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Can God create another God?
self | 2/28/09 | self

Posted on 02/28/2009 5:28:01 AM PST by fproy2222

I have been told, here at FR, that God only creates lesser beings.

Is this because he chooses not to create someone equal to Himself, or is God unable to create someone equal to Himself?


TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: god; godhood
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1 posted on 02/28/2009 5:28:01 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: fproy2222

What happened before time?


2 posted on 02/28/2009 5:29:08 AM PST by allmost
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To: fproy2222

With all respect, instead of obtaining knowledge about God why don’t you seek to know God. Ask him. He knows more about this than freepers.


3 posted on 02/28/2009 5:29:28 AM PST by lucias_clay
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To: fproy2222

Can He create a hamburger too big for him to eat? if He can then what’s the point?


4 posted on 02/28/2009 5:30:12 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (today's free oxymoron : CNN News)
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To: fproy2222
No, it's simply a logical impossibility.

There cannot exist two omnipotent beings.
5 posted on 02/28/2009 5:30:45 AM PST by mike182d ("Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?")
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To: fproy2222

“A man is praised according to his wisdom, but men with warped minds are despised.” Proverbs 12:8


6 posted on 02/28/2009 5:31:47 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: fproy2222

“is God unable to create someone equal to Himself”

Same as “can god create a rock he can’t lift???”

not relevant, not the point, sophistry. if you meant it honestly, then just go read the Bible or do some genuine research, because that kind of question is just dumb.


7 posted on 02/28/2009 5:32:02 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: fproy2222

So, if you’ve been told this at FR does that mean you believe it?


8 posted on 02/28/2009 5:33:01 AM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Off Hunting--- for the COLB)
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To: fproy2222

Fred,
It is a logical fallacy to there could be TWO or MORE omnipotent Gods (all powerful).

Neither would then be omnipotent.

ampu

... unless you want to define God down to something less than who He is presented as in the Bible. For instance, if you want to define God as the Greeks did - a pantheon of competing gods who were more powerful than humans, but competing with each other (read the Illiad). The Judeo Christian God is omnipotent.


9 posted on 02/28/2009 5:33:02 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ("I, El Rushbo -- and I say this happily -- have hijacked Obama's honeymoon.")
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To: fproy2222
If the universe is expanding, what is it expanding into?
10 posted on 02/28/2009 5:33:10 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: mike182d
There cannot exist two omnipotent beings.

put "omnipresent and eternal" in there as well, and that's my sense of it too. But it's nice to think about that hamburger somebody else mentioned.

11 posted on 02/28/2009 5:33:38 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: fproy2222

Well, there’s always God Jr, Sant0bama.


12 posted on 02/28/2009 5:34:47 AM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: lucias_clay

The BEST response: “With all respect, instead of obtaining knowledge about God why don’t you seek to know God”


13 posted on 02/28/2009 5:35:03 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: fproy2222

You mean like a guy that can fill in for him when he’s a vacation?


14 posted on 02/28/2009 5:35:32 AM PST by csvset
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To: mike182d

There cannot exist two omnipotent beings

Ask Satan, he tried it?


15 posted on 02/28/2009 5:36:13 AM PST by buck61
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To: fproy2222

It might be a question that makes no sense. There cannot be two beings who are the most powerful being in the universe.


16 posted on 02/28/2009 5:37:31 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: fproy2222

That question has all the intellectual depth of a dog chasing its tail.


17 posted on 02/28/2009 5:38:56 AM PST by John 3_19-21 ('Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past." G.Orwell)
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To: fproy2222
The Christian trinity theory defies monotheism by separating God into three separate forms that are co-equal, co-eternal and co-existent elements of one God Head, existing simultaneously.
By separating God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit and considering them three separate deities that are all different God elements of one Triadic God in various simultaneous forms of being, you are considering Polytheism, the belief in multiple God’s.


18 posted on 02/28/2009 5:47:08 AM PST by SouthDixie (We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly.)
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To: fproy2222

One God, one faith, one baptism.
The God of Israel, His only begotten Son Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, these three are one Godhead.
Father knows best.


19 posted on 02/28/2009 5:47:22 AM PST by kindred (Conservatives have 4 years to start a new conservative party or lose more elections.)
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To: fproy2222
I have been told, here at FR, that God only creates lesser beings. Is this because he chooses not to create someone equal to Himself, or is God unable to create someone equal to Himself?

Why don't you ask Him? You can toss in the question concerning the numeric value of angels on the head of a pin. Such questions don't really serve any purpose other than as mental wedges aimed at the faithful.

While you are asking questions, stop by your local university physics department and ask them to give you just one explanation for the creation of matter from nothing. If they don't have one, ask them for just one explanation for the infinite existence of matter.

20 posted on 02/28/2009 5:47:30 AM PST by SampleMan (Socialism and Liberty are mutually exclusive.)
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To: SouthDixie

[Polytheism, the belief in multiple God’s.]

Not according to the Scriptures of God. Only Scripture.


21 posted on 02/28/2009 5:49:11 AM PST by kindred (Conservatives have 4 years to start a new conservative party or lose more elections.)
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To: 1rudeboy; fproy2222
If the universe is expanding, what is it expanding into?

That is a fun question. The universe is curved, it is expanding into itself. Remember time and distance are variables. If you could travel in any direction out to the edge of the Universe, you will find yourself headed back here again.

22 posted on 02/28/2009 5:51:29 AM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you can’t reason someone out of something that they didn’t reaso)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out; John 3_19-21; SampleMan
If this question is so pointless, then why not simply provide an explanation as to why as others have done? Regardless of the original poster's intention, such questions should be easily and readily answered.

Simply saying "that's a dumb question" just turns people off to faith.

23 posted on 02/28/2009 5:52:43 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: fproy2222

“You get no bread with one meatball.”


24 posted on 02/28/2009 5:52:55 AM PST by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: pnh102

No, a truthful answer is best. Others gave it the softly-softly approach, but knowing God is about knowing truth, and the truth is, it’s a dumb question. Questioner should consider why it is a dumb question and do some research.

Understanding the difference between the dumb and the reasonable is one of the greatest gifts God gives through his word


25 posted on 02/28/2009 5:55:43 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: LeGrande
Ok, let's throw Euclidean space out the window. [there it goes]

Wouldn't your theory depend on whether space is positively or negatively curved?

26 posted on 02/28/2009 5:56:23 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: fproy2222

Maybe God realizes that if you want something done right you have to do it yourself.


27 posted on 02/28/2009 5:57:04 AM PST by omega4179 (Jindal MMXII)
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To: fproy2222

God was not created. He always was (”I AM”), is, and always will be. He is eternal, omnipotent. He created everything else. He probably smiles at us trying to figure Him out. Don’t worry about trying to get your mind around how vast he is.


28 posted on 02/28/2009 5:58:14 AM PST by NewCenturions
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To: fproy2222

You’ve asked a good question, fred. I hope you seriously consider these fine answers you’ve recieved.

There is none greater than God - or even his equal. He is all powerful, all knowing, ever present. Infinite in His glory!


29 posted on 02/28/2009 6:00:37 AM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: fproy2222; greyfoxx39

what do you want to hear ? - not to ascribe motive, but it seems youre fishing for a polytheistic answer to fit your doctrine....which is ?


30 posted on 02/28/2009 6:00:48 AM PST by PfluegerFishin
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To: SumProVita

Amen & Amen!!!!!
A.S.K.= Ask, Seek, Knock

“Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto thee.” (Matthew 7:7)

“For whoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” (Romans 10:13)


31 posted on 02/28/2009 6:07:25 AM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonyous)
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To: fproy2222

Silly person - was not Obama just created to lead you down the path to the Garden of Earthly Delights?

:-)

My apologies to Bosch.


32 posted on 02/28/2009 6:09:49 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru
Can God create another God?

You mean like a divine budding?
33 posted on 02/28/2009 6:11:10 AM PST by aruanan
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To: fproy2222

There are a million things God is unable to do; lie, cheat, murder, you name the sin God can’t do it.


34 posted on 02/28/2009 6:18:46 AM PST by DManA
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To: pnh102
Regardless of the original poster's intention, such questions should be easily and readily answered.

Why? There isn't any point in it. Its not our's to know the mind of God.

Simply saying "that's a dumb question" just turns people off to faith.

I didn't say it was a dumb question. It is a pointless question. Would you also feel obliged to answer whether God wears boxers or briefs? Treating the faith seriously, as it should be, doesn't turn people off to it. However, I think that treating it like a game of Dungeons and Dragons does.

35 posted on 02/28/2009 6:18:51 AM PST by SampleMan (Socialism and Liberty are mutually exclusive.)
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To: fproy2222

I’ve found that it is vanity to attempt to wrap my human logic around the infinite magnificence that is my Creator.


36 posted on 02/28/2009 6:19:11 AM PST by Hazwaste (Liberals love the average American the same way that foxes love the average chicken.)
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To: DManA

Including “Thou shall have no gods before me”.


37 posted on 02/28/2009 6:19:41 AM PST by DManA
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To: fproy2222; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...
Is this because he chooses not to create someone equal to Himself, or is God unable to create someone equal to Himself?

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I'm waiting for the "you only tell a "half-truth" responses.

38 posted on 02/28/2009 6:27:18 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (buckle in for 4 more years of detached, grandstanding flourish left untethered by an incurious media)
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To: gusopol3

Which God are we referring to?
The jealous and vindictive one of the Old Testament, or the loving
One in the New Testament?


39 posted on 02/28/2009 6:30:33 AM PST by jrg
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To: fproy2222

I have been told, here at FR, that God only creates lesser beings.
__________________________________________

When did that happen ????


40 posted on 02/28/2009 6:31:10 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39

Oh my my my...


41 posted on 02/28/2009 6:33:23 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: greyfoxx39; fproy2222

I really pray that fred is searching for answers. Because if he is, he will find them.


42 posted on 02/28/2009 6:33:33 AM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: fproy2222

You aren’t thinking about Jesus are you?

Jesus is begotten, not made. One substance with the Father.


43 posted on 02/28/2009 6:35:36 AM PST by DManA
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To: fproy2222
Fred when asking such a question, you should do so with a full disclaimer as to your faith since it will, and has attracted many outside of our usual group.
44 posted on 02/28/2009 6:38:27 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: jrg

“Which God are we referring to?
The jealous and vindictive one of the Old Testament, or the loving
One in the New Testament?”

Same God. Have you read Revelations??

He is also loving and holy.


45 posted on 02/28/2009 6:39:13 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ("I, El Rushbo -- and I say this happily -- have hijacked Obama's honeymoon.")
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To: ejonesie22

Perhaps he’s trying to find a reason to believe, and hasn’t yet found one...


46 posted on 02/28/2009 6:39:47 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: fproy2222
Can God create another God?

Many Democrats obviously seem to think so.


47 posted on 02/28/2009 6:40:25 AM PST by Polybius
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To: fproy2222; allmost
Can God create another God?


48 posted on 02/28/2009 6:42:47 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: fproy2222
This is the kind of question a schoolboy asks hoping to distract the teacher from her lesson plan.

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

What is the outer limits of infinity?

Was Mr. Ed really a zebra painted to look like a palamino horse?

49 posted on 02/28/2009 6:45:08 AM PST by Irish Queen (Old time teacher 1968-2000 RIP)
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To: fproy2222

And if the genie will grant me any three wishes, why can’t I wish for more wishes?


50 posted on 02/28/2009 6:48:34 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (The sun glinted off chiseled pectorals sculpted during four weight-lifting sessions each week and...)
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