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An emotional response to the age of the earth
CMI ^ | March 28, 2009

Posted on 03/29/2009 9:27:19 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: plain talk

The exact reply that one would expect from satan himself!

Satan invented the old Earth confusion, so no surprise that he expends so much energy to defend it.


21 posted on 03/29/2009 1:34:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

Human culture is older than that.

Anyway, I wouldn’t want to waste my time with an entire book of fabricated data.


22 posted on 03/29/2009 1:46:01 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: tpmintx
My personal belief that “God created the heavens and the earth” does not conflict with my interest in how it was accomplished. What better affirmation of “Let there be light” than scientific study of evidence of the Big Bang some 13 Billion years ago?

I in no way disagree with you that the Big Bang theory or an old earth disproves the Bible or the literal Genesis because they do not. My complaint is with the atheistic scientists that say they do disprove creation and the literal Genesis. Their blindness of their own God hatred makes science look like a joke. The false religious belief of Human Evolution is the best proof I can offer of that, and it's darn good proof.
23 posted on 03/29/2009 3:05:08 PM PDT by Jaime2099 (Human Evolution and the God of the Bible are not compatible)
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To: Soothesayer

==All empirical evidence supports an old Earth

Wow, that’s a very bold and all encompassing statement. Can you back it up?


24 posted on 03/29/2009 4:04:28 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: plain talk
==most evidence points to an old earth. Quite the contrary. Old Earth arguments are not based on evidence, but rather on Old Earth assumptions.
25 posted on 03/29/2009 4:07:33 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: mamelukesabre

The Bible clearly refutes old-age materialism. That’s how I know. And, as it turns out, the available scientific evidence is much more supportive of biblical creationism. As such, I will not “let it go.”


26 posted on 03/29/2009 4:10:34 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: aeonspromise

And God has specifically told His children in his Word that the Universe and everthing in was created in the span of seven normal Earth days.


27 posted on 03/29/2009 4:12:22 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: tpmintx

==My personal belief that “God created the heavens and the earth” does not conflict with my interest in how it was accomplished. What better affirmation of “Let there be light” than scientific study of evidence of the Big Bang some 13 Billion years ago?

God tells us in His Word that he accomplished the creation of the Universe and everything in it in six normal-length Earth days. There is no way for science to ever know this on its own steam, any more than it can discover the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ on its own steam.


28 posted on 03/29/2009 4:16:24 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: editor-surveyor

There is nothing to defend. I have no idea how old the Earth is nor do you ... really. But I know it is certainly not 6000 years old. If Christ were here he would mock you as the Pharisee you are and slap you down in your self-righteousness. There is zero information in the Bible regarding the age of the earth yet you claim to know somehow. Even Jesus Christ himself does not know when the end comes (only the Father) yet somehow you are mighty enough to know the earth is 6000 years old? hmmm. Away form me you Pharisee.


29 posted on 03/29/2009 4:17:38 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: GodGunsGuts

Why should I bother? How do I know you are not going to look at the technical limitations of our current dating methods and use that as an excuse to dismiss it offhand?


30 posted on 03/29/2009 4:22:31 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: bolobaby; tpmintx

The decaying spead of light was proposed over a decade ago by Big Bangers who were trying to solve their own light travel problem re: the uniformity of the CMB (cosmic microwave background).


31 posted on 03/29/2009 4:25:10 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: editor-surveyor

Then Satan is considerably smarter than God’s servants. I have yet to find an honest experimental study for Y.E.C


32 posted on 03/29/2009 4:25:15 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: 1believer

==Even though the evidence of a young earth is everywhere many are willfully ignorant because of the ramifications to their lustful nature.

Kind of reminds me of the following:

“I had motive for not wanting the world to have a meaning; consequently assumed that it had none, and was able without any difficulty to find satisfying reasons for this assumption. The philosopher who finds no meaning in the world is not concerned exclusively with a problem in pure metaphysics, he is also concerned to prove that there is no valid reason why he personally should not do as he wants to do, or why his friends should not seize political power and govern in the way that they find most advantageous to themselves. … For myself, the philosophy of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation, sexual and political.”

Aldous Huxley: Ends and Means, pp. 270 ff.


33 posted on 03/29/2009 4:28:05 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

If that’s true, then the whole religion is false.


34 posted on 03/29/2009 4:34:43 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: GodGunsGuts

With God, anything is possible..


35 posted on 03/29/2009 4:44:23 PM PDT by aeonspromise
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To: plain talk; editor-surveyor

==I have no idea how old the Earth is nor do you ... really. But I know it is certainly not 6000 years old.

You contradict yourself. First you say you have no idea how old the Earth is, then you say you are certain that it is not 6000 years old.

==If Christ were here he would mock you as the Pharisee you are and slap you down in your self-righteousness.

You are treading on dangerous ground, FRiend. First, you have no scriptural warrant for what you just imputed to Jesus Christ, the Creator of the Universe and everything in it. Second, on what scriptural basis do you conclude that Jesus Christ would be displeased with Christians who believe (on faith!) in a straightforward reading of His own account of creation?

==There is zero information in the Bible regarding the age of the earth yet you claim to know somehow.

Zero information? God tells us that He created the Universe and everything in it in six normal-length Earth days. Adam was created on the sixth day of Creation Week. Jesus Christ himself tells us Himself that He created humans male and female, right from the beginning. The Bible tells us how long Adam lived, and all the patriarchs, right down to the birth of God the Son. Does this strike you as the Bible providing zero information about the age of the Earth?

==Away form me you Pharisee.

I’m starting to think that the OP was written about you!


36 posted on 03/29/2009 4:45:18 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Soothesayer

Feel free to elaborate.


37 posted on 03/29/2009 4:46:03 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: aeonspromise

Quite true, except of course what God says He cannot do. For instance, according to God, He cannot lie. I’m sure you already know this, but I thought I’d throw that in there for any lurkers who might be reading this thread.


38 posted on 03/29/2009 4:47:54 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Soothesayer

What’s wrong with considering technical limitations, old earth assumptions, God’s Word, etc, etc?


39 posted on 03/29/2009 4:49:16 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Lets not go the direction of God cannot make a rock too big for Him to lift logic, we do not have the capacity to understand. What God says creates, the power of His word is infinite. However, I also know that for me the Bible is a beginning point of understanding, why would God put all His wisdom in a book when he is right there to ask. The Bible brings one in humility, faith, and prayer to a relationship with Him in Christ, and in that spirit, we look inside andd heavenly and say Daddy, show me your way, all I do in a fallen reality is imperfect, look at the mess I have made, the world, the hate, the lack of vision, the sins..Please Dad, I know you hear me, I know you are the alpha and omega,
Let me never deny you over that which I could not understand. I know I am but a child in the crib barely able to speak your name, but I know you are my destiny and my life. Give me your reality, give me your heart, showo me youor way and give me strength to walk it. some children have not yet formed your name on their lips, hold back your mighty hand until all in the book of life have spoken your name, then after the separation of good and evil are complete, reform the demonic in the aeon’s ahead and grant them escape from the sinful nature we chose in ignorance should they be granted another cycle, as the alpha and omega merge. oly is your name and beautiful are your ways..


40 posted on 03/29/2009 5:11:21 PM PDT by aeonspromise
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