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1 posted on 12/10/2009 9:47:58 AM PST by NYer
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Finally ... a reasonable and realistic view on life in the universe.


2 posted on 12/10/2009 9:49:07 AM PST by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone" - Benedict XVI)
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To: Quix

Ping!


3 posted on 12/10/2009 9:49:59 AM PST by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone" - Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer
I gave up hope that life was out there along time ago.

We landed on the Moon and I was so hoping they we find beautiful Moon Maidens. Nothing but gray dust and rocks.
We land a camera on Mars, and I am praying we find beautiful green skin Orion Women. We get red dust and rocks.
By the time we do find something of value I will be long gone. And besides, even if we were to find something of value in my life time, it is too late for me. My wife would not let us keep one.

4 posted on 12/10/2009 9:55:00 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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5 posted on 12/10/2009 9:59:33 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him" - Job 13:15)
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Seems like it would be more accurate to say...’life and intelligence as we know it’. There could be lots of life and intelligence greater than we know about, couldn’t there?


6 posted on 12/10/2009 10:10:01 AM PST by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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Heck, we barely know what is at the bottom of our own oceans. Not so long ago, "scientists" were telling us nothing could live down there. Surprise!

Its quite possible there is intelligent life all around us, they just don't want to associate with retards.

7 posted on 12/10/2009 10:12:44 AM PST by Michael Barnes
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Having said that, it does seem likely that there’s got to be some form of life out there somewhere. After all, there are hundreds of billions of galaxies in the universe.

Yes, and trillions of planets. Therefore there must be one that's shaped just like Alfred E. Newman's head.

That is what we should be searching for.

10 posted on 12/10/2009 10:20:02 AM PST by Yardstick
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“What science does indeed know, with ever greater certainty, is the increasing improbability of extraterrestrial life”

Roadapples!!

Science knows diddildy squat about what is REALLY going on in the universe. Anyone who is so arrogant as to think we are the only intelligent life in the universe must be descendants of the “flat Earthers”. Earth may not have been visited by them but to say with certainty we are the only intelligent life in the universe falls into the “Gore” level of thought processes.


13 posted on 12/10/2009 10:25:23 AM PST by flash2368
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A very balanced view overall. There is one wrongly asserted "fact" here, though. The Andromeda Galaxy is not the closest galaxy to our own. It is merely the nearest "large" galaxy. There are at least 15 smaller "dwarf" galaxies that are closer, including the two very famous Magellanic Clouds. But the point I think the writer was making still holds: namely, even the closest dwarf galaxies to us are many tens of thousands of light-years away, and most of the ones closer than the Andromeda Galaxy are several hundred thousand light-years away. That's a long way away for any possible civilization to be bothered zeroing-in on a little blue rock orbiting a nondescript star orbiting in the suburbs of the Milky Way amid 500 billion other stars!
14 posted on 12/10/2009 10:26:19 AM PST by magisterium
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What science does indeed know, with ever greater certainty, is the increasing improbability of extraterrestrial life.

There are 2 theories on how life came about on this planet. Random chance and intelligent design. The same laws of nature that exists here also exists everywhere else in the universe. The same laws of nature that brought life to this planet would also bring life to other planets, although the probability is low if it is only by random chance.

On the other hand if there is intelligent design (God Exists) then the same reason he brought life to this planet would also motivate him to put life on other planets.

16 posted on 12/10/2009 12:34:00 PM PST by Alan2
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Live can survive in some pretty extreme conditions but they have to be relatively stable.

There are organism’s in the depths of the ocean that survive on methane expelled from volcanic vents.

But the temperatures are consistent.

If the moon didn’t control the wobble of the earth during it’s orbit, temperatures would fluctuate wildly.. From sub freezing to well above daily. Nothing on earth could survive that and likely nothing elsewhere could either.


17 posted on 12/10/2009 12:56:49 PM PST by TASMANIANRED
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“That God created another world than this one, and that in its time many other men and women existed and that consequently Adam was not the first man.” (Condemned Errors of Zanini de Solicia, Denzginer 717c)

That’s really the crux of the matter isn’t it? The hypostatic union of the human and divine natures of Christ in the Incarnation make it quite impossible for Him to have saved the space aliens in Adromeda in the same manner, since He did so to save us, not the Andromedans. So they would have to be perfect and without original sin.

The whole message of the Bible revolves around the centrality of the Earth in the care of God, the centrality of man on the Earth.


23 posted on 12/10/2009 6:42:54 PM PST by Heliand
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"Having said that, it does seem likely that there’s got to be some form of life out there somewhere. After all, there are hundreds of billions of galaxies in the universe. But the closest galaxy to ours is the Andromeda Galaxy. It’s 2.5 million light years from Earth..."

He's got same basic problems here. There's no reason to assume life has to be in a different galaxy. There are plenty of stars and planets right here in this one. So the rest of his point makes no sense.

27 posted on 12/10/2009 9:26:17 PM PST by mlo
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