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To: Edit35
I either watch or DVR Joel every week and I just got through watching this week's program. It was one of the most uplifting messages that I have ever heard him give. He was talking about how God is in control and can affect your life in a supernatural way. It in no way was a message about financial prosperity (pork).

I wish that people who constantly disparage Joel would actually watch his program for a few weeks! Just as Rush does, Joel gets a lot of criticism from people who are repeating what they have heard from others and not what they themselves have experienced. Just catching a few minutes of the program as you flip through the channels is not the same as watching the entire program for a few weeks.

My daughters (who introduced me to Joel when they were teenagers) went to see him in person when he came to Raleigh, NC, a couple of years ago. It was a wonderful experience. He will be in Charlotte, NC, on September 11, 2009.
15 posted on 02/25/2009 2:38:20 AM PST by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: srmorton

You didn’t even peak at the video did you? He wasn’t talking about stimulus “pork.” He was spreading lies to people to scare them away from eating pig meat.


17 posted on 02/25/2009 4:42:02 AM PST by dangus
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To: srmorton
I either watch or DVR Joel every week ...

I watch his message quite often also. I truly love him.

I felt guilty after saying tough things about him on FR.

But I truly think he goes overboard in painting this rosy scenario of what it means to be a true Christ-following Christian.

I had a 10-minute Youtube clip of one of his sermons, and he was literally promising that anyone who was born again would suddenly become wealthy within one year.

He was sounding more like a self-esteem class than a Christ follower.

Christ transforms us from the inside out, not the outside in.

That is my only point, and it is not really a deal breaker with me and Joel Osteen.

Just a comment.

18 posted on 02/25/2009 4:43:13 AM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: srmorton

AMEN. I feel the way you do. His messages are always uplifting. My son and his wife came back to church because they watched Joel Osteen. I will be eternally grateful for that. There are WAY too many critics of God’s people. God will not be happy with them.


69 posted on 02/25/2009 1:38:44 PM PST by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: srmorton

Go to 1:34.

He is completely ignoring the vision of the three sheets, among other scripture.

The more I watch of this video, the more this guy is creeping me out. I still do not understand why he is preaching on this from the pulpit.


81 posted on 02/25/2009 2:54:14 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: srmorton

Heh, heh. My bad. He mentions shellfish at 2:50.

The guy is like a snake oil salesman depending on ignorance within the listeners. Instead of discussing the digestive system of the pig or what shrimp and pigs eat, he should focus on the meat. What is in the stinking meat, not the food.

Maybe if a pig ate a couple of radioactive isotopes there would be something IN THE MEAT that was harmful to me.

This video is really creeping me out more. I can’t take this guy seriously. Looks like he’s a good speaker though.

He reminds me of a white Obama.


84 posted on 02/25/2009 2:58:42 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: srmorton

>>I wish that people who constantly disparage Joel would actually watch his program for a few weeks!<<

For the record, all my comments are based on what I am actually watching him say. I came to this with a clean slate.

It ain’t clean any more though. I do not like this guy.


97 posted on 02/25/2009 3:41:16 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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