Skip to comments.Seven Men Named Jesus
Posted on 05/08/2009 3:35:50 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
A recent poll claimed that about half of all professing Christians dont believe that Jesus is God, or that the Holy Spirit and Satan even exist. Smaller but still significant percentages dont believe that Jesus lived a sin free life or that He is the only way to salvation. This has prompted questions about whether this means they arent really saved. I remembered an article on this subject that I wrote a number of years ago and in response to these questions I have updated and expanded it. I believe it will explain what you have to believe about Jesus to be saved. Lets read it.
The Other Six
Ever suspect while talking with someone that you may have a mutual friend? Then as you get further into the conversation you realize that you are describing two different people who happen to have the same name? So it is with discussions of Jesus. The names the same but the descriptions vary widely. Over the years Ive collected numerous descriptions of men named Jesus. Which one do you know?
First theres the Jesus of Judaism. Hes known in Jewish writings as the illegitimate son of Miriam (Mary). He lived in the first century CE (they dont use AD) and led people away from main stream Judaism into a cult. His followers were first called Netzerim (people of the branch) and later Christians. In his name Jews have been persecuted unmercifully over the centuries. Jews who admit to believing He was their Messiah are often considered dead to their families. Jews dont believe in a second coming because they dont believe theres been a first one.
Then you have the Jesus of Islam. He was a prophet and teacher on a par with Mohammed. His role was to help prepare people for the great leader from Allah coming at the end of time to judge the world. He was born of a virgin but was not the son of God because the Quran says God begets not, nor is he begotten. He didnt die for the sins of the people because in Islam salvation comes from good works. Neither was he resurrected. Instead, in a time of confusion God took him live into heaven and someone else was crucified. He will return at the end of the age to defeat the anti-Christ, call everyone to Islam, and prepare the world for judgment.
The Jesus of Mormonism is the spirit brother of Lucifer. Both are sons of a god who was once a man and one of his many wives. This Jesus became a human as the result of a sexual union between the Mormon god and an unmarried Jewish girl named Mary. Hes often called the Savior but never Lord, because although hes one of gods sons, hes not god. If he determines that youve done everything you possibly can to earn your own salvation and are still short, hell graciously make up the difference. Hell return at the End of the Age, having protected his saints through the time of Great Tribulation, to set up his kingdom.
The Jehovahs Witnesses have a Jesus too. Hes a son of Jehovah, but Hes not God. Rather, he was a perfect man just like Adam originally was. Before he became a man he was the Archangel Michael, who The Witnesses believe to be Jehovahs first created being. Just believing in Jesus is not enough to save us. we also have to become a Jehovahs Witness, be baptized, and obey Gods laws all of our life to prove ourselves worthy. Their Jesus wasnt physically resurrected, but came back to life in Spirit form. He returned to Earth in Spirit form in 1914 and will become a physical being again at Armageddon.
Then theres the Jesus of the liberal denominations. Hes a first century man who lived an exemplary life of such gentleness and grace that it was almost as if he was God. Hell see that everyone who joins their denominations gets accepted into heaven whether theyre born again or not. Some proponents of liberal theology claim that hell also see that everyone who was sincere in whatever other religion they practiced will get to heaven too. For the most part, liberal denominations dont believe in the literal fulfillment of End Time events. For many, the 2nd Coming happened to each person when they first believed in Jesus.
The New Age Jesus is really one of the oldest. He originally appeared in first century Gnosticism. This Jesus was a man who like 40 other ascended masters holds the key to knowledge (gnosis) that when learned will bring about the next phase of human evolution, a spiritual growth that will finally make peace on earth possible. He didnt die for our sins because theres no need for us to be saved.
Youll find variations on these six themes in nearly every major religion and cult around today. It seems every body wants you to think they know a man named Jesus, even if they have to redefine him to suit their beliefs.
The Real Jesus
But there is one more man named Jesus. He is not a created being. On the contrary He is our Creator. As Paul wrote in Colossians 1:16, By him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Hes not an angel and hes not a mere man, because He created both. The archangel Michael might be the first created being, but if he is, Jesus is the one who created him. And Lucifer may have many brothers, but if he does, Jesus created them all.
This is the Jesus of the Bible. He claimed to be God in the form of man (John 10:30 and 14:9). Men who knew Him agreed. Paul taught the Deity of Jesus in Colossians 1:15-16. So did John (John 1:1-3). The writer of the Book of Hebrews also agreed (Hebr 1:3) and included a quote from Psalm 45:6-7 that shows God Himself addressing Jesus as God (Hebr 1:8). And this is not just a New Testament idea. In his prophecy of the Messiahs birthplace, Micah said He was an eternal being whose goings forth were from days of eternity. Literally from before time and perpetual. (Micah 5:2) He is the eternal God.
Heres where your knowledge of Scripture becomes really important, because in order to be all the Bible claims, Jesus has to be both 100% man and 100% God. If He isnt a man He couldnt have been made like us in every way and suffered our temptations as Hebr. 2:17-18 claim; he couldnt be our High Priest as Hebr. 4:14-15 assert; and he cant be our redeemer because he wouldnt be our next of kin as required by Lev. 25:47-48 and explained in Rom 5:18-19. If He isnt God He couldnt be King Davids Lord (Matt 22:41-45) He couldnt be sinless (Rom 3:20) and He couldnt be our Savior (Mark 2:6-12 and 1 Ptr 1: 18-21).
Is This a Cult?
Three things distinguish Christian cult beliefs from orthodox theology. The cults deny the doctrine of salvation by grace alone. You have to earn at least part of the salvation they offer. They also deny the notion of eternal punishment for sin. Everyone goes to some kind of Heaven. And most importantly, they deny the deity of Jesus. They portray Him as a great man and role model; a great teacher, a prophet, even a social revolutionary, but certainly not God.
In truth Jesus was all of that. But He was also much more. He was God in the form of man; the Father dwelling in the Son (Col 1:19). To think of Jesus as anyone other than God is to reject the truth concerning Him revealed through out His Word, and to put yourself at risk of trusting in the wrong Jesus for your eternal destiny. The Jesus of the Bible is the only one of the seven men named Jesus who is able to save you.
And then there’s Jesus H. Christ, a name I hear often but have little information on.
Good point. I wonder where that came from
I was trying to be funny, but you’re right. I have no idea where that came from. Research called for. . .
I was going to make a joke about yard work.
But I won’t.
Hebrew language has NO "J's"... nor does the Greek language..
I remember the First Commandment: ‘I am the Lord thy God. You will not have strange gods before me’. So, I don’t know what to think. His way, it would seem to me, is the only way mankind could ever get along in harmony. Islam has got to be the Antichrist. Everything Mohammed preached is the exact opposite of what Jesus preached.
Wikipedia actually has an article on Jesus H. Christ, and has links which also explain theories of where the name came from. Said that Mark H. Twain used it, and talked about hearing it years earlier.
I heard that he was name Yeshua, and some how this became Jesus, even though the correct translation would be Joshua
Not quite right. In Hebrew, Jews call Christians "Notzrim," which means "Nazarenes"-- literally, "people from [the town of] Nazareth," and, by extension, followers of Jesus of Nazareth.
Apparently Arianism is harder to stamp out than we once thought.
Then they are not Christians.
Jesus was a jew that had a jewish mother/step-father that spoke hebrew.. hebrew has zero "J's"..
A recent poll claimed that about half of all professing Christians dont believe that Jesus is God, or that the Holy Spirit and Satan even exist.
What a silly and asinine poll.Or maybe they just found silly and asinine people.
If you do not accept Jesus Christ as the WORD then you are simply not a Christian. There for the people are not Christians and the poll is meaningless.
I can claim to be a Millionaire but if my bank balance shows 342 dollars then no matter what I claim I am not a millionaire...
I figure "Jesus H. Christ" came from JHC, a Christogram, or abbreviation for Jesus used by Western Christians that was derived from ICXC, the abbreviation for ΙΗΣΟΥΣ ΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ, the Greek words for "Jesus Christ."
I conducted a poll which found that 100% of self-professed atheists are in fact worshipers of the Rastazoroastrian deity Axolotl, and think themselves the reincarnated spirits of ancient Smurfs.
Of course, it was a limited sample, but MSNBC will publish it because all atheists likewise fully support Obama.
Aren’t you a great resource :-). Thank you for the info. and tip.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
No one owns the franchise; anyone can believe anything they want to about Jesus. I have yet to meet the person qualified to judge another person’s heartfelt beliefs about Jesus.
Real vs. Counterfeit Jesus ping.
The “y” in Hebrew is translated in the west as “J”, the “I” in Greek becomes “J”.
But I don’t think Jesus cares if we call him “Jesus”, “Yeshua”, or “Iasus” as long as we call Him “Lord” of our lives.
I have yet to meet the person qualified to judge another persons heartfelt beliefs about Jesus.
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What is in their heart, no. Their TEACHINGS? Yes.
As another freeper once said:
A false gospel by a false prophet will only lead to a false sense of salvation. (Godzilla).
You can judge another’s teaching but if you possess the humility Christ seemed to favor you might need to be prepared to be wrong.
So what do YOU call Him?
He scares the cats.
I don’t think your explanation is on wikipedia. Just log on and type it in.
Re: "If he determines that you've done everything you possibly can to earn your salvation and are still short, he'll graciously make up the difference." Yup, this sizes up the Book of Mormon approach: 2 Nephi 25:23: ...saved by grace AFTER ALL YOU CAN DO
Anybody wanna raise their hands & claim they've done EVERYTHING they could ever do? Spiritually? Physically? Emotionally? Relationally? Soulfully? Following thru on all good plans & priorities? No sins of omission?
What? No Takers?
Don’t forget Jesus, who cuts my mom’s grass every Thursday.
No, his name starts with an “H”
The BIBLE is not wrong. My teachings/beliefs are based upon that. I have no fear of being wrong as long as it is based upon the Word of God.
For me the litmus test for Christianity is the person work and nature of Jesus Christ. Much outside of that is minor.
Christ taught me humility. It is not arrogance to share the Word of God with others.
Wrong.... the "J" comes from latin..
Translating hebrew and greek into latin is/was a mistake..
Depends on whom I am talking to..
How is what I said wrong? Rome WAS the west (and its lingua franca was Latin.
So I was right. BTW, how many years of Latin, Greek and Hebrew have you had? Just curious.
I meant personally, or do you not talk to Yeshua?
I talk to the Holy Spirit.. who was put in charge since Jesus left..
Jesus will be back soon..
Me too. :)
Jesus will be back soon..
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On that we can agree.
I don’t accept what you say
So, after almost 500 years of Protestantism and “Bible Alone” theology about 50% of professed Christians do not believe Jesus is divine.
500 years ago, how many professed Christians would have answered that way?
Very, very few.
500 years ago(or so) people were burnt at the stake for reading the bible.. (if they could even find one)..
Agree that he is not "here"?..
“500 years ago(or so) people were burnt at the stake for reading the bible..”
No, actually no one was ever burned for reading a Bible. Reading a Bible was not considered a crime by anyone, anywhere.
“...(if they could even find one)..”
There were plenty. There were 14 editions of the Bible printed on primitive presses in the German language before Luther published his translation. That means between the 1440s and the 1520s. And those were just the Bibles in German. There were also many more that were handmade or even homemade.
500/600 years ago most people couldnt even READ..
It was those that read it to them that was burnt at the stake..
That He is returning soon.
To return you first must have left...
“500/600 years ago most people couldnt even READ..”
You’re right. And that in no way disproves anything I said. Most people can read today - and yet about half of them don’t believe Jesus is divine.
“It was those that read it to them that was burnt at the stake..”
No, again, no one was ever burned at the stake for reading the Bible since reading the Bible was not a crime. Reading the Bible aloud was not a crime either.
[ No, again, no one was ever burned at the stake for reading the Bible since reading the Bible was not a crime. Reading the Bible aloud was not a crime either. ]
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