Posted on 04/05/2009 8:10:35 PM PDT by betty boop
I’ll agree with this.
“You can always choose to be loving and respectful to humanity. The problem is that people DON’T make that choice. That’s why we have the world that we have.”
Where did you get this math?
IMO, it took many variables for this complex universe to exist as it does.
“The odds of the universe being as it is, so delicately balanced as to allow life on Earth to have reached the human condition are one in 10120.”
I don’t answer for them, nor am I familiar with those groups. I don’t belong to an organized religion or nonreligion. It comes from within for me.
“What about The High Order of Proselytizing Atheists or the Anarchists United for a Stronger Government?”
[[I wonder why LeGrande invests so much time and energy in debunking Christianity.]]
Apparently To try to justify his refusal to heed the promptings of the Holy spirit- his and many others around the world’s prevailing attitudes in the face of God’s blessings on this great nation of ours, are what are contributing to the judgements on our nations. Liberalism, which tries to exclude God, have been prophesied about (ironically enough, contrary to Legrande’s claim) in God’s word, and our once great nation, is in the beginnings of what I beleive to be perhaps the final judgement upon us for our ungrateful unbeleif and for shirking our responsibility to show God as we should have while we were being blessed. Britain and the US were spoken of in the bible, our rise to power, our being favored amoung nations, and then, now, our downfall due to unbelief. If you haven’t yet, read the following link which goes into great detail discussing this issue:
http://www.gnmagazine.org/booklets/US/
Legrande’s and other’s cosntant belittling of God and Christians was foretold in the bible, and we’re now reaping the ‘rewards’ of liberalism which proclaimed that liberal ideology was far superior to objective universal moral values- but sadly, extreme liberals are too blinded to see that- but again, their blindness, and hte resulting fall of a once great nation, were prophesied about, and our new president is also too blind to recognize that he is playing right into the hands of hte evil one.
We could repent, and becoem a great nation again, but it’s apparently too late, as more and more people like Legrande would apparently rather beleive the lies of ‘self-goodness’, and the lie that America would be better off without God and His universal moral ethics- We sadly however, are reaping what we have sown- We had a responsibility to show forth God’s greatness, and we squandered His gift of greatness for our nation, and are no longer favored amoung nations as we once were- Not to long ago, we were a great Christian nation who the world looked to for help- Us, a tiny little nation, became one of hte most powerful nations on earth and saved countless natiosn from certain destruction- but now, thanks to extreme liberalism, and itnenrational condemnation, can’t even decisevely win a war anymore! The ‘rights’ of terrorists and despots is more important to these extreme liberals in the EU than is hte deciseveness annihilation of evil!
It’s not surprising hten that folks try tso desperately to justify their disbelief by attackign those who stood firm on the truths of God’s word. If folks in disbelief go down, they are determiend to take everyone else alogn with htem- This is playing out right now in our government and in world affairs.
To raise the ‘120’ power for the ten, place ‘sup’ between less than symbol and greater than symbol, then 120, then the less than, forward slash, ‘sup’, then greater than. Other than that, I don’t do your homework for you, especially since you appear to want to be ignorant of the data.
I have never heard anyone say anything like this, until now.
If you read my posts you would see I disagree and find this a crass statement.
I’ve heard some Christians say, “Thank God for AIDS.” Do you feel like this?
“that the existence of horror and evil in the world “adds more flavor to life”
How do you know I haven’t done that? I just came to a different conclusion based on what I’ve encountered in my life.
“They can’t- but the risk SHOULD at the very least inspire someone to honestly seek to find out if God is indeed real one would htink.”
“I’ll have to dissagree here whole heartedly- He DID care enough about what you think that He gave His only Son to die for yours and my sins as the final sacrifice and propitiation.”
Didn’t Jesus rise again then go to Heaven to be with God?
I guess I don’t see this as a very impressive sacrifice for God (only Jesus) in the same way as I see the woman who lost two young sons in the Oklahoma City bombing who made a real sacrifice for a ‘sin.’
I see a lot more people suffering A LOT worse than that.
If I have to explain the cognitive differences between human and fish, you need more than what I got to offer...
“So on what grounds do you imagine that your existence has any more significance or objective purpose than that, say, of a fish? “
It came from my loving parents. THEIR love taught me these lessons.
“Exactly. And where did this awareness come from? However much or however little you realize it you have absorbed a very particular understanding of life which simply doesn’t exist everywhere.”
No doubt I have been touched by it and even internalized it, but it is not the source. My parents LOVE is the source.
“Internalized it, and forgotten its source. But indeed, it is a “part of you.” “
Truly, I am very familiar with Christianity. My grandfather was a Southern Baptist Minister. I studied much early Christian history and Western & US religions in college.
Thanks for sharing your POV though.
“Not tryign to preach at ya- or push you in any direction- but I just htink that a few of your objections might be covered by his topics- and beleive me, I’ve had many of the same objections both before AND after salvation- I’ve put God htrough hte ringer many times in my battles with Him- and have what I think are many of the very same objections you might have- so I’ve been htere- been htrough it- severely quesitoned His goodness and caring- beleive you me!”
I know you are not asking me. I never made this claim.
“Christianity is easily disproven. “
Wow. Never knew that. Thank you.
This info will come in very handy. Especially here in the The Utopian Socialist States of Obama.
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As I understood it from my undergrad days (sir thomas more had only recently died), the word utopia could be as he suggested:
eu + topos = no place
ou + topos = some place
a paradox in the word itself
Dude, I only copied and pasted what was there, I am not trying to go to math class....
Here’s one hundred, my grandmother tells me all the time I need to pray for forgiveness and worship God. Oh, and to thank him.
“I would love to hear of an instance of a Christian telling you to worship God.”
Ah yes, the ‘young woman’ arguement- what a ‘powerful’ counter argument to the bible lol-
“It has been suggested that the Hebrew word “ALMA” simply means “young
woman” and that if Isaiah had intended to refer to a “virgin” he would have
used the Hebrew word BETULAH. SO the question arises, what is an
ALMA? What is a BETULAH and why would Isaiah use the word ALMA rather than
BETULAH if it were to be a virgin birth?
The word ALMA refers to a young unmarried woman one of whose
characteristics is virginity. There is no instance where the word ALMA is
used to refer to a non-virgin. In such passages as Gen. 24:43 (compare
Gen. 24:43 with 24:16 where BETULAH appears) and Song 1:3; 6:8 ALMA
clearly refers to virgins. In fact the Hebrew Publishing Company
Translation of 1916 translates ALMA as “virgin” in Gen. 24:43 and in Song
1:3; 6:8. Moreover an ancient Ugaritic tablet was discovered which uses
ALMA in synonymous poetic parallelism as the synonymous parallel to the
cognate of BETULAH. For this reason one of the worlds leading Semitists,
Dr. Cyrus Gordon who is Jewish and does NOT believe in the virgin birth of
Yeshua maintains that Is. 7:14 may be translated as “virgin” (Almah in
Isaiah 7:14; Gordon, Cyrus H.; JBR 21:106). So why would Isaiah have used
ALMA rather than BETULAH? Because a BETULAH can be a young married woman
who is not a virgin, but pure because she is married (as in Joel 1:8).
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign;
Behold, a virgin [B’TULTA] shall conceive, and bear a son,
And call his name Immanuel.
(Is. 7:14)
The Aramaic word B’TULTA clearly means “virgin” and not simply “young lady”.
Now lets look at the Greek Septuagint reading:
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign;
Behold, a virgin [PARTHENOS] shall conceive, and bear a son,
And call his name Immanuel.
(Is. 7:14)
The Greek PARTHENOS means “virgin” and not simply “young lady”.
Thus both the ancient Aramaic and ancient Greek versions of Isaiah 7:14
understand ALMA here to refer to a virgin”
http://www.hebroots.org/hebrootsarchive/0102/010218_d.html
You missed the point. The point is not whether you have different cognitive abilities than a fish, but rather, how you account on atheist terms for your groundless assumption of significance and objective purpose for your existence.
Cordially,
You are blessed. But then you already know that. :)
Great post, B-Chan!
All that we really know of the world is how it appears to us, not what it actually is. Human perception registers incoming sense impressions, and the "picture" it produces to our mind is, well, a picture, not the reality itself. Also, that picture is itself "structured" by the capacities and capabilities of our sense organs. So we can't even say that the picture is an accurate reflection of reality as it is.
Kant argued that one can never know anything directly about the "thing in itself." All we have are the "pictures" of it.
Thank you for your wonderful post, B-Chan!
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