Posted on 11/17/2009 6:46:44 AM PST by topcat54
Buy a clue.
Have a wonderful journey on the wide road of life. Mazol Tov !
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
And as for "hyper-literal interpretation"- are the men in Israel who are presently training and preparing to serve as priests in the soon-to-be-rebuilt Temple wasting their time? Are they just going through the training for kicks and giggles? Talk about "arrogant". There's no arrogance on the face of the earth worse than the fallen human being who is presented with proof positive of the ongoing fulfillment of Bible prophecy (which, if you believe God, was written by Him) and blatantly denies and lies about what is happening right in front of his face. And does so knowing that others will see that denial and be influenced to reject Christ because of it. The person who does that holds the market on arrogance. To deny God and state that part of His Scriptures are not true??? That is the definition of arrogance.
Speaking of "chopping up the Bible", and "arrogance", what did you guys do with the book of Revelation when you ripped it out of the Bible?
are the men in Israel who are presently training and preparing to serve as priests in the soon-to-be-rebuilt Temple wasting their time?
Read the epistle to the Hebrews, then you tell me.
I mean, no matter how hard one tries, there is simply no way to deny the reality of this training for the rebuilt Temple. What a terrible position to be in - having fervently denied the truth of end time Scripture and now to see future priests of the rebuilt Temple being trained to serve - a fulfillment of end time Bible prophecy.
Check the Gary DeMars archives. Maybe he has some ideas of how to keep denying the reality that Biblical prophecy is being fulfilled in our time, even as it is actually happening, without getting laughed off the planet.
I mean, no matter how hard one tries, there is simply no way to deny the reality of this training for the rebuilt Temple
In light of the completed work of Christ, is what you say they are doing a good thing?
However, the Scripture is clear on two other issues: God is not done dealing with Israel and the Jews, and God judges sin.
We know from God's Word that the Jewish temple will be rebuilt, and we know from God's Word that the Jews will be carrying on the rituals and sacrifices that they performed until their second temple was destroyed by the Romans in 70AD. We know this will happen because God said it will.
The fact that the descendants of the Old Testament Levitical priests are now in training to serve in the newly rebuilt temple is neither good nor bad; it is something that God has decreed will happen, and therefore it will come to pass and, as we are witnessing in our time, the players in that Tribulation scenario are making the preparations which will result in the fulfillment of Scripture.
God is not finished with Israel; His covenants with them are still in effect and are eternal, and the Tribulation period which is, as God put it, "The time of Jacob's (Israel's) trouble", will be a time when 144,000 Jewish people, who have come to salvation in Christ, go throughout the world spreading the Gospel, and it will be the time when, as God put it, "All Israel shall be saved". The day will come, as God promised, when the surviving remnant of His people will come to know Christ as Savior.
The fact that this training is occurring is merely another brick in the wall of ongoing fulfillment of Bible prophecy. There is no value judgment to be assigned to it; it simply must happen because the Sovereign God has decreed it.
Here's a good study series of sermons about Dispensations and the Rapture, from Mark Hitchcock at Edmond Faith Bible Church in Oklahoma. Pastor Hitchcock just put up his own blog, too, recently.
A little bit about Mark Hitchcock (because you should get to know this prophecy teacher as he's a prolific writer and a good prophecy teacher and a good teacher in general.
Mark Hitchcock is a leading Bible prophecy expert, prolific author who has penned over 20 books on the end times, senior pastor, and adjunct faculty member of the Dallas Theological Seminary. He has appeared on hundreds of radio programs and in print as well as The History Channel, MSNBC, Fox, The Glenn Beck Show, and CNN. A leading Christian voice on Mayan 2012 prophecy, he is scheduled to appear on an NBC sci-fi special related to 2012 airing fall, 2009.
A former attorney, Mark initially worked for the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals. Following a call to full-time ministry, today he serves as senior pastor of Faith Bible Church in Edmond, Oklahoma, just outside of Oklahoma City. He graduated from Dallas Theological Seminary in 1991, where he subsequently earned his doctorate in 2006 and more recently has served as an adjunct faculty member.
Hitchcock has been a contributing editor for the Left Behind Prophecy Club for many years. His new book 2012, the Bible, and the End of the World (Harvest House Publishers) will be released September 15, 2009. He has also recently released Cashless (July 1, 2009, also published by Harvest House), showing how today’s headlines foreshadow a new and vastly different economic future—a one-world economy that is consistent with Bible prophecy in Revelation 13. Some of his other titles include: The Late Great United States: What Bible Prophecy Reveals about America’s Last Days; Armageddon, Oil, and Terror; Iran the Coming Crisis: Radical Islam, Oil and the Nuclear Threat; The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse; What On Earth is Going On?; Is America in Bible Prophecy?; The Coming Islamic Invasion of Israel; Is the Antichrist Alive Today?; Seven Signs of the End Times; and What Jesus Says About Earth’s Final Days.
Hitchcock maintains an active speaking schedule, appearing frequently at prophecy conferences, seminaries, and churches. He and his wife, Cheryl, live in Edmond, Oklahoma with their two sons Justin and Samuel.
Faith Bible Church
600 N. Coltrane
Edmond, Oklahoma 73034
Phone: 405-340-1000
Fax: 405-340-7504
SERMONS
The teaching of Dispensationalim / Pastor Mark Hitchcock and Dr. Charles Ryrie
Left Behind - What's It All About? / Tim LaHaye and Gary Frazier
The Rapture
The Pre-Trib Rapture
And..., here's one to educate yourself about End Times Controversies, especially when you are challenged on the Rapture. It's about the false and heretical teachings of Preterism, which is the teaching which denies the future prophecies are related to and significant for Israel and denies that Israel is still the chosen nation before God and that it will have future significance in God's plan in the Millennial Kingdom (the 1,000 year Kingdom, before the final judgement at the Great White Throne) that Jesus, the Messiah sets up here on this earth
I would say this one is essential as it's jam packed full of necessary information. Mark Hitchcock did his Doctoral Paper on this subject at Dallas Theological Seminary and wrote a book about it, too.
About the Errors of Preterism and End Times Controversy / Pastor Mark Hitchcock
Faith Bible Church Teaching
Holy Scriptures
We teach that the Bible is the Word of God, supernaturally inspired so that it is inerrant in the original manuscripts and has been preserved by God, so that it is the divinely authoritative standard for every age and every life.
The Godhead
We teach that there is one God eternal, omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient manifesting Himself in three persons - Father, Son and Holy Spirit; one in nature, equal in attributes, essence, power and glory.
Jesus Christ
We teach that the Lord Jesus Christ is God incarnate, very God and very man, that He was begotten by the Holy Spirit, born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, and offered Himself on the cross as a substitutionary sacrifice, suffering the full penalty for sinners. He was raised bodily on the third day and ascended to the right hand of the Father, there to intercede for us as our advocate and High Priest.
Man
We teach that man, as a consequence of Adam's sin, is subject to the wrath of God, justly condemned in His sight, wholly unable to save himself. Although man was originally created in the image of God, apart from God's salvation through Christ man is eternally lost.
Salvation
We teach that salvation is wholly by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and entirely apart from any ordinance, ritual, human merit or works. Salvation is the free gift of God and once it is received it cannot by any means be lost. While sin may interrupt the joy of a believers fellowship with God and bring the loving discipline of the Father, the true believer is eternally secure.
Spiritual Gifts
We teach that Christ gives to each believer, at conversion, by the ministry of the Holy Spirit, some gift or gifts to equip him to serve the Lord and edify other believers.
The Church
We teach that the universal Church consists of all true believers in the Lord Jesus Christ from Pentecost to the Rapture. Each local assembly or church should be a miniature of the universal Church, expressing the great truths of the latter. The local assembly consists of believers in the Lord Jesus Christ who meet regularly for teaching, fellowship, breaking of bread, prayer and evangelism.
Ordinances
We teach that there are two Christian ordinances: water baptism and the Lord's Supper. Baptism is the testimony of a believer showing forth in solemn and beautiful emblem his faith in the crucified, buried and risen Savior, and his union and identification with Him in death to sin and resurrection to a new life. We teach that the Lord's Supper serves as a commemoration and proclamation of Jesus' death until He comes.
Last Things
We teach the following future events: the personal, imminent coming of the Lord Jesus to rapture the Church, the tribulation period, the second coming of Christ, the millennial reign of Christ, the judgment of the lost, and the eternal state.
And here is the Faith Bible Church page with all the sermons on it.
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**Buy a clue***
I just figured if you were going to pretend to be the accuser you could at least accuse me for the right reasons instead of the wrong ones. You know, wouldn’t want you to bear a false witness over lies. Oh, wait, nevermind. ;)
Sincerity is a necessity (of belief/faith)for saving grace, not just words.
That's one theory.
When considered everything that we can not test ...IE. fire burns, gravity, water seeks its own level and other testable ideas, moon landing, acorns grow to be oak trees ... and like kind.
Most all else ... medical ideas change and morph regularly, values are changing, educations has been and is changing for the worst, criminal laws are changing, as are punishments, law is morphing before our eyes, death panels are a vast jump into giving others the power to decide who has right to live or die, and so forth
Name something not changing. It is all based on theory. Often wrongly motivated.
God help us in our day, in Jesus name, amen.
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