my opinion, I think we should do two things.

1. Start teaching our own the difference between fake and real. Get the tvs out of the bedrooms and discuss. Kids are, too many times, left without reinforcement from parents on this issue.
Parent - “Do you like Zac Efron?”
Child - “I love him”
Parent - “So do very many other young girls. Let’s look at the boys around here. See Daddy? He is a good man”

I see many mothers calling tv and movie characters by the show names. The kids can’t fathom that a person is not their character. Even the blending of names “Zanessa” or “Oiley” dehumanized the people who play those characters.

Start early.

2. Now for those already lost, let them mature and they will see things differently. If you try to hit them now, in their little sex filled Wiccan world, they will rebel even further. (I know this for fact with my own niece, now back to Christianity)

And in the meantime, the hand that rocks the cradle, rules the world. We are breeding them away, anyway. Raise our children right. Be open to Life.


29 posted on 08/25/2008 12:26:22 PM PDT by netmilsmom (The Party of Darkness prefers to have the lights out. - Go Fierce 50!!!)
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To: NYer
This is bad news, as women go to Church more often than men do.
30 posted on 08/25/2008 12:27:39 PM PDT by Clemenza (En Barranquilla Me Quedo)
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To: dan1123

This is an “ecumenical” thread in the Religion Forum. Antagonism is not allowed.


31 posted on 08/25/2008 12:27:50 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: antiRepublicrat

Maybe. But society itself is letting children mature sexually and yet keeping them young in decision making. The girls that are going Wiccan are screaming for attention. We did the same thing, only it was in junior high, not in our late teens and twenties.

I did a stand up report in 9th grade where I took a little supermarket book “Everyday Spells” and spun a lifestyle out of it. At the end of the report, a boy asked me, “Are you a witch?”

I slyly looked at him and said, “Oh no, no, no.” as I grinned. I had begun wearing long black dresses and shawls before that. People thought I was. I was a stupid kid trying to have people pay attention in my new school.

I matured past that within a year.


32 posted on 08/25/2008 12:32:52 PM PDT by netmilsmom (The Party of Darkness prefers to have the lights out. - Go Fierce 50!!!)
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To: netmilsmom
Are you an anti-Capitalist who thinks that just because something makes a profit that there was no other motivation for that action?

The writer of Buffy didn't JUST want to make money, he wanted to write an engaging story that turned the “damsel in distress” paradigm of horror on its head; where the “damsel” is the one who the monsters are afraid of, a sub-theme of woman empowerment in a story of good against evil.

That being said, the actual story Buffy had her....

Wearing a cross just about always.
Going to heaven when she died, and being upset about being pulled back into life.
Using a cross to repel Vampires.
Fighting against the agents of Hell.

Lets see. Wears a cross. Fights against the agents of Hell. A Cross works against the agents of Hell. Yep; promotes Paganism...no doubt about it. What a laugh.

33 posted on 08/25/2008 12:36:43 PM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7
All of them are full of hypocrites so I quit going. I worship at my house where I am not interupted."

It's too bad you quit going. The Church has had hypocrites in it from the very first. Christ himself said it would be so (wheat and tares), so don't expect it to ever change.

34 posted on 08/25/2008 12:39:41 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: NYer
The report claims more than 50,000 women a year have deserted their congregations over the past two decades because they feel the church is not relevant to their lives.

And so instead of trying to figure out why everyone thinks the church is no longer relevant so they can address the problem, the church decides to blame a TV show that has been off the air for five years?

35 posted on 08/25/2008 12:56:03 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: netmilsmom
"You could start one and fashion it after Scientology"

Instead of 'scientology' (the scientific study of science), I have discovered something called 'sophosphy' the knowledge of knowledge.

You may not know this, but one billion years ago all of the planets in the solar system were arranged in a duodecahedral pattern until the great warrior-philosopher Aristotilla the Hun ...

Oh, I'm sorry, you'll need to send me $1,000 for the rest of the story.

36 posted on 08/25/2008 1:15:27 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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I'm confused. This is a (Buffy?) Ecumenical...a (vampire?) Ecumenical...a (paganism?) Ecumenical...a (wiccan?) ecumenical...an (attractive actress?) Ecumenical...a (feminist?) Ecumenical....a (Christian?) Ecumenical???

Seriously, folks...what IS the topic here?

37 posted on 08/25/2008 1:18:06 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Romney supporters' sixth sense...."Mommy, I see BIGOTS EVERYWHERE......WAHHHH!)
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To: netmilsmom
Wicca is a made up religion that morphs into whatever the person wants. People who follow Wicca don’t like rules and therefore LOVE Wicca (I have some in my family) I have a niece who joined Wicca because of Xena Warrior princess. I kid you not.

Meh. It's tough to get worked up about Wicca. It's a harmless religion for chubby bi-sexual chicks who want to hang out naked in the woods.

If Christianity doesn't work for these women, so be it- better this than them becoming Muslims or something harmful.

38 posted on 08/25/2008 1:23:36 PM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: Gamecock

no at all.


39 posted on 08/25/2008 1:24:17 PM PDT by ichabod1 (It's all fun and games until Russia starts invading Eastern Europe (pete))
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7
All of them are full of hypocrites so I quit going. I worship at my house where I am not interupted.

And even there, there you are!

40 posted on 08/25/2008 1:25:54 PM PDT by ichabod1 (It's all fun and games until Russia starts invading Eastern Europe (pete))
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