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3 Words That Drive "Progressive" Catholics Crazy (Catholic Caucus)
NC Register ^ | January 25, 2010 | Matthew Archbold

Posted on 01/25/2010 9:55:04 AM PST by NYer

I’ve been running a Catholic blog for a few years now and have inadvertently come across certain words and phrases that just drive self described “progressive” Catholics crazy. Tweeters have been doing this a while concerning politics but I thought we could have some fun here coming up with 3 word phrases that just unhinge “progressive” Catholics. Take a look at my suggestions and then I encourage you to add your own in the combox.

1) Traditional Anglican Communion
2) The Catechism states…
3) Abortion is murder
4) Communion on Tongue
5) Scott Hahn said…
6) “Caritas in Veritate”
7) Archbishop Raymond Burke
8) Latin Mass Society
9)Ineffable. Ineffable. Ineffable.
10)Three letters C. D. F.
11) For the many
12) An Apostolic Visitation
13) Hermeneutic of continuity
14) Mary Ann Glendon
15) Mandatory retirement age
Bonus: God Bless America

I’d love to hear your suggestions as well.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Humor; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholic; wasteofacaucusthread
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1 posted on 01/25/2010 9:55:04 AM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...
Among the suggested additions already posted on the site are:

Latin Gregorian Chant
Mass in Latin
Celebrate Ad Orientem
Abstinence outside of marriage
Communion on the tongue
Excommunication latae sententiae
catholic homeschool mom
Rome has spoken
no altar girls
Humanae Vitae says
intrinsically evil

2 posted on 01/25/2010 9:57:50 AM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer

Thanks for posting. I live to tweak progressive Catholics, so this is definitely true!


3 posted on 01/25/2010 9:58:33 AM PST by austinrepub
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To: NYer
"This is MY Body"
4 posted on 01/25/2010 10:01:11 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: NYer
"Full of Grace"
5 posted on 01/25/2010 10:02:19 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: NYer

Pope Benedict says


6 posted on 01/25/2010 10:03:14 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: NYer

Pope Benedict XVI


7 posted on 01/25/2010 10:03:14 AM PST by NeoCaveman (usually clean, often articulate, only a slight Cro-Magnon accent except when I want to have one)
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To: NeoCaveman

A TIE!


8 posted on 01/25/2010 10:03:42 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: NYer
Go to confession. Only alter boys. Priests give communion. Our Lenten Duty. The Holy Triduum. No Eucharistic ministers. No premarital sex. The Holy Family. k, I must stop. I am enjoying this so much it is becoming sinful.

Yours in Christ.

9 posted on 01/25/2010 10:03:46 AM PST by T bench ("God wills it." Urban II)
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To: NYer

Hi, new incoming Catholic here, still in training. Can someone point me to either a quick answer or a link explaining why we conservative Catholics are supposed to favor receiving the communion wafer on the tongue?


10 posted on 01/25/2010 10:04:42 AM PST by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: NYer

Natural family planning.


11 posted on 01/25/2010 10:05:01 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NYer

For us men


12 posted on 01/25/2010 10:06:58 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: NYer

Pope Pius [insert any number] (they cringe at all of them)


13 posted on 01/25/2010 10:07:09 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ottbmare

while our current Pope has a personal preference for communion on the tongue, he as also stated while being interviewed that he does not want to be “fussy about it”.


14 posted on 01/25/2010 10:07:55 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: NYer

heterodoxy is dissent


15 posted on 01/25/2010 10:08:37 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: NYer

Church discipline.


16 posted on 01/25/2010 10:09:35 AM PST by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: wagglebee

Definitely true! Father Greg spoke about Humanae Vitae, no artificial contraception, and NFP last Sunday. I think a few people were squirming in the pews, but I made sure to thank him for his homily after Mass to counteract any hate email or phone calls he might get on Monday!


17 posted on 01/25/2010 10:10:00 AM PST by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Arkansas resident of Hoosier upbringing--Yankee with a southern twang)
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To: ottbmare
Hi, new incoming Catholic here, still in training. Can someone point me to either a quick answer or a link explaining why we conservative Catholics are supposed to favor receiving the communion wafer on the tongue?from Pope prefers Communion on the tongue, Msgr. Marini says

"It could also be noted that the (Pope's) preference for such form of distribution which, without taking anything away from the other one, better highlights the truth of the real presence in the Eucharist, helps the devotion of the faithful, and introduces more easily to the sense of mystery. Aspects which, in our times, pastorally speaking, it is urgent to highlight and recover."

I myself would add that it makes desecration of the Holy Eucharist by the ignorant and evil more difficult.

18 posted on 01/25/2010 10:10:50 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: NYer

Read the Bible?


19 posted on 01/25/2010 10:15:52 AM PST by Reaganesque ("And thou shalt do it with all humility, trusting in me, reviling not against revilers.")
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To: NYer

I can do it in two: Papal infallibility


20 posted on 01/25/2010 10:16:15 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: NYer

Scripture says....


21 posted on 01/25/2010 10:20:00 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma

Yep, this has been openly ignored for decades.


22 posted on 01/25/2010 10:20:41 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: PzLdr

Your tagline tells it the way it is with me.


23 posted on 01/25/2010 10:21:02 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: frogjerk

In that same vein: “Immaculate Conception” and “Ever Virgin”.


24 posted on 01/25/2010 10:23:29 AM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: NYer
Read the Bible.

Read the Catechism.

Sacred Heart Devotion.

Pray the Rosary.

25 posted on 01/25/2010 10:24:13 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: frogjerk

great minds think alike


26 posted on 01/25/2010 10:25:49 AM PST by NeoCaveman (usually clean, often articulate, only a slight Cro-Magnon accent except when I want to have one)
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To: ottbmare; All

Welcome home!

The issue of Communion on the tongue is one of those issues that’s still debated. The short answer to your question is that it’s not a dogmatic issue and thus, you should not let anyone tell you you “must receive” on the tongue. I do it because I had a rather distressing experience one time when I received on the hand. (crumbs everywhere).

I don’t do it all the time though, and I’d say we should still have the option to receive in the hand. This is because, as some have pointed out with respct to the Precious Blood, there can be a risk of spreading colds or flus. I used to not believe this but have become convinced it can be a concern. So, if it’s a concern with the Blood, why not the Body? Specifically, it might subject the priest to infection.

I suppose one could argue “simply don’t receive that week” , and that’s a valid point. But having the option of receiving on the hand pretty much solves the potential problem without depriving one of the opportunity to receive our Lord. IMO

What I’d like to know is, why are altar girls bad? I realize that traditionally that hasn’t been done, and I both enjoy and respect the rich traditions the Church has been blessed with over the centuries. All traditions are not “Tradition” however (”Tradition” as in the Word of God), so if the only reason to oppose female altar servers is because “that’s always the way it’s been done”, this is not a sufficient reason IMO.

Ours is a faith that is reasonable. The Catholic Faith embraces all of humanity, nit just our spiritual nature but also our physical. While there are some aspects of our faith that will always remain a Mystery on Earth, this doesn’t mean we ignore the human need for “reason”. In this case it seems to me this need should not be ignored, and additional reasons other than an appeal to tradition (note the lower case “t”) should be given. IMO


27 posted on 01/25/2010 10:34:24 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: ottbmare
why we conservative Catholics are supposed to favor receiving the communion wafer on the tongue?

Supposed to? Sez Who? ;'}

I will offer my own personal opinion, FWIW.

I believe that "the communion wafer" is really the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ. I believe that He offered himself on the cross for my (yes "my" ... up there on the cross, 2000 years ago, in His infinite divine mind, he was thinking about me personally ... you too) salvation, redemption, and sanctification. He did so as a free gift, to me, which I in no way earned and of which I am completely unworthy. Receiving Holy Communion on the tongue is (IMHO) a sign of humility which I find to be appropriate. It is also a reminder that the "communion wafer" isn't just a piece of bread ... it's "different" and should be treated "differently".

That's just my thoughts ... take them for what they're worth.

28 posted on 01/25/2010 10:35:32 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

The GIRM doesn’t tell you what you can’t do, it tells you what you can.
If it does not say that you can hold hands, add words, add gestures, usurp gestures or make parts gender neutral then you cannot do it in the Holy Liturgy.

That includes the “Hands extended” (orans) position which is reserved for Priests and Deacons.

Just as it does not say that you cannot BBQ in the choir loft, nor shokel up the aisle, it’s not going to tell you not to hold hands. Only do what it says you can do.

(that used to make liberal heads explode on Catholic Answers Forums)


29 posted on 01/25/2010 10:35:52 AM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: NYer

Male priests only
Genuflect


30 posted on 01/25/2010 10:40:00 AM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: FourtySeven

>>What I’d like to know is, why are altar girls bad?<<

Because girls can’t become priests. Leaving girls out, makes the boys feel special.

We have 275 Altar Boys in our parish. We have seven seminarians. In the 6 years I’ve been here, five men have been ordained from our parish.

And understand, I have daughters. They sing in the Latin choir and the older one is a lector. They have a place in the liturgy.


31 posted on 01/25/2010 10:40:31 AM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: ottbmare

In the old rite priests hands were consecrated. I had a parish priest who served in a very traditional manner showing concern for his flock, Alphonse Memesheimer, who had a deformed thumb and he had to get special dispensation from Rome to become a priest.

I don’t know if todays current crop of Catholics even know this.
For comments on the differences in the celebration of Christmas checkout
http://www.theusmat.com/natldesk.htm


32 posted on 01/25/2010 10:43:09 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a province is to let be ruled by a professor ".. Frederick the Great")
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To: NYer
Our Heavenly Father
33 posted on 01/25/2010 10:54:32 AM PST by FatherofFive (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud that Massachusettes is part of the United States!)
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To: 353FMG

Do we have, “Go to Mass” and “Pray the Rosary” yet?


34 posted on 01/25/2010 11:01:16 AM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: NYer

Roma locuta est!


35 posted on 01/25/2010 11:13:20 AM PST by magisterium
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To: NYer

Follow the rubrics

A new encyclical

Not an option

The Holy Trinity

Pontifical Biblical Commission

Increased priestly vocations

New hermeneutics, bah!

Peter Kreeft says...

The Wanderer Press

Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz

Swimming the Tiber

Irrelevant Jadot bishops

No tie-dyed vestments

Approved Eucharistic prayers

Improved English translation

Catholicism is back!


36 posted on 01/25/2010 11:29:49 AM PST by magisterium
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To: magisterium

Those are good ones!


37 posted on 01/25/2010 11:48:57 AM PST by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: NYer

“priestesses” (they prefer “women priests”, even though it doesn’t make sense)

“abortifacient”

“Mass” (it’s simply another community celebration to them)

“Authority of the Vatican”

“re-marriage after divorce is adultery”

“sin”

Freegards, thanks for all the pings


38 posted on 01/25/2010 11:58:37 AM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: NYer

Obedience.


39 posted on 01/25/2010 11:58:51 AM PST by Faraday
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To: ottbmare
why we conservative Catholics are supposed to favor receiving the communion wafer on the tongue?

Lots of us grew up with Communion on the tongue -- and kneeling! As I understand it, Communion in the hand was introduced in a rather underhanded way -- several bishops (of the "liberal" or "progressive" stripe) introduced it without permission, then told Rome it was a "popular groundswell" and what could they do??? So Rome made it an option. But it was born in an unsavoury neighborhood.

When it was first introduced, people used to take the Host in their hands, step to the side for a moment, and then reverently put it in their mouths. Most of them I see now look more like someone walking along the street eating potato chips! I don't think they mean any irreverence, just gotta keep traffic moving!

40 posted on 01/25/2010 11:59:43 AM PST by maryz
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To: NYer

non sum dignus


41 posted on 01/25/2010 12:02:50 PM PST by pbear8 (Climate change is a fraud like Obama)
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To: NYer
5) Scott Hahn said… .....rofl If they knew what that meant they wouldn't be progressive!
42 posted on 01/25/2010 12:13:06 PM PST by badpacifist (Life is short and hard... Bad decisions make life is shorter and harder)
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To: NYer
Mahony is retiring!

Niederauer rebukes Pelosi!

Tobin rebukes Kennedy!

Burke rebukes everyone!

Deny CINOs communion!!

SSPX excommunications lifted!

Reform the Reform!

Lavender-free seminaries!

No priestly pooftahs!!

Boycott Notre Dame!!

Fire John Jenkins!

43 posted on 01/25/2010 12:13:25 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow
Mahony is retiring!

Reminding me: pray for the health of the pope. May he live to be a hundred , certainly long enough to pray over the graves of the V2 heretics.

44 posted on 01/25/2010 12:26:45 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: NYer
"Big T Tradition"
"Confession and Penance"
"pray the rosary"
45 posted on 01/25/2010 1:12:54 PM PST by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain...)
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To: magisterium

You Win!!!!


46 posted on 01/25/2010 1:13:45 PM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: NYer

Homeschooling


47 posted on 01/25/2010 1:15:13 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: marshmallow

OH, MY! Awesome list! Has my vote for post of the day!


48 posted on 01/25/2010 1:17:14 PM PST by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain...)
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To: NYer

Iesus Hominum Salvator or IHS monogram for Jesus


49 posted on 01/25/2010 1:17:30 PM PST by Downyoceanhon
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To: NYer

Another one - Right to Life


50 posted on 01/25/2010 2:03:13 PM PST by Downyoceanhon
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