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Pat Robertson's Improper Predictions (Televangelist and God are apparently not on speaking terms)
CMR ^ | January 5, 2009 | Patrick Archbold

Posted on 01/05/2009 10:44:12 AM PST by NYer

For the uninitiated, every year televangelist Pat Robertson has predictions dressed up as prophecy. He contends that the Lord speaks to him [in his heart presumably] and let's him know about things for the future.

Now don't get me wrong, I think that God can and sometimes does speak to people. He does this for His reasons. I must admit that I don't think that God and Pat are on very good speaking terms.

Now I have made my predictions for 2009. Prescient or imbecilic, they are mine. Other than creating my weak little brain, God had nothing to do with it. The stupidity is my own. Pat is not satisfied with such personal prognostication so he often infuses them with the aura of a prophetic word. To Robertson's ear, the Lord is a part time commodities trader.

"The Lord said the dollar is going to go down dramatically," Robertson said in the interview. "If I'm hearing him right, gold will go to about $1900 dollars an ounce and oil to $300 a barrel."
Does God really inspire his own to predict commodities futures? Now I am not saying that Pat is wrong, just presumtuous to claim this is from God. For instance, Pat says:
Socialist policies and massive government spending, Robertson told Meeuwsen, could lead to heavy hyperinflation, sending prices through the roof and the value of the dollar through the floor.
I have said as much in my predictions, but I think it would be rather uppity of me to claim God's imprimatur.

It is one thing to make a fool of yourself with faulty predictions, quite another to smear God with your own stupidity. Pat has done just that in the past. In the past Robertson has predicted a massive attack on U.S. soil [2007], predicted that the Republican would retain congress [2006 - Ouch!], a tsunami to hit the U.S. in 2006, the stock market will surge this year [2005: Closed down 67 points for the year. And so on.

Do your predictions Pat, they are very entertaining even if mostly spectacularly wrong. Just stop claiming that God is telling you these things. It's embarrassing.


TOPICS: Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: bho2008; patrobertson; predictions; robertson; socialism; televangelist

1 posted on 01/05/2009 10:44:12 AM PST by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

FWIW ping!


2 posted on 01/05/2009 10:44:40 AM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

To make those predictions one only needs to follow the news, not God. Although I think what he predicts will take a few years to come to fruition.


3 posted on 01/05/2009 10:46:40 AM PST by DonaldC
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To: NYer
...He contends that the Lord speaks to him...

Pat Robertson had a similar gig; God will kill me if you don't donate a million dollars...

Went up in his prayer tower to await the results.

4 posted on 01/05/2009 10:47:33 AM PST by ex91B10 (So many opinions, so little time...)
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To: NYer

“televangelist Pat Robertson “

Robertson isn’t a televangelist. He’s a journalist and politician.


5 posted on 01/05/2009 10:48:50 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: NYer

I once had a dream about sugar futures and it was one of my best trades ever.


6 posted on 01/05/2009 10:48:54 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: DonaldC
I think what he predicts will take a few years to come to fruition...

With not knowing the time frame or in this case, getting it wrong, it is not a prophecy. To say, for example, that a tsunami will strike the United States is not a prophecy, it is stating the obvious as historically, it has happened and will happen again. It would be prophetic if he where correct on the time and not be something that is a known cyclical. (ie, it is not prophecy to say the sun will rise at 6:45am tomorrow morning). All he is doing is making statements of generic events that most likely will happen, and claiming it is prophecy.

7 posted on 01/05/2009 10:50:24 AM PST by mnehring
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To: NYer

My poor aunt and uncle live on prophecies. My uncle has had congestive heart failure for five years. Four years ago his kidneys had shut down completely. Now I’ll give you that I was pleasantly surprised he made it through that (pumping gallon of fluid out of his chest hourly) and still is living four years later, but he has lost both legs to diabetes and can’t sit up. I love my aunt and uncle dearly, and hate to see him suffer. I pray he is around for a long time though.

But someone in their church gave a “prophecy” that God would heal him and he would become whole. At 70 years old, he’ll do good to go to the bathroom in the near future.

I have seen miracles, and I have seen death while praying for miracles. I just don’t hold much weight on “prophecy”.

Especially by TV Evangelicals who say he is “remarkably pleased” with Barack Obama when this man has stated he is going to remove ALL restrictions on abortion and give $1 Billion dollars to an abortion company.

Forgive my skepticism.


8 posted on 01/05/2009 10:51:53 AM PST by autumnraine
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To: NYer

I predict a bunch of fools will send Pat Robertson too much of their money this year.


9 posted on 01/05/2009 10:52:40 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: NYer
Robert Tilton 'kiss the prophet' bbq bib.

10 posted on 01/05/2009 10:53:15 AM PST by evets (beer)
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To: NYer

Pat Robertson’s predictions were sent to me as well. I thought of posting them and then decided that I had better things to do. You did it with commentary at least. People like predictions in uncertain times.


11 posted on 01/05/2009 10:59:28 AM PST by beejaa
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To: AppyPappy
Robertson isn’t a televangelist. He’s a journalist and politician kook.

Corrected.

12 posted on 01/05/2009 10:59:43 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: NYer

I’m a Christian and find Robertson a big fraud. He is less accurate on these things than Nostradamus - and I think he was on LSD.


13 posted on 01/05/2009 11:01:48 AM PST by discipler (We have our celebrities too, but they are a slightly better breed of celebrity.)
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To: NYer
"But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them –- bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping" (2 Peter 2:1-3 NIV)
14 posted on 01/05/2009 11:01:51 AM PST by kalee
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To: ex91B10

Don’t you mean Oral Roberts?


15 posted on 01/05/2009 11:02:19 AM PST by kalee
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To: kalee

You are correct sir; my old mind isn’t what it used to be!


16 posted on 01/05/2009 11:03:51 AM PST by ex91B10 (So many opinions, so little time...)
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To: ex91B10

Try Oral Roberts.


17 posted on 01/05/2009 11:04:09 AM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: autumnraine

I am 49 and can recall how in late 70’s and early 80’s it was Pat Robertson predicting Armageddon. There is always a new generation to buy into his bologna.


18 posted on 01/05/2009 11:04:45 AM PST by discipler (We have our celebrities too, but they are a slightly better breed of celebrity.)
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To: evets

Now THATS a fraud.


19 posted on 01/05/2009 11:05:08 AM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: ex91B10

I’m a ma’am, lol


20 posted on 01/05/2009 11:05:13 AM PST by kalee
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To: mnehrling

And he blows it when it gets specific. Remember the hurricane he said God sent to smite the people in Florida gay days when it was heading straight for them? It veered away and slammed right into Robertson’s headquarters.


21 posted on 01/05/2009 11:05:21 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

That was funny..


22 posted on 01/05/2009 11:07:14 AM PST by mnehring
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To: ex91B10

That was Oral Roberts. I remember most Pat Robertson speaking on the night that Desert Storm started, predicting a striking victory (ok, he got that right), an economic boom in 1992 (uh, oh, not so right) and a landslide reelection victory for Bush 41 (not a chance). Oh, they weren’t his predictions, according to Robertson, that’s what God told him was going to happen.


23 posted on 01/05/2009 11:09:29 AM PST by mak5
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To: NYer

Nothing like making fun of Fundamentalist Protestants to get conservatives united (and to make up for all the superstitions of all those illiterate Mayan peasants).


24 posted on 01/05/2009 11:09:38 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Liyshu`atkha qivviyti, HaShem!)
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To: NYer
In this day and age, any "prophecy" that involves terrorism, hurricanes, the stock market, the stupidity of US government and any other subject we see in the news every freakin' day is NOT prophecy. It's the equivalent of my annual prediction that the Steelers will make the playoffs and blow it. It doesn't always happen - but usually it does. I'm an NFL prophet!

If you read the Bible, much of the prophecy got the prophet in a lot of trouble because it was so outrageous, i.e., the listeners could not believe that would ever happen to them.

Pat needs to retire - he's just an attention whore at this point.

25 posted on 01/05/2009 11:10:28 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: NYer

At least Carson was entertaining when he made his predictions.


26 posted on 01/05/2009 11:14:43 AM PST by PompeiusMagnus
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To: autumnraine

My mom lives off his show....for the past twenty-five years. My dad tolerates her watching the show...but the minute she tries to preach on him with the “700” Christian-pretender game...he quietly corrects her.

Pat and the rest of his crew...are all pretenders...and comical ones at that. They use the simple approach...sprinkle in some Christian themes....a couple of quotes from Moses...and the crowd follows them around. The minute he acts as some authority on oil production, tax revenue, social security or Cuba...they make themselves into fools.

This comment last Friday of God telling him that socialism is “ok”...probably ranks as the biggest joke ever on the show. I’m pretty sure that my mom preached on this topic to my dad for about ten minutes until he unloaded on her...you accept help from your family or your friends....but not the US government. Whatever you earned in life....was your life’s value or simply dumb luck, but we never take redistribution or wealth from some other fool. If my mom’s lucky....she might still be able to watch the “700 Club”...if not...she’s watching some Spanish language channel with lots of puppet shows.


27 posted on 01/05/2009 11:15:44 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: discipler
I’m a Christian and find Robertson a big fraud. He is less accurate on these things than Nostradamus - and I think he was on LSD.

LOL. Nostradamus lived before LSD was invented. So you think Captain Trips (Jerry Garcia) and Pat Robertson have this LSD usage in common? Can Pat play the guitar?

28 posted on 01/05/2009 11:20:00 AM PST by dmz
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To: NYer
In the interview with Meeuwsen, Robertson assures Americans that contrary to many economists' opinions, the economic recovery will be swift.
"Cast off the gloom and the doom," Robertson says, "because things are getting ready to turn around."
....."The Lord said the dollar is going to go down dramatically," Robertson said in the interview. "If I'm hearing him right, gold will go to about $1900 dollars an ounce and oil to $300 a barrel."


Is it just me or do these "prophecies" seem to be mutually exclusive?
29 posted on 01/05/2009 11:25:23 AM PST by slumber1
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To: pepsionice

I love all the “words” Pat gets about people with this or that ailment that is being healed at the moment Pat is speaking, but somehow the Holy Spirit never can seem to impart to Pat the name and city and state of the healed person. Why would the Spirit of Truth play guessing games with Pat or the rest of us? He wouldn’t.


30 posted on 01/05/2009 11:47:02 AM PST by Cecily
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To: NYer

How would anyone prove that God did not tell him these things?


31 posted on 01/05/2009 11:50:55 AM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Remember the hurricane he said God sent to smite the people in Florida gay days when it was heading straight for them? It veered away and slammed right into Robertson’s headquarters.

ROFL ... I missed that :-0

32 posted on 01/05/2009 11:54:19 AM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

Pat Robertson is a psychotic goon who’s going to rot in hell for his vanity.


33 posted on 01/05/2009 12:05:01 PM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a few things in my life I'm not proud of, and the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: evets
The Ultimate Robert Tilton Farting Video
34 posted on 01/05/2009 12:12:27 PM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: stuartcr

Deuteronomy 18:21-22: You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?” If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.


35 posted on 01/05/2009 12:13:48 PM PST by Cecily
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To: Cecily

Perhaps God has a sense of humor and wanted Pat to look stupid? Would that mean if something Pat predicts does come true, God really did speak to him?


36 posted on 01/05/2009 12:20:33 PM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“Nothing like making fun of Fundamentalist Protestants to get conservatives united”

You ought to try being a Mormon around here.


37 posted on 01/05/2009 12:25:23 PM PST by freeplancer (McCain Voters Catch the Lobsters-Obama Voters Eat Them)
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To: stuartcr

“Perhaps God has a sense of humor and wanted Pat to look stupid?”

If so, then God plays this joke on Pat and many other so-called televangelists all the time. It doesn’t seem to stop people from sending them money, though.

“Would that mean if something Pat predicts does come true, God really did speak to him?”

Given Pat’s long track record of false prophecies, I would doubt it.


38 posted on 01/05/2009 12:31:24 PM PST by Cecily
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To: freeplancer
You ought to try being a Mormon around here.

Yes, mormons get bashed a lot here. I know.

But the hostility to the religious culture of the American Heartland by the alleged "one true church" (Catholic, Orthodox, Non-Chalcaedonian, Non-Ephesene, what-have-you), when expressed in terms identical to those of the liberals, is really an atrocity.

At least mormons get called devil-worshipers and such like. There's no effete sniffing about "simple-minded fools" who believe in the supernatural (by people whose religion teaches bilocation, glowing corpses, and magical rose petal smells). And the pooh-poohing of the Fundamentalist attachment to America as the special country, naive as it is, is gag-inducingly hypocritical by the pompous children of Holy Mother Russia, Holy Spain, or the Greeks Who Invented Western Civilization.

No wonder so many conservatives hate Sarah Palin. She's a bigoted Bible-thumper alienated from the Ancient Unchanging Evolutionism of the apostles and church fathers.

39 posted on 01/05/2009 2:16:45 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Liyshu`atkha qivviyti, HaShem!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

>Nothing like making fun of Fundamentalist Protestants to get conservatives united (and to make up for all the superstitions of all those illiterate Mayan peasants).

Um, Pat Robertson is as Protestant as those illiterate Mayan peasants, and a heck of a lot more dishonest. They might be misled, but he is a false teacher. Fundi? Maybe, if you take it in the broadest sense.

He IS a false prophet, saying that God says this and that, dishonoring the word that God did indeed speak through the real prophets and that Jesus and the apostles spoke. You will know them by their fruit, and Pat does nothing but spout lies that God spoke to him. Such trees will be thrown in the fire.

May Pat be granted the repentance that is called for, and if he is lucky, he will be saved as if he was dragged through fire. I see little that even suggests that he is born again, and I fear those that defend him seek to have their ears tickled and have no want for that which God did breath out to His ekklesia, the scriptures.


40 posted on 01/05/2009 5:41:09 PM PST by Ottofire (Philippians 1:21: For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.)
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To: Cecily

I don’t understand why people send them money, myself. Seems like people can pray by themselves, and it shouldn’t cost money.


41 posted on 01/05/2009 6:18:27 PM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: Ottofire

I’m not a chr*stian, but I do recognize liberal scorn when I see it. And many of the comments on this board sound like they came from Hollywood.


42 posted on 01/05/2009 6:51:46 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Liyshu`atkha qivviyti, HaShem!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Here’s some conservative scorn. About once a year PR makes a really stupid statement in public and then winds up apologizing or retracting it. If his comments are from God, why would he retract them?


43 posted on 01/05/2009 6:55:10 PM PST by nufsed
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To: NYer
I actually had newfound respect for Reverend Chuckles when he called for the assasination of Hugo Chavez.

Sorry, Pat. Reverend Ike is my man...

44 posted on 01/05/2009 6:57:36 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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