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To: GonzoII
Funny, I remember many Orthodox here complaining about how political the Western churches were, and how we should shut up about certain things.

Oh well, this is good to see.

3 posted on 11/26/2009 8:57:12 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

I disagree. I have the greatest respect for the MP, but on this one he is wrong. He should stay out of it.


8 posted on 11/26/2009 5:42:05 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: redgolum
Funny, I remember many Orthodox here complaining about how political the Western churches were, and how we should shut up about certain things. Oh well, this is good to see.

That has certainly been a valid observation until this came up. Yet, out of 16 sui juris Orthodox Churches, only the Church of Greece and Russia are making a spectacle of themselves, each for her own reasons.

The worst thing is utter hypocrisy which these silly protests reveal, making their arguments even more ridiculous. In Italy, as well as Greece or Russia (I don't have statistics about Poland or Cyprus), regular church attendance is about 5-6% of the officially baptized. This is pretty much even throughout Europe.

Italians live a completely secular life. That is obvious at their beaches, on their television, fashion, movies, mannerisms, and even their own prime minister (a conservative!) who is married and who just can't stay out of scandals involving prostitutes!

Yet, for some reason crucifixes in public schools are an absolute "cultural" must! This is the same type of hypocrisy one finds with married Mafiosos, who dutifully receive communion, wear crucifixes around their necks, and routinely have girlfriends on the side, while going about their "business" as usual!

9 posted on 11/26/2009 5:54:26 PM PST by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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