To: Iscool; Cvengr; topcat54; Lee N. Field; Quix; Star Traveler
If that is "reading what Scripture plainly says," I would hate to see you parse words.
Whoa, What happened here??? Now there's an odd thing, isn't it...Over there in James, Abraham is NOW justified by works...
What happened is that you quoted Scripture piecemeal, out of order, and out of context in order to squeeze a poorly formulated point from it.
Some people can get to God through Jesus Christ...(in Christ, Christ in you)...Others can get to God but not necessarily through Jesus Christ but 'by' the authority of Jesus Christ...
Why then is it constantly denied that dispensation theology asserts that there is one salvation for the nation state of Israel and another for everyone else.
But then you have to be a dispensationalist to get this...
I suppose one would need to be a dispensationalist to understand it because it makes about as much sense Biblically as the theological prowess displayed earlier in the reply.
I'd say you don't know dispensational theology...
Two things here...Jews will be saved during the Tribulation by faith in Jesus Christ AND good works...They must endure to the end (of the Tribulation, or their untimely death for their belief)...This takes place while the church, the body of Christ is in Heaven attending her wedding and the Marriage Supper of the Lamb...
Oh no, I understand it well enough. You have simply restated what I have asserted in different terms. Still, you say the redemptive work of Christ is not necessary for Jews because they get a "second chance" post rapture.
posted on 03/04/2009 3:00:25 PM PST
("I consider looseness with words no less of a defect than looseness of the bowels" -John Calvin)
Still, you say the redemptive work of Christ is not necessary for Jews because they get a "second chance" post rapture.
No, I don't say...The Scripture saith...
During the Tribulation there will be 144,000 Jews going thru the land witnessing for Jesus...Many will be saved, if they endure to the end (of the Tribulation)...Many will not...
When Jesus shows up, there's going to be lots of killin'...Will everyone die??? No...Will those folks need the redemptive work of Jesus on the Cross??? No...They will have the Almighty God, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords standing right there in front of them...They will accept Him as their Messiah or not...
It will take about 7 years to clean up the mess of the battle...Jesus will sit on His throne in Jerusalem for 1000 years, ruling over the Nations with a rod of iron, and be a King to His people...
And that's the conclusion you come to when you believe the words of God instead of calling them symbolic, or a metaphor that you have no idea what they are a symbol of...
posted on 03/04/2009 4:46:29 PM PST
(I don't understand all that I know...)
To: raynearhood; Iscool; Cvengr; topcat54; Lee N. Field; Quix; Star Traveler
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posted on 03/05/2009 5:19:17 AM PST
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