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Posted on 12/08/2009 11:41:52 AM PST by Gamecock
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I am Roman Catholic and I am a Christian....and there is only one judge......God.
Seems the OPC is much more loving than many of the Roman Catholics on my favorite conservative news site.
Another grotesque anti-Catholic conceit oozing from the tarry-black pit of the Orthodox Calvinist vipers.
Did you read the article?
Isn’t that between the individual Catholic and God, as is the same for every other individual of any and all denominations?
Feel the love:
However, I have lesser hope for people who are self-consciously Roman Catholic; that is, they understand the issues yet continue in the way of the Papacy.
I know you’d rather not call you out on the anti-Catholic bigotry, but please, for the sake of your own pride, you’ve got to do better than that.
Considering the Papists around here think Proddies are all lost that is quite funny
You’ll win a lot of converts with such uplifting and inspiring diatribes.
Didn't you know? Christians are judged by God, but Catholics are judged by Calvin.
Which "Papists" are they?
The Catholic Church doesn't teach that.
So is Hobbs the bailiff?
Coming from the Calvinist side of things as you are,
I ask are people who believe that your soul cannot be turned a Christian? Isn’t that the entire premise of the religion?
The tea kettle in that picture is brown.
Yes...and I stand by my statement.
Not that Calvin, you silly goose. Jean Cauvin, the French lawyer.
To be nice to you during the Christmas Season, I am just going to say “No comment”...
Whnever I see "Mary worship" I know that person is too ignorant of facts or has been brainwashed by some hillbillies.
No, Hobbs is the defense attorney
just ask a protestant who wrote and kept the bible for the first 1200 years or so......
I have never heard anyone in real life refer to themselves as a "Roman Catholic". Catholics refer to themselves and their faith as simply Catholic. You do not sound authentic to me.
I call them DENIERS.
However, I can tell you that I have not experienced anything like "Mary worship". Even today, the feast day of the Immaculate Conception does not indicate to me a displacement of Jesus. Rather, we celebrate the lives of Mary and all the saints who share in our worship of Jesus.
As I understand it, we ask Mary to pray for us, to intercede on our behalf. I find that no more unusual than offering to say a prayer for a suffering friend. That friend may ask me to say a prayer for them, just as I ask Mary to say a prayer for me.
Also, I say prayers for others who have gone. Whether they are saints or whether they are friends, family or co-workers. I don't expect them to answer a prayer as God would, but rather, it's simply a type of correspondence-a way of keeping them in my mind while I'm here on earth and they are with God.
I find nothing at all unusual or insulting to God that we constantly remember and revere the people who have gone. And never in my brief teachings in the Catholic church have I been led to believe that any of these people are God or Jesus' equal.
An Orthodox Presbyterian would never lie about the Catholic Church....no, never!
There is no such thing as “Mary Worship.”
Catholics have told protestants this time and time again.
We ask Mary to intercede with her Son and pray for us. That’s it.
PS. Have you ever asked anyone to pray for you? Same thing.
To be fair, I believe a bunch of Jewish fishermen, carpenters, rebels and tax collectors were.
More than that: the author is republishing it without refuting it, serving only to spread it further.
That's not mere nonfeasance, but rather true malfeasance.
Someone forgot a line of the Nicene Creed. If they really need to ask what the headline of this thread is about look up the Creed, hint katholikos.
I had never prayed to someone to pray for me.
As a Catholic of many, many years, Your reply was very, very good. God Bless.
I think he does okay. One of the challenges of the sola fide view is where to put sincere error. One wants to avoid making right-belief a “work”. As I say, I think he does okay. Not bad IMHO.
I believe ‘Intercessory Prayer’ is a mainstay of Fundamentalist Protestantism. It is considered one of the gifts of the Spirit.
(I’m Anglican so all of y’all hate me :-> )
I’m a CATHOLIC!!! Of course we don’t do MARY WORSHIP> you really misread what I said.
And those apsstles were given the Sacrament of Orders by Jesus Christ himself.
“Receive the Holy Spirit, whose sins you forgive, they are forgiven them; whose sins you hold bound are held bound.”
“Go, therefore, baptizing all in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”
Who are you to judge someone elses servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
The bible is the answer. If you havent read it (and most Christians have not) you are uninformed about your own religion.
Do not use potty language - or references to potty language - on the Religion Forum.
The question of course is, by what authority can this church pose the question, much less give a response.
Good, balanced article.
If you trust in the Lord Jesus Christ, you will be saved, even if you hold some false doctrines. I’m all in favor of sound doctrine, but it’s Christ who saves us, and not the soundness of our doctrine.
Thank you for posting “How old is your Church”!! It just amazes me that Protestants DENY THESE FACTS.
48. Let all, therefore, try to approach with greater trust the throne of grace and mercy of our Queen and Mother, and beg for strength in adversity, light in darkness, consolation in sorrow; above all let them strive to free themselves from the slavery of sin and offer an unceasing homage, filled with filial loyalty, to their Queenly Mother. Let her churches be thronged by the faithful, her feast-days honored; may the beads of the Rosary be in the hands of all; may Christians gather, in small numbers and large, to sing her praises in churches, in homes, in hospitals, in prisons. May Mary’s name be held in highest reverence, a name sweeter than honey and more precious than jewels; may none utter blasphemous words, the sign of a defiled soul, against that name graced with such dignity and revered for its motherly goodness; let no one be so bold as to speak a syllable which lacks the respect due to her name.
> I came out of that religion about 25 years ago after reading for myself what the Bible had to say.
So then what is the problem?
Do you think you been missed?
Regarding the practice of asking Mary to pray for us ... I’ve never talked to a dead person. Not sure there’s much value in doing so.
Mary was a special woman, a chosen vessel through whom the Messiah would come. But she’s dead, unable to hear all the prayers sent her way.
Instead, let’s pray directly to the Lord, and invite our (living) friends to join us.