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To: Kolokotronis
I'll tell you, Kosta, any of us, to this day, are very comfortable at the temple

Kolo, I hate to disagree with you, believe me, but the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. The Jews gather in synagogues where no offering is made. There is no Jewish temple anywhere.

Blessed Augustine taught, who knows: How many sheep there are without, how many wolves within!

Matthew 25 says otherwise. Not all are included. John doesn't think so either. You have to eat his body and drink his blood in order to have life everlasting, Kolo. And there is much more...

Truly I perceive God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears Him and does what is right is acceptable to Him"

He shows no partiality except for those who fear him, Kolo? That seems pretty partial to me, don't you think?

The purpose of such a restriction, and others, was to prevent conversion to Judaism, which was a real or imagined problem at the time."

Why? Was there any real tendency, even "danger" (in 692 AD!) for Christians to convert to a hated religion en masse? Somehow that seems a little hyperbolic, Kolo. Sorry.

Kosta, +Ignatius of Antioch, John's disciple, apparently didn't think so: "For though some would have deceived me according to the flesh, yet the Spirit, as being from God, is not deceived. For it [sic] knows both whence it comes and whither it goes."

Ignatius doesn't even quote form John. By all accounts he wasn't even aware John wrote anything. In fact he quotes only from Gospel according to Matthew, Luke, Acts, Romans, I Corinthians, Ephesians, Colossians, and I Thessalonians.

Anyway, the quote you use has nothing to do with John 3. But it does say something about Ignatius' concept of the triune God. He calls the Spirit an "it." Faith once delivered and believed everywhere and always?

69 posted on 12/27/2009 4:25:43 PM PST by kosta50 (Don't look up -- the truth is all around you.)
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To: kosta50

“There is no Jewish temple anywhere.”

OK; you undoubtedly understand the Greek/American and Jewish experiebce in America in the 1950s better than I do. No real point in continuing this discussion, is there now!

70 posted on 12/27/2009 4:34:24 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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